Re: 6.1 Battery Issue
 

I must be the only ok person here.

I am getting through an entire day of heavy use on my phone. Sadly I don't have the numbers to back it up. The battery is about the same as it has always been lasts about a whole day.

Re: 6.1 Battery Issue
 

sounds like you have pushmail on.

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is windows 6.1 available for the mogul, i am confused...Sorry, i'm a noob to this.

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yes, search here or google it.

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I'm in an area that does not have EVDO so I changed my Mode of Operation to 1x only in the phone settings. I also set my Slot Cycle Index to 1. I connect to my exchange server at least once per hour and more when I'm working with mail. I used the internet for about an hour or two today. It's now been 14 hours on the stock battery and I just received the low battery warning.

My battery only lasted about half as long before I changed to 1x only.

Also, I always turn off the screen when I use the phone.

Addition: acbPower has been running for the past 20 minutes. I talked on the phone (with the screen off) for 10 minutes and my average power usage is 154. My idle usage is 33. I had a spike of 425 when connecting to the exchange server.

Re: 6.1 Battery Issue
 

I was running C&S WM5 for several months. I bought a 2600mAh extended battery because the stock battery was not holding a charge. As the months p***** the battery was slowing loosing its power. Eventually it got to the point where the end of the day I would have only 20% charge. Occasionally I would run completely out but that was rare. I use Bluetooth synced to a Plantronics 510 headset, its always synced. I also have a Bluetooth GPS receiver and a Bluetooth connection to my laptop. The GPS and the laptop is only used occasionally. I do not WIFI. I use RlToday, WeatherPanel and Calendar+ on my Today screen. I noticed HTC Home locked up my phone too much. I do not use Microsoft Push. My outlook is configured to grab IMAP mail every 15 minutes. My weatherpanel is configured to update every 30 minutes.

I upgraded to WM6.1 a couple of weeks ago. The phone would only last 7/8 of a day. The error message about the battery being low would pop up usually about the time I would head home for the day. I decided to try the Advanced Configuration battery saving tweaks. They did seam to improve the battery life. The battery would usually last until I got home at night and threw it on the charger. Maybe 1 or 2 days a week I would get the battery warning. I decided to buy another 2600mAh battery I have been running for only a day now but it seemed to have about 60% charge when I got home. It still seams to use more power then the WM5 but I think the new battery will work. I have noticed in both WM5 and WM6.1 that if I am not getting a signal the phone will get hot. I would imagine its going in and out of coverage and the phone is boosting its signal requiring more power.

I am interested in where this post goes. I am willing to give any tweaks a try. Although the new "fat" battery might have solved my problem.

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I would love the 2200 battery but the bulge just kills the slim factor.

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Ok, here's a good battery saving tip but ONLY for those who DONT sync with an EXCHANGE SERVER:

1. Cradle 6700 and connect to A/S
2. Stop Sync
3. Nav to Tools -> Add Server Source
4. Add some giberish to all the fields
5. Click on Schedule
6. Set both options to 'manual' (you will now have to hit the 'sync' button whenever u want to sync
7. Go back into Server Source and delete the bogus server

After doing this I noticed a very slight increase in battery life. I'm guessing it's because Activesync doesn't start randomly anymore when the phone isn't cradled...let me know if it works for yal

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Hey sager...

I think you must be imagining better battery life. There is no way that solution makes sense. When cradled, the phone is charging. Any activity is of zero cost since it draws power off the charger and not the battery.

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lol -ya .....dreaming

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Interesting, would an app like the HTC home program cause drain ? This is driving me nuts, last update I did to my post was maybe getting about an hour and 1/2 tops out of my phone. I'm getting ready to 1. Dump the 6700 and get a new machine with 6.1 in it 2. go back to the way it was, carry my ipaq HX4700 and a reg cell phone.

I've tried the extended battery but, it's the bulk of the phone that I can't stand, the phone is big enough.

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What i would do is do a reflash with a stock rom and use the phone for 1 day. If you have no drain then its nitma hardware issue.

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The HTC Home plugin was a big problem for me with connection issues, battery life because of connection issues, and screen space it takes up. I would recommend disabling the plugin for a couple of days to see what it does for battery life.

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I'm sure this is a dumb question but, by disabling it in WM, do I just uncheck it from showing on the home page and do a soft reset ? Or should I just reflash with out it ?

Just wanted to be clear to make sure it will have some effect...

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Just uncheck the check box in the today settings.

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That didn't have much effect tonight at least. When I did it I was at 70% battery life, had a call that was about 25 min, and then the dreaded beep, battery low....

