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Old 02-01-2010, 03:58 PM
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Interesting and annoying?? So when you install a ton of apps on your computer and try watching a movie while burning a cd and running a slide show of your family it doesnt get slow?? These phones are like small computers, if you bog it down with a ton of new content and dont clear out some space every now and then, yeah, it will get slow.
Haha, another ******* from knoxville I moved from there to murfreesboro cause utk cut down on their technology classes in order to budget more sports. But I kinda miss the dragon and cherahola

I'm pretty sure installing a bunch of programs on a computer doesn't do jack until they are all running simultaneously. (or until it starts affecting hard drive space) The android doesn't seem to want to close any of my apps and release their memory.

Everything i've read about this OS says that apps sitting in the background are supposed to release memory, but mine just take up memory until I close them with a task manager. The browser alone takes up 20mb and i routinely need quick access to it and my tabs, but it kills the os. Take the iphone or the blackberry for example. I can leave plenty of things open on those (backgrounder installed on iphone of course) and have absolutely no problem doing other complex tasks on the phone because the background stuff takes an incredibly small footprint. Unlike how the hero will lag 5 seconds after pressing the "call button" with just gtalk, handcent, browser, and email open in the background doing what they should be doing. I think all we're asking for is to be able to use the thing properly.
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Old 02-01-2010, 05:02 PM
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Haha, another ******* from knoxville I moved from there to murfreesboro cause utk cut down on their technology classes in order to budget more sports. But I kinda miss the dragon and cherahola

I'm pretty sure installing a bunch of programs on a computer doesn't do jack until they are all running simultaneously. (or until it starts affecting hard drive space) The android doesn't seem to want to close any of my apps and release their memory.

Everything i've read about this OS says that apps sitting in the background are supposed to release memory, but mine just take up memory until I close them with a task manager. The browser alone takes up 20mb and i routinely need quick access to it and my tabs, but it kills the os. Take the iphone or the blackberry for example. I can leave plenty of things open on those (backgrounder installed on iphone of course) and have absolutely no problem doing other complex tasks on the phone because the background stuff takes an incredibly small footprint. Unlike how the hero will lag 5 seconds after pressing the "call button" with just gtalk, handcent, browser, and email open in the background doing what they should be doing. I think all we're asking for is to be able to use the thing properly.
Im sorry my fellow *******, i did mention that running those programs did slow down the PC. Sorry I wasnt more clear. My only point was stating that these phones are mini pc's and well using multiple apps can cause a bit of sluggishness. I guess I just dont like someone downing a phone that they purchased and didnt do thorough review or testing themselves. I came from a diamond of a little over a year and when I got my Hero, it was like a breath of fresh air. No more flashing constantly in hopes of finally reaching light speed, no more task killing, no more constant lock ups. Wasnt trying to be a *******, I apologize to the OP if I came accross that way.

Oh and BTW, stay in Murfreesboro.
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Old 02-01-2010, 05:23 PM
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My only point was stating that these phones are mini pc's and well using multiple apps can cause a bit of sluggishness. I guess I just dont like someone downing a phone that they purchased and didnt do thorough review or testing themselves. I came from a diamond of a little over a year and when I got my Hero, it was like a breath of fresh air. No more flashing constantly in hopes of finally reaching light speed, no more task killing, no more constant lock ups. Wasnt trying to be a *******, I apologize to the OP if I came accross that way.

Oh and BTW, stay in Murfreesboro.
Coming from a mogul i more than understand the breath of fresh air. I'm just saying that i agree with the op that this phone simply shouldn't have the speed problems it does when running maybe 5 or 6 constant apps in the background (or 10, 12, or 15 based on the memory handling, but though i say that it's not immediately relevant.) Yeah a pc slows down if you run a lot of stuff, a phone does too.

But I should be able to have 100 apps installed no problem, be running gtalk, htc sense, handcent messaging, phone, gmail, contacts, voicemail, and a task manager without having only 30mb of memory free and the phone crawling when trying to search through contacts and make or end a phone call. These are basics. Throw an opening of the browser, amazon, or market in there and the thing becomes nearly as annoying as the mogul.

I'm also on fresh 1.1 and it's just silly that If I want to browse the web, i have to force kill everything to get decent input response. (I tend to measure my lag by keyboard and browser response)
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Coming from a mogul i more than understand the breath of fresh air. I'm just saying that i agree with the op that this phone simply shouldn't have the speed problems it does when running maybe 5 or 6 constant apps in the background (or 10, 12, or 15 based on the memory handling, but though i say that it's not immediately relevant.) Yeah a pc slows down if you run a lot of stuff, a phone does too.

But I should be able to have 100 apps installed no problem, be running gtalk, htc sense, handcent messaging, phone, gmail, contacts, voicemail, and a task manager without having only 30mb of memory free and the phone crawling when trying to search through contacts and make or end a phone call. These are basics. Throw an opening of the browser, amazon, or market in there and the thing becomes nearly as annoying as the mogul.

I'm also on fresh 1.1 and it's just silly that If I want to browse the web, i have to force kill everything to get decent input response. (I tend to measure my lag by keyboard and browser response)
I don't have any of these problems. I am running gumbo kernel. I don't use a task killer but I do back out of apps and I don't have any lag.

I have 90 apps and no lag. I run Sense, Handcent, Gmail, and Tapatalk almost all the time without ever backing out. I only Hold home to switch between them. The keyboard lag is no different with all those running as it is without them.

I have never had a problem with input. Maybe it is an app you have installed. I have a problem that Sprint thinks I don't need 3g in my area, but that is a different issue all together.

EDIT: Almost forgot, force killing apps in linux actually slows the phone down because it has to reload the memory again. If android works the way a box does anyway. I have read up and since I got rid of my Task killer, put setcpu on ondemand, and backed out of apps that I'm done with, I have no problems whatsoever.
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I don't have any of these problems. I am running gumbo kernel. I don't use a task killer but I do back out of apps and I don't have any lag.

I have 90 apps and no lag. I run Sense, Handcent, Gmail, and Tapatalk almost all the time without ever backing out. I only Hold home to switch between them. The keyboard lag is no different with all those running as it is without them.

I have never had a problem with input. Maybe it is an app you have installed. I have a problem that Sprint thinks I don't need 3g in my area, but that is a different issue all together.

EDIT: Almost forgot, force killing apps in linux actually slows the phone down because it has to reload the memory again. If android works the way a box does anyway. I have read up and since I got rid of my Task killer, put setcpu on ondemand, and backed out of apps that I'm done with, I have no problems whatsoever.
Well said. Hey, you wouldnt happen to have an .apk for tapatalk before it was paid app do you? I wiped and of course partitioned my SD so I lost it.

EDIT: NVM Still appears to be free.

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