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bkmass 02-20-2007 09:21 PM

Question.. I am a bit slow, thats a given.. but I have flashed the different roms that have been posted to this site the last 2 weeks or so.. I have downloaded this one, or at least thought I did.. Where in the hell is the .exe file? Am I missing something? all I get it the Readthis.txt & nk.nbf files

verizonguy 02-20-2007 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bkmass
Question.. I am a bit slow, thats a given.. but I have flashed the different roms that have been posted to this site the last 2 weeks or so.. I have downloaded this one, or at least thought I did.. Where in the hell is the .exe file? Am I missing something? all I get it the Readthis.txt & nk.nbf files

It's beta so no installer is included to kind of "weed" out the newer less experienced users.

You can download the needed tools on this site to flash your rom if you'd like to be adventurous :) Or you can just wait until Konceptz (spelling?) updates my newest beta into an installer, or until I have an official release.

colonel 02-20-2007 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by verizonguy

It was essentially fixed with the beta 2.0 rom. It was just buggy. The remaining bugs were squished by trial and error with intellipad modules.

Um, what Intellipad modules? Where did you get new ones from if they are new? These should be fairly simple questions to answer.

bkmass 02-20-2007 09:40 PM

I guess the search is on! I know under my name it says pen & paper user, but I'm actually more of a cave wall drawer still.. but the more I mess around with this hopefully the less questions I'll have & the more I can contribute..

isamu49 02-20-2007 09:41 PM

Seriously, if you guys are so impatient to figure out what the fix was, why not dump both images and start differencing files? Why the expectation that people should just hand you the result of their hard work at your whim? He's getting around to it.

colonel 02-20-2007 09:45 PM

You are absolutey right. I never gave anyone any help with any of this shit

isamu49 02-20-2007 09:52 PM

Don't take it personally, there's alot of badgering between the two threads. Also, part of philanthropy is giving without the expectation of getting anything in return. You seem like that's more your character because of what you've been putting forth, but still, I don't think that entitles you to make demands of people.

bkmass 02-20-2007 09:59 PM

1 last question Verizonguy.. well hopefully my last.. Are u having problems with MMS with this ROM? I found an installer & tried to send a MMS and I click on the MMS button but nothing comes up, it just blinks

Perasite 02-20-2007 10:15 PM

Wow, I hate to see it come to this. Colonel, I for one have found your help invaluable. Please re-consider your new sig. line.

I feel for Verizonguy in a sense, too. I just finished my personal 3.3, squeezing in a bunch of registered programs that I couldn't put in the one I released. Unfortunately I wasn't forward-thinking enough to prepare OEM's for the programs I setup, nor did I document how I got them in there and working (several re-flashes.) That being the case, I can see not having all the details on how the fix was created. I wish they were available but understand that they aren't.

Please Colonel, give it time to see if we can get these fixes, I know we all appreciate all the help you have given to each of us recently.

nobrakes 02-20-2007 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bkmass
1 last question Verizonguy.. well hopefully my last.. Are u having problems with MMS with this ROM? I found an installer & tried to send a MMS and I click on the MMS button but nothing comes up, it just blinks

I think he used the custom mms in the kitchen oem folder. I've used that in my rom, it will send but i couldn't recieved. I just use the regular verizon mms cab and it worked fine on a clean rom. But I am having problem with vzwguy's rom because i can't remove the custom mms

mcq3000 02-20-2007 11:19 PM

i dont understand the situation verizon guy. You obviously have a kitchen version of your version of the 3.5 rom as you are updating the rom with new betas and you can only do this with kitchen files as you are compiling new versions of the rom. If you cannot remember the exact changes you made to get smardialing working please can you just post the kitchen version of the rom. You can use the ppcgeeks ftp and upload it there, colonel and others have posted 3.5 kitchen versions of their roms, colonel did this just for me when I asked last week for a kitchen of 3.3 rom (thanks for that Colonel)

verizonguy, help us out please, the beta 2.1 you have, please let us get the kitchen version of the rom instead of the compiled one. PLEASE.