There must be a trick to this, or some other setting that makes it run longer. At one point (if you look at my prev post on this thread), I had my phone running for 26 hours, about 4 hour talk time and in that time, I used the internet for about 45min to an hour. On the same battery I using now with 6.1 from the Kitchen. I just wish I could find that magic combo again....

Tell me this, does the phone dialer theme have any effect on battery ? On the HTC home page (I was using that when I got the long life), addding the color icons vs. the standard one have any effect ?

These are about the only other things off the top of my head that I have been keeping in each of my rebuilds (they just make the OS look better)....

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it is NOT the HTC home plugin. My build has that removed entirely. I am about to roll back to stock and see what the norm is for a phone call. I think the mid 300s for mA draw might not be right. if thats it, then we can report it to the devs.

Re: 6.1 Battery Issue
 

just rolled back to stock, installed acbPowerMeter... no noticeable difference for call drainage but it seemed a bit lower for idle time...

now i am installing 1.41 radio to see if there is an improvement there. i do recall that i rolled back from 1.41 to 1.27 before I installed 6.1

will report results.

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nope. radio 1.41 didnt seem to help with the readings. i am at a loss. i have no clue where the drainage is coming from.

Re: 6.1 Battery Issue
 

edufur,

You are back to a stock build and still seeing (basically) the same power draw as with 6.1, right? Has the battery life changed? How about charge time?

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i only kept it stock long enough to take readings. i am back to 6.1 again. this time, with radio 1.41

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i'm tellin u guys it's activesync...i am running good battery life now simply after changing settings to manual sync

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My new 2600mAh battery is doing very well. At the end of the day I still have 70%. Although its only been 3 days.

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yeah, but now your Touch looks like a camel.

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First thing I did, is make sure activesync is set to manual sync. Nope that did not help here. It might help you but, in my case, it did not do anything.

Again, today, same problem, used the phone for about an hour, then on my last call, the dreaded beep (battery low).

Just wondering on the magic combo, just would like someone who is getting 3+ hours talk time and 26+ hours of standby with 6.1 to post their config file, so I can try it, to see if there is something that I missed that might help here....

This is me right now :violent2:

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david, have you disabled obex?

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Yes, and bluetooth is turned off.....(have not used it yet, worried about more battery life loss)

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See my post #9 in the following thread. I am still using this config now that the kitchen is corrected, but I do make the change noted in post #17. At one time, I thought my battery life was bad and it was associated with HTC Home, but I was not correct. I had a PIE page open that was driving the data connection constantly active. HTC Home is on my Today screen now (I still haven't re-enabled the weather tab though...)

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=21337

Other info that might be important:
Manual sync w/ mailtoweb
Battery - BTR6700 # DC070508SVS (must have set on the shelf for a while cause I just bought it)
Radio - 1.27.0
Bootloader - 1.00
Hardware Version - 0041
Blue light keyboard w/Sprint yellow logo

Re: 6.1 Battery Issue
 

david,

post ur selections, ur separately installed apps, u startup services and today plugins...sometimes the only way to figure out the problem is the hard way...

also do u use the htc performance app? also what radio version are u using and what's your carrier? Do you have any apps that connect while on standby to update (today plugins, rss readers, etc), how many bars on average do u get and are in an 1x or evdo area?

Have you enabled these battery tweaks that can be found here? http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...65&postcount=2

Also if u want to try this and see if it works try, I personally didn't notice much of a battery difference but add this registry key under

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services

DefaultNpwNoServer : REG_DWORD and set it to 1. Explanation can be found on this page
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms861416.aspx

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wow! Cant believe you have to do all those things to get your ppc to live. I must have gotten lucky with my Touch cuz even without all those tweaks my ppc lasts about all day. Maybe consider a bew battery.

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I really dont see why you think that it is active sync. Dont you realize that syncing only occurs on the cradle? Since you are on the cradle, there is ZERO battery cost to sync. If your argument is that it takes longer to charge because of steady syncing, I can buy that (maybe), but people here are not concerned with charge time... they are concerned with how fast the battery goes from 100% to 20% while OFF the cradle. Active sync does not play a role in that at all.

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you misunderstood my original tip...activesync starts randomly even when the phone is not in the cradle this sometimes causes the phone to slow down and may even cause a battery drain. Here read this post and you'll see what i'm referring to http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...46&postcount=2 :

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I upgraded using Helmi_c Sprint right before I left for the Left Coast. That was a bad mistake as I have been running good on a 6 month old version of WM5 but can't remember what I was using. I thought I saved it but I couldn't find it. Battery life was great with with old version but Helmi_c's Sprint version couldn't make it a whole day. I do sync to a 2007 exchange server.

