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Old 04-22-2009, 05:12 PM
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Re: Need help with getting Sprint Diamond on Verizon

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...yes, I realize *228 doesn't work. My question was if I would have any better luck with Verizon if I was activating an Alltel branded phone..
I was able to active my Sprint phone via 228,3 a couple months ago, and I may need to in the future, so this topic interested me. I've always wondered what the deal is with the Alltel Diamonds being put on the official Verizon network now that they're close to being one-in-the-same. I always had the idea (which seemed like a good one) to try it but could never find any credible info on its probable success. Please update us if you try it.

I did have a conversation with vz TS during my process (when 228,3 failed for me) about this exact topic and they said they "the transition would take some time. Probably ~6 months." (Transition being merging the networks/phone database, etc.) This was after the acquisition, in lat Feb, early Mar I think. So that would mean they might be ready to go in a month or so, or anytime now if they were overestimating, as they probably were.
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Old 04-22-2009, 05:28 PM
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Re: Need help with getting Sprint Diamond on Verizon

Hmm. I kinda just want this conversion to be over.
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Old 04-22-2009, 07:04 PM
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Re: Need help with getting Sprint Diamond on Verizon

No one ever said you had to read this thread, MrObvious...

To answer you, mclaser, as of recently, they are not adding ESNs from other carriers other than phones on their "pre-approved" list..period...no exceptions.

I spoke today with a supervisor after I climbed the chain up to a level 3 tech support. He basically told me there is no way he could do it, and he confirmed that the *228/3 was a loophole that apparently was not intended, etc, etc. He said the only way to do it is to do the DMD add form, which he said would for sure be denied. He said they do activate Sprint/Alltel phones, but only the ones on their "pre-approved" list of models, which I gleaned from him was a very, very short list. He also fed me a bunch of bull about how they are moving toward an "open policy" but it just takes time. I told him, yeah, you guys announced that a year ago. He said maybe in the future it can be done, but not now. He said he would love to help me out it just can't be done. He was very kind, and instead of getting upset, I'm (trying) to be understanding. I asked him about getting an Alltel phone, and he said I'm going to have the same trouble. Only Alltel customers have potential to have their phone ported, but in a lot of cases they are going to need to get new hardware.

My eventual realization thinking:
If you really think about it, there is nothing anywhere that says they need/should activate the Sprint phone. I mean really...it's a Sprint phone, so why should I even think I would be able to use it? It's not meant to be used on Verizon, even if it would work (which it would). And just because some people have been able to get it on there doesn't automatically give me a right to have that priviledge just b/c they screwed up and had a loophole open for a while. (This is what I've been telling myself to help me feel better )


So..what am I going to do? (unless someone posts with a brilliant idea besides cloning an ESN):
I've decided I'm either switching to AT&T (get the unlocked Diamond..and have more ability for changing phones in the future) or I'm just going to bite the bullet and get the VZW Diamond (which I have to crank out about $200 more for). Or...I could just keep my i760...
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:50 AM
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Re: Need help with getting Sprint Diamond on Verizon

No I'm talking about the Verizon buying Alltel deal, not your situation. Sheesh.
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Re: Need help with getting Sprint Diamond on Verizon

Oh..ha. My bad.
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Re: Need help with getting Sprint Diamond on Verizon

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Re: Need help with getting Sprint Diamond on Verizon

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This forum has been very helpful information for getting the Sprint Diamond on Verizon, but for some reason I'm stuck at this point...

I've done a lot of reading on this topic, so I'm just going to put down what I've done so far and hopefully someone can help me out

First... for some reason I'm not able to access this thread
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20090
which is linked to on a few other threads so it must be pretty important. It says "you do not have permission to access this page". So if that has all my answers...It's unfortunate I can't view it

...anyways here's what I've done (mind you spent about 4 hours)

- Tried a ton of things to get the MSL....eventually tried the registry log hack, and was able to get it.

- Loaded the most recent (from Corolada) Verizon PRL using ##PRL#

- Changed the service code to '000000' using QPST (which took almost an hour to troubleshoot because I didn't realize I needed to install the modem driver to get it to detect)

So, that's basically where I'm at. I've got the roaming cone and "Perferred System" on the left. I dial *228 option 3, computer tells me they can't activate it. It then tries to transfer me to a rep, but eventually I get disconnected. I've read posts where this is all people have done and it worked...so I'm not sure where I'm hung up at. Any help would be great. Thanks!
funny thing it tells me i dont have permisson to view the page.... when i look at the above link you posted.
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Re: Need help with getting Sprint Diamond on Verizon

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Yes, Vzw is finally releasing their touch pro this month. Yahoo and joy abound! But if you don't want a memory crippled phone dealing with vzw locking restrictions and etc (ie keyboard), please take a moment to read through this tutorial. And no, there isn't anything illegal to my knowledge in this tutorial.

Getting your sprint phone on a vzw network

What you will need

you will needStep One
You can perform this step on your phone. Install Baffles MSL Grabber and write your MSL. My suggestion is to open up a text document and type it there because it will be necessary later on.

Step Two
Unlock your device using the Raphael team elite unlocker for sprint. I used the second link (I believe .37).

