dan@sprint.com response I got

[gTen]

Originally Posted by Cicatrize

Although I don't mind paying the extra $10, I do wish that it was only applicable to those in 4G markets. It seems a little unfair to me to pay a premium for using the same amount of data that I do now.

However...honestly, I will probably be using the Evo to surf the web a lot more than I do with my TP. The CPU DOES affect the speed the page loads after it's downloaded, and shit...it's 4.3"...and Android seems to load stuff faster in the stock browser faster than Opera Mobile does too.

The $10 most likely is due to the 199$ price tag and not 4G, what htye saying about data is just an excuse..my guess is once you authenticate into the server it dont matter if you are on wimax or evdo..so there would be no way of preventing you from accessing the 4G. The biggest problem is if they see this slide they make actually make the 4G addon a permanent thing and in future make even another 4g+ which is 20$ addon...

[ubigred]

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

My thing is it's not just $10 for me. I have a 4 line family plan (all smartphones, and everyone looking forward to the Evo) so it will be $40 extra for me.

And I'm not even in a 4G area, so I won't see those faster speeds. I'll be using the exact same amount of data that I currently use on my Touch Pro 2. So why should my bill go up by a whopping $40 per month? Especially after the CEO said it was cheaper to provide a gig over 4G that a gig over 3G, and then said it would not cost any extra.

Of course I'm pissed about it. They get my hopes up, have me salivating over it for several months, and then BOOM- sorry we lied, but it will cost you $40 per month extra, even though we don't even have 4G in your area yet.

It blows my mind that there are actually people saying I shouldn't be upset by this. My dad used to always tell me, "A fool and his money will soon part ways." As willing as people are to bend over on this forum, I have to think I'm swimming in a pond of fools.

Way to set a precedent though. If Sprint is successful with this, you can bet they be bending you over every chance they get.

Another thing- they should kill that $10 fee. To make up for it they could also kill Sprint Navigation, Sprint TV, Nascar, NFL Mobile, and Sprint Radio. And if anyone wants to use those, they can pay $10 extra.

Atta boy! You tell em!!!

[akayareal]

Originally Posted by travisr528

I am really tired of hearing about the $10 charge. How else are they going to pay for building up the 4G network. Sprint takes a 18% profit margin, compared to Att and Verizons 40 sum percent. Think about the difference between PS3's and Xbox. I have a PS3 but Xbox's features and support blow it out the water, Why paid service vs. free service (Xbox wins). I don't like the charges but I understand why, and will pay for it. Everybody that wants to complain, pick another phone, the $10 a month charge problem will be solved. You just wont have an EVO.

Now this I can vouch for. I have both the 360 and the PS3 and I can say if I bought the PS3 for online gaming I would have returned it. I've only had it for a little over a month now and are constantly kicked off the PS network. The 360 the other hand has only had one online problem since I had it (since it came out) and that was game related (COD 4).

Now when talking about it only depends on network speed and not processor speed is not true. Its a combination. I have a 3 mouth old Macbook Pro with a 2.53 dual core processor and a 2 1/2 yr old Gateway without a dual core processor and believe me the processor plays a huge part in download speeds and page loads. A perfect example is both of them running skype on the same network doing a video call, the Mac running Windows 7 will run with no chop in speech and very little video lag if any at all. The Gateway on the other had may have a 3-7 sec video freeze, broken record effect when something being said gets stuck on repeat for a few secs before it clears up. And they both also have 4gb of ram installed and brand new hard drives that are only weeks apart.

[akayareal]

If Sprint wants to justify this $10 charge, I say they can keep the ED plans and also have mandatory data add ons but also let you choose if you want unlimited text, Sprint Navi, Sprint tv, any mobile, nights and weekends at 7, and lower minute plans, yes lower.

As many have said, not everybody needs everything that they ED plans offer. I personally dont need unlimited text, Navi, tv nights and weekends at 7. I have worked to get the perfect plan for me and have it now with my 300min unlimited incoming plan with 1000 text, pick 5, no navi, limited tv and its always worked for me.

Once you give people the freedom the reduce their bill to add the mandatory $10 charge, they can swallow it better. I never had a sero plan and never had use for it because it didnt meet my needs even though it was cheaper than the plan I have now back then. I wasnt and still are not a big texter and if I need to I can use my email or Google voice, never need navi, tv (have slingbox so i watch real tv).

