Understanding what WP7 is and the true pros/cons.

[orangekid]

Originally Posted by puff

+1



actually, an Intel MacBook can run Windows and do anything your standard Windows box can do

(although i'll give ya they cost too much $$$)

yeah I'd rather buy a fast PC for a 4th of the price and just partition it to dual boot windows/snow leopard, (if I needed osx for any reason)

[puff]

Originally Posted by orangekid

yeah I'd rather buy a fast PC for a 4th of the price and just partition it to dual boot windows/snow leopard, (if I needed osx for any reason)

you have a valid point but OSX won't run on just any hardware, so unless you specifically buy hardware that is compatible with OSX chances are something won't work quite right -or- will require some tweaking...

For instance my Dell Mini 10v can run OSX perfectly

[orangekid]

Originally Posted by puff

you have a valid point but OSX won't run on just any hardware, so unless you specifically buy hardware that is compatible with OSX chances are something won't work quite right -or- will require some tweaking...

For instance my Dell Mini 10v can run OSX perfectly

true enough, of course if I was going to buy a new rig with the intention of partitioning for snow leopard, I'd make sure to include all the necessary hardware components I needed. And save enough money to buy an IPHONE 4G!!

[puff]

Originally Posted by orangekid

true enough, of course if I was going to buy a new rig with the intention of partitioning for snow leopard, I'd make sure to include all the necessary hardware components I needed. And save enough money to buy an IPHONE 4G!!

and don't forget the WP7 (prolly save enough for both)

[orangekid]

Originally Posted by puff

and don't forget the WP7 (prolly save enough for both)

roger that!

[joe50000]

Personally my biggest problem with WP7 is that it should have come out years ago. It's been over 3 years since the iPhone debuted, and in typical MS fashion, they got complacent and just let their market die. They expected other companies like HTC, Samsung, and SPB make up for all the deficiencies of their OS: too functional, not enough form, not easy to use, etc etc. They were last to the party when it came to having an app market despite having the oldest OS. This sorta reminds me of the problems behind Windows 7 itself. It should have come out years ago, and were it not for Macs being overpriced, and the continued support of WinXP, they would have lost control of the PC market.

[itster]

Originally Posted by joe50000

Personally my biggest problem with WP7 is that it should have come out years ago. It's been over 3 years since the iPhone debuted, and in typical MS fashion, they got complacent and just let their market die. They expected other companies like HTC, Samsung, and SPB make up for all the deficiencies of their OS: too functional, not enough form, not easy to use, etc etc. They were last to the party when it came to having an app market despite having the oldest OS. This sorta reminds me of the problems behind Windows 7 itself. It should have come out years ago, and were it not for Macs being overpriced, and the continued support of WinXP, they would have lost control of the PC market.

let me explain windows mobile to you if you haven't gotten the idea all these years. It's not a gameboy or any other type of toy you may be thinking of, it's a business device and the OS was designed to compete with Palm OS and symbian smartphones. MS got lazy because it was their market and no one cant touch it. Then Apple came along with the Ipod with a built in phone idea that many thought would not take off, but it did.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with windows mobile at it's current state. If your phone crashes it's because you screw around with the OS by downloading beta's all day/week/month/year. The OS is very fast if you dont have junk like Sense running on top of it that slow it down drastically. I know it's not cute like the cute buttons on android and iphone devices, but it's a business device and the main screen on windows mobile is meant to be direct and to the point. that's something microsoft has been very successful at for many years.

Those of you that think MS takes the market back, you better think again because MS went into the smartphone business with palm holding almost 90% of the market and took it over quickly.

also windows phone 7 devices do have multi-tasking abilities but not refined. look at this example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5G-Jj33XQI

although i will not purchase a windows phone7 device until the usb drive option has been implimented, i still think it's the best OS out there hands down.

those of you that point out the kin: the reason the Kin failed is because verizon was charging the smartphone $30 fee on top of this device if you wanted it. Smart parents would not pay $30 for that device and ultimately it failed. I blame MS because they should have know better than to launch this device on verizon network instead of T-Mobile and/or sprint because of their price points. the kin would have been very successful as were the sidekicks were when they lanched only on t-mobile.

[JamesHulsmann]

Originally Posted by testacon

But you get the general concern, you get an email with a pdf or word attachment, you open up the attachment while listening to music probably will end something else that's running concurrently. Even placing the cap at two or three processes concurrently is much better then just one. This is a optimized 1Ghz CPU and currently we are able to do this now, with a significantly slower CPU and less ram. This is the best they can come up with in the 4 years of development since the release of the iPhone? For the amount of slamming I do with Apple, they got copy and paste, they are rumored to be getting multitasking in the new release and Microsoft is bringing even less features to the table then that which they are trying to clone. Yet for some reason, everyone is excited and pleased by this. Why?

I truly don't understand why more of you don't get this. What makes your phone different then a PC? Would any of you complain if suddenly Microsoft XP/VISTA/7 turned off the DVD/CD player on your computer. What about not be able to install programs that aren't signed by M$? Prevented you from building OEM equipment like Apple does? Made you activate Windows every time you installed it, even know it's their crappy programing issues that causes the exploits that viruses use and then punished because of a re-install--whoops they do that now, don't they? Would any of you care then, why is the phone any different?

This blind loyalty to M$ just kills me!

A) You dont sound like you knoe what your talking about
B) You love your straw men, dont you?
C) First party multitasking will allow the email and other crap to happen that you want and this has been explained mroe then once in the thread already, just not necessarily to you.
D) Usually seeing blind loyalty somewhere else or fanboyism for something other than what you like says more about YOU than the person your wrongfully attempting to classify.

So far, nearly all of your posts in this forum are borderline trolling... but dont worry, your must be good at it since most noone seems to notice or mind.

[JamesHulsmann]

Originally Posted by itster

let me explain windows mobile to you if you haven't gotten the idea all these years. It's not a gameboy or any other type of toy you may be thinking of, it's a business device and the OS was designed to compete with Palm OS and symbian smartphones. MS got lazy because it was their market and no one cant touch it. Then Apple came along with the Ipod with a built in phone idea that many thought would not take off, but it did.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with windows mobile at it's current state. If your phone crashes it's because you screw around with the OS by downloading beta's all day/week/month/year. The OS is very fast if you dont have junk like Sense running on top of it that slow it down drastically. I know it's not cute like the cute buttons on android and iphone devices, but it's a business device and the main screen on windows mobile is meant to be direct and to the point. that's something microsoft has been very successful at for many years.

Those of you that think MS takes the market back, you better think again because MS went into the smartphone business with palm holding almost 90% of the market and took it over quickly.

also windows phone 7 devices do have multi-tasking abilities but not refined. look at this example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5G-Jj33XQI

although i will not purchase a windows phone7 device until the usb drive option has been implimented, i still think it's the best OS out there hands down.

those of you that point out the kin: the reason the Kin failed is because verizon was charging the smartphone $30 fee on top of this device if you wanted it. Smart parents would not pay $30 for that device and ultimately it failed. I blame MS because they should have know better than to launch this device on verizon network instead of T-Mobile and/or sprint because of their price points. the kin would have been very successful as were the sidekicks were when they lanched only on t-mobile.

rumor has it that delays in MS to deliver the Kin are what ultimatety got Verizon to charage more than they were going to, in other worde - the origianl deal included pricing that would probably have been successfull, but after the delays, its basicalyl became "why should I get a Kin if I can get a full smar tphone for the same rates?"...

[sprinttouch666]

Originally Posted by orangekid

I'll bet you 12 fish tacos all 9 of those things are unlocked within 6 months of WM7 being released.

At least7 out of 9 is my guess