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Old 01-13-2010, 10:53 AM
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Re: Pics taken with your Hero

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yeah initially we were thinking it was low light or other factors but we've seen pics of low light and great lighting that still have lines
Where are the pics of "Great lighting" that still have lines? I haven't seen any.

This also reminds me of a "tip" that was posted a few months ago. Someone recommended setting the camera to ISO 800 instead of auto to make the camera faster. A lot of people chimed in saying it was a great idea. Well, the downside of such a high ISO on a camera phone is excessive noise, which you are seeing as "lines."
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I took these in November '09... with my Hero
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I took these in November '09... with my Hero
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Re: Pics taken with your Hero

nice pics. i need that shirt that says trouble.lol
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Re:Pics taken with your Hero

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lol yeah ice. its crazy. and iguanas are falling out of trees lmao im so serious.


Haha stop lying... That made me almost blow water out of my nose!
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Re: Pics taken with your Hero

I think you can get the TROUBLE shirt for like $8 at Babies R Us, but it may not fit you Athletic....
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Re: Pics taken with your Hero

Ah, here's an interesting thread about it:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...&highlight=iso

"I did some looking around and I followed the steps using the 800 ISO along with some brightness modifications and so forth. It seems however when I take pictures, I notice this static rain effect."

Another user responded "I have it too in low light."

I think that's where all the "static rain" can be traced to - ISO 800, whether it's in auto mode in relatively low light or the user manually set the camera to ISO 800.

The lesson here is not to force your camera into ISO 800 unless you're OK with excessive noise, and excessive noise is a by-product of taking pictures in low light.

I should also note that of the four forums I visit, this is the only one where I have seen anyone complain about noise in images, and it's only about 3 people, one of which explicitly said he forced the camera to ISO 800, another of which initially said he gets it in low light and now says it's all the time.

Of course, that same user also said that every Hero has the problem and that he hasn't heard a single Hero owner say that his camera is unaffected by the "static" that happens even "in bright light," despite the fact that in the above-linked thread another user says right there that his works great in good lighting.


My entire reason for posting this is to combat misinformation. This is how rumors and urban legends start, and I hate that sort of stuff. I appreciate truth and reality. If there's an actual issue with the camera always generating noise, I'd honestly love to hear about it - but everything I'm seeing on this "issue" points to the fact that, yes, the camera is noisy at ISO 800. But that's completely to be expected. There are enough real issues with this phone that we don't need to spend time complaining about non-issues.

Even the iPhone has this exact same "issue".

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Re: Pics taken with your Hero

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Ah, here's an interesting thread about it:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...&highlight=iso

"I did some looking around and I followed the steps using the 800 ISO along with some brightness modifications and so forth. It seems however when I take pictures, I notice this static rain effect."

Another user responded "I have it too in low light."

I think that's where all the "static rain" can be traced to - ISO 800, whether it's in auto mode in relatively low light or the user manually set the camera to ISO 800.

The lesson here is not to force your camera into ISO 800 unless you're OK with excessive noise, and excessive noise is a by-product of taking pictures in low light.

I should also note that of the four forums I visit, this is the only one where I have seen anyone complain about noise in images, and it's only about 3 people, one of which explicitly said he forced the camera to ISO 800, another of which initially said he gets it in low light and now says it's all the time.

Of course, that same user also said that every Hero has the problem and that he hasn't heard a single Hero owner say that his camera is unaffected by the "static" that happens even "in bright light," despite the fact that in the above-linked thread another user says right there that his works great in good lighting.


My entire reason for posting this is to combat misinformation. This is how rumors and urban legends start, and I hate that sort of stuff. I appreciate truth and reality. If there's an actual issue with the camera always generating noise, I'd honestly love to hear about it - but everything I'm seeing on this "issue" points to the fact that, yes, the camera is noisy at ISO 800. But that's completely to be expected. There are enough real issues with this phone that we don't need to spend time complaining about non-issues.

Even the iPhone has this exact same "issue".
Ok. Some people can't be reasoned with...

Yes, I have forced my cam to ISO 800, if I don't I get blurry crap pictures.

That was me. I notice it in low light, not as much in bright lighting. Let me explain this clearly - I am going to take pictures inside. This "inside" I speak of has plenty of light for my other camera, and all other phones I have had before. I think you may be missing that this is the SAME inside.

So, you are saying I either get static problems or I get blurry pictures? Great. I'm not OK with either.

Since you said this is the only thread, I had a go at Google, Here's one, Oh, This reviewer was unhappy with his blurry pics, this guy took some pics, but they came out blurry too, oh and his one indoors had static. And yes I did put my cam on ISO8 800, but I do not want blurry pics! That is what fixed my problem with blurry pics.

So if I notice something in low light, then realize that it happens all the time, I am not allowed to bring that information forward? I can only say that it happens in low light because that's what I initially said? So if you said you really liked the touch pro you had to stick with that? I imagine that wouldn't be the case, since most people grew to hate their touch pro. I realized that I get it in some pics, the light matters not. I will not address that again.

I have showed a pic where my other camera wouldn't have noise and mine did. So... I fail to see your point. No one has said they don't have the problem. Since someone else started that first thread it seems like I may not be the only one though, it also had replies where people agreed. I asked a question before about the branding because I want one that works and if its only me then I will be switching phones. That's why I said everyone has it.

What misinformation? You can clearly see the static in my photo. Urban legends are fun, but I am not trying to pass off a fake bigfoot or something, I am showing people pics. In fact I didn't even say anything about it except that it needs to be addressed. So the reality is that my perception is off? I see the static, am I the only one?! So again, I can either have blurry pics or noisy ones? That is a problem my friend. What time are we wasting? I'm glad this issue doesn't affect you, but I feel like I have an issue, I want good pics.

Not everyone who buys this phone understands ISO, I know I don't. I also didn't use white balance until someone showed me how much it would help. This phone should take good pics. It has a better camera than the iPhone, I can't understand why that phone was brought up, thats a different cam, phone, and OS completely.
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