I can understand the arguments of those who say they like to pick the amount of text they would like and the little add ons they really dont need.

Sprint can still keep the ED plans for those who want all of that and limited mins but also allow us to pick our poison.

Just my thoughts on the matter.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by ajac

Thank you for contacting us through Dan@Sprint.com. From reviewing your email, I understand you have expressed your concerns regarding the $10 Premium Data fee. This fee is so that the HTC EVO users can experience the data quality that EVO provides. HTC EVO users will typically consume more data, and the Premium Data fee assures they have the bandwidth to do it. The HTC EVO 4G works using both 3G and 4G technologies. I understand your concern regarding this fee put in place. Your feedback is greatly appreciated and will be forwarded to the appropriate team for further review

so in many words yes 10 dollars is for 4g. My touch pro 2 consumes a crap load of data no 10 dollar fee'' evo comes out and 10 dollar fee why? 4g baby 4g.. guess 4g does cost more.

Its a load of crap. so are we allowed to surpass the soft cap with no worries because we pay more?....lol




CW

[Mswezey]

Originally Posted by akayareal

Now when talking about it only depends on network speed and not processor speed is not true. Its a combination. I have a 3 mouth old Macbook Pro with a 2.53 dual core processor and a 2 1/2 yr old Gateway without a dual core processor and believe me the processor plays a huge part in download speeds and page loads. A perfect example is both of them running skype on the same network doing a video call, the Mac running Windows 7 will run with no chop in speech and very little video lag if any at all. The Gateway on the other had may have a 3-7 sec video freeze, broken record effect when something being said gets stuck on repeat for a few secs before it clears up. And they both also have 4gb of ram installed and brand new hard drives that are only weeks apart.

Processor speed as nothing to do with how fast data comes in or goes out through the network.

Now the processor does effect how it processes the data coming in and going out.

Now with that comes page load times that you are viewing on your desktop, which by todays standards any dual core should load up the page fast after it's received the data from the network. What comes in effect is how efficient your browser uses your CPU to do this. Future browsers (HTML5) are going to have the CPU and GPU working together to process pages which should further the speed in which page loads AFTER it receives all the data from the network.

you have a 2 1/2 year old gateway but you didn't state what your running on it? and you have to take in effect what quality your webcam/microphone is and what bit rate you are sending and receiving through skype.

So to say that your example was the perfect example is false.

But I'm not trying to step on your toes, start a fight, or anything. Just informing you and everyone else. just saying

[champ052005]

Yeah, I'm gonna be paying $30 per month more. I'm not even in a 4g area. It is senseless Sprint decided to do this. Honestly, I would not be as mad if I lived in a 4g area, but since I don't......what the hell Sprint?

But in the end, will I get it? Yea. Too awesome to pass up.

[JZ*]

The way I look at it is, I will just either have one less Star Bucks a month or one less trip through the drive through...there's the $10 (or a few less trips if I want the BB access )...no offense to anyone, really, but I PERSONALLY don't understand all the bitchin...I just WANT THE DANG PHONE!

[gTen]

Originally Posted by Mswezey

Processor speed as nothing to do with how fast data comes in or goes out through the network.

Actually it does a bit...you can actually improve latency by offloading the CRC checks on the packets. This has been proven even in gaming network cards with built in processors helped improve latency. It also can allow for more threads to run thus maxing out the connection better.

[boredandtattooed]

+1 i wouldnt have a problem either at all really if 4G was available to me.. even if it was in my state, but not my area, atleast i knew it was coming soon... they did mention grand rapids(about 2 1/2 hrs away) in a release just like 2 weeks ago.. but that was the first time id seen it.. pennslyvania Just got their recently and that was in the proposed releases in 2009 for the upcoming 2010..

so who knows.. it could be a year or longer easily for some b4 4G is anywhere near them..

but sprint did finally ink a mobile deal with walmart just this week .. who they were trying to convince to set up Wimax towers on top of all their stores.. savings sprint TONS of money.. this tiny mobile deal could be the forefront of the WiMax tower deal going through and certainly speeding up the prpcess of expanding 4G rapidly