overclocking worth it?

[nuguy]

In response to Rufus:

"Overclocking is irrelevant if you look at it like this, because you are really clocking your individual chip to where it is comfortable running at, not what it's peers are comfortable at."

I find running at 520 to be faster than running at 415 - therefore not irrelevant.. You should have no fear of running at 520 (in case that's why you said it was irrelevant).

The CrazyChicken is right!

[schettj]

Regarding autostep - any clue to making it run stable?

I'm running 3.5, and it just will not come out of standby reliably set to 520 & 520 on wakeup. It switches to 520 fine on soft reset, and seems to be faster @ 520 (but does suck battery faster too ) it just hangs if I hit power off and then wait a bit, power on.

Unit fires up ok, seems to work for a second or two, then just hangs. Not ideal.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by nuguy

In response to Rufus:

"Overclocking is irrelevant if you look at it like this, because you are really clocking your individual chip to where it is comfortable running at, not what it's peers are comfortable at."

I find running at 520 to be faster than running at 415 - therefore not irrelevant.. You should have no fear of running at 520 (in case that's why you said it was irrelevant).

The CrazyChicken is right!

I think we are saying the same thing here. So, I decided to "Wikipedia" this and I have mis-spoken a tiny bit.

What I was talking about is the definition of overclocking is:

"Overclocking is the process of forcing a computer component to run at a higher clock rate than it was designed for

We have no idea what this chip was designed for, so you are merely "clocking" the chip at what you feel is a comfortable speed. Thus, there is nothing "over" about it.

Now - Where I misspoke was, wikipedia continues the definition to include the following:

or was designated by the manufacturer."

This should not be here!!!! I think that someone edited the Wikipedia entry to make me wrong! But in any case, I did mis-speak a little about overclocking.

I still think that overclocking and PPC should not be used in the same sentence, but that is just my personal opinion, since wikipedia proved me wrong.

[Big D5]

I have not read anything about auto scaling being a problem and I have not looked for the post so that being said, my experience with XCPUScalar is that when forced to the higher 520 I use more battery, now keep in mind I am using my 6700 all the time it almost never sits more than 10 or 15 minutes and I am turning it on, I think this has to do with the XCPUScalar auto scaling faster than the internal device scalar when the device is on. Dose that make seance? Also I have had issues with my 6700 freezing up more often when locked at 520, I never use 624 because of the screen noise and constant lockups on my device setup. In as far as weather scaling is the correct term or not, what I have read leans my opinion towards what Rufis is saying, so IMHO find the speed where you get the best results for you and go with it.

[schettj]

I popped xcpuscaler on (the trial version) and d-ham that puppy sucks power - looks to draw 200ma - 220ma *all the time the unit is "on" - minimum. There was a nice detailed post over at pdaphonehome that covered a lot more use cases, I can dig it up if anyone cares, but I can say for sure I see the same thing.

Using autostep (which still lunches mine if I power off and back on with it running) I only see a higher draw when something is being done (since it's ramping up to 520mhz vs 416) but draw drops back to normal resting draw between taps. Still was able to burn 10% of an OEM battery in 15 minutes of surfing. Fast surfing for sure, but very bad for the battery.

I would guess you're using 25-30% more ma... or cutting your battery life by the same amount, using autostep - just wish it didn't lock my phone comming out of standby

With xcpuscaler, you're using 100% more of the normal ma draw or worse (ouch!) or cutting battery life in half, or thereabouts. I don't *think* you can get twice as much done in half the time just because its faster.

That said, with either of these, while surfing, the delay between "locating..." and "opening..." in PIE is really not there at all. Even faster then on AC when the cpu speedstep is off. It just goes *pop*. I think the native speedstep is a bit too agressive in stepping down, so it gets stuck with a 100mhz speed when it's trying to do actual work.

[PhilR8]

I run my 6700 at 624MHz all day, every day. With the Seidio 3200 mAh extended battery, I get about two days of battery life w/ moderate use, or one full day with heavy use (BT tethering, surfing the web, playing bubble breaker for hours on end).

No problems so far. XCPUScalar is a great program that I would recommend to anyone, as long as you have the extended battery.

[ryncppr]

I also have XPUscaler installed and have been for the last three days not running it unless needed. I have seen an amazing increase in battery life with it off.

I guess like stated earlier, unless you really need the extra power it isn't worth the drain on the battery.

I am only using an OEM battery.

[saturn2069a]

Heh, I tried xcpuscalar in autoscale mode for a few days to check it out, and noticed that pretty much *anything* I did would cause it to jump all the way to the highest setting (624) - it would never sit at just 520 or 416.

I just kinda figured that couldn't be good for the battery life.. so I instead set it for just 520 and it's been running great.

[Gervy]

Where can I check to see what I'm actually running at? Do i need to download a 3rd party monitor tool?

I'm using the performance applet in Helmi's WM6 kitchen.