This is what I used: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=7671

While I was in the airport I tried to put my old version back on it but I couldn't find it so I put something really old (~ 9 months) so I could get through the day.


Once I got settled in at home I played with the kitchen but I was doing something wrong as I have never used it before and I couldn't get it to work. I liked the features of WM6 but I couldn't have the battery life the way it was. I then flashed Rob Mayer's version and it works great. No battery issues at all. I still sync to the 2007 exchange server and the use is the exact same as I had with Helmi_c's.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9841

One thing I did notice while sitting in the airport on my first leg was the phone kept turning on every couple minutes. The night before I left I had to bowl and my phone was in my pocket the whole night. When I left for home it was completely drained with no use at all. I was hoping it was just a fluke as I didn't have time to reflash but the next couple days was the exact same.

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I might be on to something here. I added some things to my config file and now my battery life is doing really good. So far. used the phone for about an hour to an hour and 1/2 (kind of slow call weekend), and about 35-50 min of internet. The phone has been on for almost 30 hours and it's still sitting at 70% battery life left(standard battery). I still have not charged it. I'll let it go till the battery life dies.

I did save my config file, so if it's good, I will post it here... I do want to test it for another day or 2 to know for sure....

For people wondering...
On Verizon
Radio version: 1.43

Re: 6.1 Battery Issue
 

do post ur tweaks and list..
been following ur posts and appreciate ur hard work trying to crack this battery issue..
went back to wm6 and here s what acb meter says.
250 mah via bluetooth while in a call signal strength pretty good..4 bars.. only 1x mode..
idle 38mah.
data with pie=300-350mah..
with net front browser=400-450mah
talk time i m not sure but guess shd be around aan hour.
battery = li polymer 1500mah
acording to calculations
40mah* 35hrs=1400mah..so standby shd be 35 hours?
correct me if this isnt the way to calculate..
talk time shd be 250*6= 6 hours ideally. say 5 if u start talk right after 100 pc charge...
and if u standby for 24 hours.. then shd be 2 hours of talk time (250*2 + 40*24).
approximatly..
but from what i figure and have been reading it shdnt work like this actually.. it should do more than this.. right?
radio is 1.41 and running only 1x on reliance india.. with a ruim card.( i hope this doesnt have anything to do with the battery usage)
reverted back to wm6 from wm6.1 coz of this battery issue and the active syncing issue.. so these tests are from wm6

do lemme know ur maths..

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OK, if anyone else wants to test this config, I attached it to this post. My Boot loader version is 1.04, my radio is 1.43. I am on Verizon wireless. This is 6.1 from the most updated Kitchen.

At the time of this post, my phone has been on for about 36 hours, and if you see my post above, this is an estimated usage of my phone, after installing a fresh charged standard battery....I just removed the battery and put it back in to confirm the battery meter, it's showing 70% left.

about an hour and 1/2 actual talk time.
and about 45 min of internet usage (out of my unlimited connection EVO area).
No bluetooth or wi-fi was used in this test(wi-fi was used for about 2 min, to setup my local wi-fi router key).

After the flash, I went into advanced configuation, when into the power saving area, and enabled everything. Also disabled OBEX. Backlight: set brightness on batter to 2 up from off, and 30 second time out. Setup exchange activesync after that, I went into activesync and change sync to manual, and check sync when I hit send and recive. Then I swapped the battery for a fresh charged one....

All I ask, if you try this, please post your results....

So far, from :violent2: to :headbang:

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What things did you add?

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OK... I cooked a 6.1 rom on sunday and used it successfully all week until I installed something on my SD card (Garmin Que) that I had uninstalled from my main memory, then uninstalled from SD, then back to main and caused no end of hassles ("can't find /storage card/garmin/garmin que.exe" even when the program ran!)... no battery problems.

Last night I Hard Reset to get rid of my errors, left in the cradle overnight and this morning I went through 2 batteries in 3 hours!!!! No calls, about 6 sms and a bit of trip yahtzee.
Yesterday the same (first) battery was used all day (bt, gps software, games) and was about 60% at 9pm!
I didn't change any progs or anything. I'm very confused.
:drunken::???:

Two questions, where can I find my active sync settings to make it manual as I run task manager every now and then to see what might be sucking things and half the time it's running and I'm nowhere near my PCs (I build roads!)?

Also, where could I find a cab for the battery meter (can't find one on google and don't want to recook my excellent rom that worked 4 days!)?

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Go here, scroll to post #5.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...e+sync+battery

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i followed the instructions for stopping active sync... and it is a waste. active sync still fires. and it isnt the problem... i know this for a fact. obviously we are seeing varying extremes of the issue because it sounds like my battery depletion is not as bad as some others.