technole 02-20-2007 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nobrakes
Quote:

Originally Posted by bkmass
1 last question Verizonguy.. well hopefully my last.. Are u having problems with MMS with this ROM? I found an installer & tried to send a MMS and I click on the MMS button but nothing comes up, it just blinks

I think he used the custom mms in the kitchen oem folder. I've used that in my rom, it will send but i couldn't recieved. I just use the regular verizon mms cab and it worked fine on a clean rom. But I am having problem with vzwguy's rom because i can't remove the custom mms

Yep, MMS is hosed in this newer 2.1 rom even if i install the VZW one from extrom. Also looks like whatever vzwguy did, he definitely backed out the crossbow dialer skin and reverted to smartdialer 2.2 from 2.5.

Sogarth 02-21-2007 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mcq3000
i dont understand the situation verizon guy. You obviously have a kitchen version of your version of the 3.5 rom as you are updating the rom with new betas and you can only do this with kitchen files as you are compiling new versions of the rom.

Uh... from everything I've read, that was true at one point, but is no longer. This is my read of the situation:
  1. Had a kitchen. Made changes.
  2. Used the kitchen. Made a ROM. Uploaded it to FTP.
  3. Deleted the kitchen. Oops.
  4. Downloaded the ROM from FTP.
  5. Made further changes as per the earlier way of changing ROMs
So I'm pretty sure he's (I'm guessing he, based on "verizonguy") being honest, much to everybody's dismay (at not being able to look at the changes).

ImCoKeMaN 02-21-2007 12:13 AM

As far as i can tell here are the different files:
contactsdmenu.dll
ContactsPicker.dll
default.hv
DPadMenu.dll
phcanhtc.dll
phcanrc.dll
smartdialing.dll
user.hv

The default hive appears to have minor differences mostly the key# entries that have to do with the ## EPST features. The user.hv seems to have the no changes once converted to txt. I'm more interested in getting the smartdialer working at this point though so if anyone else can get those files from this rom to fix smartdialing with a kitchen OEM let us know. I've tried copying them to my device manually, but this did not work so far.

Just thought i'd give it a shot at getting the reconstruction started

technole 02-21-2007 12:24 AM

Tried fiddling with the MMS registry entries and re-installing MMS. No dice.

Somehow I noticed an MMS1 folder in the Inbox for some reason, and I can't get the SMS inbox to come back. ahh, not good. I'll keep looking.

mcq3000 02-21-2007 12:25 AM

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Made further changes as per the earlier way of changing ROMs
Segarth, cooking your own rom always requires kitchen files. Hell the link to that tutorial you posted requires a 3.3 Kitchen rom. There is no way else currently to cook your own rom and make mods on the rom level without kitchen files. Hence if he is making rom mods he definately has kitchen files. I mean beta 2.1 is an updated rom file not some cab or regedit to apply to the old rom file he had earlier. If verizonguy is making new roms he definately has the kitchen files.

I can understand completely not remembering what patches or files you edited, hell I fell victim to this last week cooking my own 3.5 rom. But he can at least post the kitchen version of the rom

Sogarth 02-21-2007 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mcq3000
Segarth, cooking your own rom always requires kitchen files. Hell the link to that tutorial you posted requires a 3.3 Kitchen rom. There is no way else currently to cook your own rom and make mods on the rom level without kitchen files.

Wow. I'm a total idiot - I posted the wrong link. You're right - the link I posted was, in fact, to a kitchen thread. :oops:

Okay. The proper link to Wideawake's method for modifying ROMs (which was used for the custom AKU 2.x ROMs) is this. That thread provides a set of tools to take apart an existing .nbf and put it back together with your own changes. If you read back to what verizonguy said, it required re-downloading a previously uploaded ROM. In addition, some of the really painful things that he (assumption again) did in the other thread where he first mentioned having fixed some of the issues refers to needing to use rgucomp to rebuild the registry hives, something that isn't necessary in the kitchen method.

