Windows Phone 7 Discussion

[fixxxer2012]

Originally Posted by smoove21

Yes i agree with you but what everyone means is custom roms and phones shipping with different ui's like touchflo and sense. Now its looking like the phones will have to be jailbroken or can only be tweaked like the pre or android phones. Although palm helps with the hacking lol im not so sure microsoft will be so helpful.

i don't think you guys will get a lot of custom roms with wm7 my friend.

[Tim Smith]

Originally Posted by fixxxer2008

the new UI looks like sh** to me. as i said balmer can polish a turd but it still won't save winmo. im soo glad i jumped ship to android. bye bye winmo!

Why does everyone that dislikes windows mobile/phone have to act like a douchebag when they talk about it? Why can't you just say "eh doesn't really do it for me" or something like that? Why does it have to be "OMFG WORST ****ING THING EVERY IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD"?

[fixxxer2012]

lmao..between microsoft and this BIG FAIL and apple locking out any jailbroken users from the app store i guess androids fanbase will grow 10x as fast now. it's almost like they want android to dominate the market this year.

[fixxxer2012]

Originally Posted by Tim Smith

Why does everyone that dislikes windows mobile/phone have to act like a douchebag when they talk about it? Why can't you just say "eh doesn't really do it for me" or something like that? Why does it have to be "OMFG WORST ****ING THING EVERY IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD"?

im sorry man, it looks like total crap. ill take my android any day compared to that. enjoy your tp2 and winmo 6.1 and 6.5 becuase wm7 is a fail.

[Tim Smith]

Originally Posted by fixxxer2008

lmao..between microsoft and this BIG FAIL

How is this a big fail? A majority of the people I've seen talk about this across multiple sites have been positive. You and the other negative little bitches are the minority.

[Tim Smith]

Originally Posted by fixxxer2008

im sorry man, it looks like total crap. ill take my android any day compared to that.

I have no problem with people saying they like android or iphone UI more. Though I would be confused by the iphone comment but I can understand the android thing. I like it, I think it's second compared to this but I still like it. My problem is with people bashing this just because they don't like it. It's the over the top shit that annoys me.

[fixxxer2012]

Originally Posted by Tim Smith

How is this a big fail? A majority of the people I've seen talk about this across multiple sites have been positive. You and the other negative little bitches are the minority.

just keep telling yourself wm7 rocks man.

[Noir]

Initially, my posts for wp7 felt the OS wasn't lackluster and initially my review was negative for a few reasons. I think the biggest thing is that the presentation was a teaser and true Q n A wasn't explored (like adobe pdf/epub support, integration in business side/oem manufacturers). However, in viewing the information ad nauseum, I think I am starting to appreciate what microsoft has done and why many are saying they are switching apple and droid for this.

I think the first big thing was the dismissal of an application system. There are too many darn applications in my eyes and it does make things complex. Apple's main campaign was there's an app for that. Similarly, droid and windows mobile followed (with windows you can argue started the trend) with their respective app stores to capitalize on the application system. In many ways, this meant that there were various applications and user customizability to your hearts content. But it made things complex and the flow of communication seemed very difficult. For instance , facebook and myspace have different applications based on the same contact! In many ways, HTC has improved on this system with integration of social networking rise integrated within htc sense, but still very little is done on microsoft's end. The hub system is actually very complex, but very simplistic in that almost all of the information you need to know is a gesture or two away. That is a mindblowing aspect of wp7. The hub makes it so that information isn't disconnected across platforms and are focused instead to meet the users needs. That is extraordinary.

Another thing that stands out is the fluidity. Macosx, android, webos, symbian, and the like seem to mimic each other in gesture control and even animation. There lacked a lot of originality in the mobile phone arena. At this point, there needs to be heavier cohesion of things and maintaining originality with simplicity. Microsoft has done that for the entire operating system. This has a lot of rammifications to OEMs as it gives them more freedom to roam. I recall seeing a new "sense" that HTC began to petition for patent process, and when I initially saw the design, it made absolutely no sense to me. Now that I see wp7, I can definitely see that Microsoft and HTC are working closely to make an ultimate experience for the end user at the sake of simplicity. I also see other developers taking this stand and going back to the lab for the sake of windows mobile.

Consumer support is something that I have to give microsoft much credit for. They stepped it up in the consumer sector with their kiss attitude about not making things not fantastically pretty, but making element of the ui easy to access without multiple clicks/gestures/modifications/whatever. Right now, microsoft is broadening its demographic for the almighty dollar, and so far, people are listening.

This isn't a truly rosy picture, though. There are some gripes that i have with wp7. For one thing is the lack of device uniformity. Chassis 1 specs are at a higher end, and yet Toshiba is releasing a definitive wp7 with 256 mb ram. Does that make sense? No, but it does show that wp7 can run on lower ram requirements. The emphasis that microsoft has on uniformity is dismissed when I see and compare a toshiba device to an htc (where there is a lot of ram/rom on the latter and not so much on the preceding). All that makes me realize is that there may be other experiences to wp7.

So where does that leave us?

I think microsoft just wanted to wet our whistle of the biggest things wp7 can do. Its not ready for prime time and undeniably so its not. But I think MIX10 will give us a lot more details and as users we can determine whether we want to switch. Personally, I was anti wp7 for a moment, but then thinking of it, I can only say I want to continue watching the progression of wp7 for the fall.

What would be nice is a global strategic release of the software and hardware (something we didn't see with wp6.5). So all that said, I think I may jump ship just to get a new experience thereof. All in all, time will tell of the changes made. I think maybe there should be some time. I can definitely now see wp7 phone in the htc hd3 and the hd2 too despite the no search button requirement. I have a lot of questions at MIX and I hope they will be answered. But so far, I went from totally hating it when I think about it, its not so bad

[fixxxer2012]

don't get me wrong i was really hoping they could deliver something that would bring me back to winmo. but im not at all impressed. looks like my next phone later this year after my hero will be the nexus one.

[gcianc]

Originally Posted by brownhornet

I take it you're easily impressed... there's nothing even remotely impressive about it IMO. Looks like an iphone knocking using the zune. Then again I wasnt really expecting to be blown away anyways considering its microsoft.

dead wrong.... i'm NOT easily impressed.

if this looks like iPhone to you then you're either totally biased, a hater or blind.

in fact though, i despise TF3D/Sense and most geek garbage posted. iPhone is a decent but clumsy start... YAWN.

Even more though i HATE NO INTEGRATION and jumping thru hoops to get basic stuff working. i do consider myself clue'd into the real world though. If you sold (ie. customers payed YOU for software YOU developed) then perhaps you'd be there too.

The WM7 phone showed today - if it did NOTHING MORE - would SELL ITSELF on all carriers over palm and 'droid and blackberry as well as do great on ATT/iPhone.

android is now poised to be the "give it away to geeks" platform that carriers will shun (once wp7 ships in mass) unless they get serious google payola (see palm on spring .... yawn).

Vendors NEED product to sell and WP7 will sell, sell, sell based on what you already saw. Anyone with a clue will recognize this.

sorry WP7 is a GAME CHANGER more than i myself actually ever expected.