Step Three
Install the htc modem drivers on your computer (that's kind of important)

Step Four
Install QPST on your computer

Step Five
If you completed all the preliminary steps, you should be ready to fully begin. At this point, you can perform the steps on the vzw leaked rom or on your sprint touch pro rom. If you are performing this on the sprint touch pro rom, you will need DCD carriers cab. On the vzw rom, however, I have noted that MMS does work on the phone (and you know how much we love our mms). I think this is solely up to you whether or not you use either rom for operation. Remember though, if you are doing this on a sprint rom

DMR mode for sprint is
##3424#

Whereas DMR for vzw is
##3424 and press the send key (send key is below the home hardware button - you can also use the send key on the phone)

Also EPST for sprint is
##778#

whereas this for a vzw phone is

##778 and hit the send key

So how you will work is solely up to you

What you would need to do next is place your phone in DMR mode. Connect your phone to your computer via usb mode. If everything worked okay, the popup for drivers shouldn't come up at all. Start QPST config and select ports

Step Six
Now, in QPST, your phone should come up. If it doesn't, right click on my computer and select properties. Click hardware and then device manager. Click view and device by connection. Click on your USB controllers and don't stop until you see HTC. Notice the com port that the HTC device is on (mine on two different computers, running xp or vista was COM5, yours may be different). Take a note of this and return to QPST config. Now, click add COM port, and add the port you saw in the device manager. QPST will pick up the phone.

Step Seven
Now, click on services and go to services programming. Select your phone and begin. This will ask for your MSL. Type it in and continue. Click read from phone. You may have to retype that MSL code, if not good. but on some cases, it asked me for my MSL code twice (unfortunately) so I typed it in twice. The point of it all is this - to get the data from your phone to QPST

Step Eight - changing your MSL
Now that you are in QPST Service programming, you can change your MSL unlock code. Please change it to 000000. That is vzw's MSL code, and it is so easy to remember for later on. Once this is done, click write to phone. I caution, do not close out of QPST service programming until this is done! You will know when this is done if you can see that the buttons read from phone, write to phone, are not grayed out.

Step Nine (optional)
Okay so at this point, I installed the leaked vzw rom but it is not necessary to perform this step at all. Its just something I did to make things a lot easier on me. Individual results can vary though.

Step Ten
Now, its time to change our MIP settings. Go into EPST and select your MIP profile. On your phone you can edit the information to match the following:

MIP Profile
Number of profiles: 6
Active user profile index: 0
MIP_MODE: Mobile IP Prefered
MIP Reg Retries: 2
MIP Reg Retry: 1750 ms
MIP Pre-Reg Timeout: 0
Mobile Node-HA: Enable
Send A Reg: Disable
Dormant Handoff Opt: Enable

Step Eleven
Now in EPST, go to MIP default profile and edit the information on your phone to match these settings:

MIP Default Profile
Enable Profile: Enable
NAI: mynumber@vzw3g.com (MDN@vzw3g.com)
DUN NAI: (if entry is there enter MDN@vzw3g.com so you can tether without a tethering package or MDN@dun.vzw3g.com if you want paid tethering))
MN HA SPI Set: Enable
MN HA SPI Value: 12C
MN AAA SPI Set: Enable
MN AAA SPI Value: 0 (requires a "2" here for 6800 and 6900)
Reverse Tunneling: Enable
Home Address: 0.0.0.0
HA Shared Secret: (erase whatever entry is here leave blank)
AAA Shared Secret: (erase whatever entry is here leave blank)
Primary HA Address: 255.255.255.255
Secondary HA Address: 255.255.255.255
DMU Pub Key: 10
MN Authenticator: 0

It is very important to erase the HA and AAA shared keys. We will return back to them momentarily

Step Eleven
Complete changes from EPST and the device will soft reset. Now place your phone in diag mode. Connect your phone to your computer and enter QPST EFS explorer. Unzip the DMU keys and notice you will see the file on your hard drive. In EFS explorer, you will see the DMU folder. Right click on the folder and you will be able to insert a DMU key via the file explorer on your computer. Select the DMU key file and press okay. The information will be written to the phone.

Step Twelve
Drag your PRL file you downloaded from your computer to your cell phone memory. Dial ##PRL and hit send if you are on vzw rom, if not ##PRL# if you are still on the sprint rom. This will lead to a dialog box on your phone that will allow you to locate the PRL file you loaded onto your phone. Make sure the PRL is in a directory where you can access it when you browse for it on your phone.

Step Thirteen
Place your phone back in diag mode. Connect to QPST service programming and go to the MIP default profile (AAA shared secret and HA shared secret is where you need to go in Service programming). If there is anything in those two areas, delete it, click enter hex values and leave it blank. Write to phone.

Step Fourteen
If you are still on a sprint phone, install DCD vzw carrier cab. If not, please dial *228. The menu has changed, so you will have to hear EVERY option before selecting. You will enter option number 3. Go through the prompts on vzw's end and the phone will program and soft reset.

Step Fifteen
Once your phone has soft reset, you're almost done! You should have text messaging and voice, but data not yet. So to get data, you have some options. If you can't get data to authenticate, follow step thirteen. Then force the phone into 1x mode (I don't care how you do it - what I did was go to a mall basement) and connect to the internet in 1x mode. EvDO won't work, but 1x does work. What is going to happen is the HA and AAA shared keys will be written. If all goes well, you should have your sprint touch pro phone 99.9% working on vzw network.

Now, the roaming triangle will stay there, I'm still working on how to remove that. But it will work everyday. Enjoy your new phone =)

Special thanks to Nex, Baffles, drellisdee, and KilgoreBA for the help. I haven't started my hand at a vzw rom, but I will eventually...

Any questions?

all original tutorial above was found here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44663


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Old 04-24-2009, 10:23 AM
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Re: Need help with getting Sprint Diamond on Verizon

Um, if you had read this thread you would know that step number 14 will not work.

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Re: Need help with getting Sprint Diamond on Verizon

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Um, if you had read this thread you would know that step number 14 will not work.

yeah i just re posted it from smartphone junkie because he wanted the information. It would seem verizon has closed that loop hole. so much for an open network. i wonder if vzw will make me pull my sprint diamond and use only a vzw phone?
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