I apologize for having misled you, but I do take verizonguy at face value, and believe that he genuinely doesn't have the kitchen he used to build his original AKU 3.5 ROM any longer.

mcq3000 02-21-2007 12:39 AM

well well, i was wrong on that then. My apologies. That way of deconstructing the nbf, I dont suppose there is any way to take verizonguys nbf, deconstruct it and throw in the kitchen oem files I want that I downloaded of the ppcgeeks ftp site as readint the instructions you posted it shows nothing concerning adding kitchen oem files

Sogarth 02-21-2007 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mcq3000
That way of deconstructing the nbf, I dont suppose there is any way to take verizonguys nbf, deconstruct it and throw in the kitchen oem files I want that I downloaded of the ppcgeeks ftp site as readint the instructions you posted it shows nothing concerning adding kitchen oem files

Actually, I think that ImCoKeMaN over there might have already started on that with the list of files that changed. :lol:

But, unfortunately, they're completely different ways of working, so it's pretty painful trying to move from the hand-crafted ROM way to the ROM kitchen... The registry entries are probably going to be the most painful to figure out, since it would be matter of diffing large text files. :x

technole 02-21-2007 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nobrakes
Quote:

Originally Posted by bkmass
1 last question Verizonguy.. well hopefully my last.. Are u having problems with MMS with this ROM? I found an installer & tried to send a MMS and I click on the MMS button but nothing comes up, it just blinks

I think he used the custom mms in the kitchen oem folder. I've used that in my rom, it will send but i couldn't recieved. I just use the regular verizon mms cab and it worked fine on a clean rom. But I am having problem with vzwguy's rom because i can't remove the custom mms

I think I figured it out how to get the VZW MMS installer to work on top of that custom mms *ahem* crap that you can't uninstall automatically.

I deleted the MMS1 key from HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Svc\Inbox

then installed the VZW MMS, soft reboot. You'll notice the MMS inbox disappears. Go back in that key and change the new key that was created from MMS to MMS1 and everything works again. I was able to get MMS instantly from a Sprint user.

Although I would like it if someone can tell me how do you edit that menu when you hit send in p&v. the 'old' MMS still shows, but its really FLIX now, and the new MMS (pix) shows which is the right one.

nobrakes 02-21-2007 02:45 AM

technole, that worked thanx. but theres another problem. when in phone app, the softkey that used to be assigned to keypad is now contacts and there's no button for a keypad. so if u r on a call that requires u to punch in numbers, u cant

verizonguy 02-21-2007 04:34 AM

I just spent the last 14 hours completely building a brand new kitchen from helmi and imcokeman's previous work just to read the last several pages of you ungrateful people bitching and moaning.

I just uploaded the kitchen and will leave it there, but you know what? For those of you that couldn't give me the couple of days I asked for to intelligently relay how the fixes were implemented, kiss my ass.

For the rest of you, good luck. I'm done.

isamu49 02-21-2007 04:46 AM

Adding existing kitchen oem's to pre-existing roms or making modifications really isn't all that difficult and there may even be a tool or two for doing just such a thing.

evans 02-21-2007 09:16 AM

Thanks verizonguy ...
 
I understand about accidental file deletes - has happened to me as well.

I also understand how real life can slow things down - I appreciate you rebuilding and uploading the kitchen!

...tom

cdecker196 02-21-2007 09:30 AM

So far so good on beta 2.1. Where did you upload the kitchen to? I don't see it on the ftp.

C

imkk 02-21-2007 10:25 AM

Hats off to the impatient, ungrateful, inconsiderate, selfish morons that ruined it for the rest of us.....I raise my cheeks with Verizonguy for you to smooch!

Losing the XDA dev site, the colonel and now Vguy....it's a sad, sad day.....

technole 02-21-2007 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nobrakes
technole, that worked thanx. but theres another problem. when in phone app, the softkey that used to be assigned to keypad is now contacts and there's no button for a keypad. so if u r on a call that requires u to punch in numbers, u cant

i'll look, is it part of intellipad that controls that button? I see a few things, but not very familar.

effortless 02-21-2007 07:24 PM

What is the "Modem Link" link for under programs... it doesn't have an icon and doesn't do anything when I click it?

technole 02-21-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by effortless
What is the "Modem Link" link for under programs... it doesn't have an icon and doesn't do anything when I click it?

good question. i just deleted that sucker since that shortcut meant nothing.


Still looking at the dialpad contacts thing...ahh.

schettj 02-21-2007 08:04 PM

Looks like a bogon in the ModemLink OEM - the Modem Link exe works (for USB and IRDA) but you need to make yourself a new shortcut. I should fix that OEM.

nobrakes 02-21-2007 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by schettj
Looks like a bogon in the ModemLink OEM - the Modem Link exe works (for USB and IRDA) but you need to make yourself a new shortcut. I should fix that OEM.

Do you think the softkey problem in the phone apps has something to do with a reg setting?

effortless 02-21-2007 08:37 PM

Once the dialup contacts problem is sorted out, this is going to be the perfect rom.

I wonder if you could release a rom without zip, total commander, tcpmp, magic button, new menu for WM5, and voice speed dial and possibly release a kitchen so we can add to it as we like.

I know individual requests like this can be annoying/overwhelming, but I'm not asking for specific programs, just a bare minimilists version of the rom.

Thanks for all your help and work!

darksine 02-21-2007 09:19 PM

I think he already released the kitchen and uploaded it to the ftp site. It shouldn't be too hard to remove the things you don't want from the OEM folder, add what you want and compile a rom.

mdecker79 02-21-2007 10:02 PM

I loaded this up on my Sprint 6700 and it seems to be working nice but I cannot add any new speed dials.. I was able to delete the number 2 one but I could not add a new one. Anyone else with the same?

willysp 02-22-2007 12:24 AM

Verizonguy,

Good work - I did some additional customizations to your kitchen and built a ROM. Sprint ## codes work from dialpad, and Smartdialer works (dialer issues are, as already reported, inability to use left softkey to bring up keypad while in call, and can't add speed dials). Getting very close!

Thanks

technole 02-22-2007 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nobrakes
Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj
Looks like a bogon in the ModemLink OEM - the Modem Link exe works (for USB and IRDA) but you need to make yourself a new shortcut. I should fix that OEM.

Do you think the softkey problem in the phone apps has something to do with a reg setting?

Probably, but I have not been able to locate the right keys that affect this operation.

colonel 02-22-2007 02:24 AM

As far as I have found, it does not. It would have been nice if Verizonguy would have explained himself more so we knew where he got some files from.

technole 02-22-2007 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by colonel
As far as I have found, it does not. It would have been nice if Verizonguy would have explained himself more so we knew where he got some files from.

Yeah I think this 2.2 version of Smartdialer dll is the culprit, he had downgraded from 2.5 in his last rom that it didn't work. Either way, I think the best bet is to get 2.5 working. But kind of like to know where these dlls came from too.

Since I can't use this rom in production because of this issue, I might as well give another 3.5 rom a try. Now I do plan on messing with this kitchen.

bryce10s 02-22-2007 03:02 AM

How do you set up the mms application? I am unable to send or receive any mms's

Thanks

fitbryan 02-22-2007 04:16 PM

Im having a SMS problem:

ok Im having a problem with text messagine. The bubble on today screen and the messages in the text list all show the cell # but NO contact info associated with it (i.e. no name of the person)!. When I open the respective message within the text app the message has the person's name. Whats going on?!

Any ideas? TIA


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