Windows Phone 7 Discussion

[jbearamus]

Originally Posted by amw1972

I'll bump all the IMPRESSED posts...but here's my take...

As much as its nice to see M$ taking a giant LEAP with WinPho7...they basically closed the book on 6.5 and 6.5.x. All the custom ROM's that we love to run...the custom interfaces...most of those if NOT all will be moot within the next couple of years.

Look at the iPhone...even when jailbroken...and/or with 3rd party skinning...it still LOOKS like the iPhone. I think we just lost an "OPEN" system where there is so much user modification...that as much as we complain about WinMo sucked...we thoroughly enjoy the flashing of ROM's...the bleeding edge software (beta's and alpha's) the newest builds...

I hope PPCGeeks live on after this...and an expanded Android section...because I think Supersonic will be my next device....bye bye Windows Mobile or whatever you call youself!!!=D>

we don't necessarily know that it's all locked up, for all we know we'll still be able to hack/tweak/customize, may not have as much control over it as we used to but it would expect it to be just as hackable as Android or WebOS

[Tim Smith]

Originally Posted by brownhornet

Looks like an iphone knocking using the zune. Then again I wasnt really expecting to be blown away anyways considering its microsoft.

That first sentence makes no sense and that second sentence explains everything.

[Tim Smith]

Originally Posted by jbearamus

we don't necessarily know that it's all locked up, for all we know we'll still be able to hack/tweak/customize, may not have as much control over it as we used to but it would expect it to be just as hackable as Android or WebOS

People love drama and love to freak out and make everything a big deal.

[jbearamus]

Originally Posted by Tim Smith

People love drama and love to freak out and make everything a big deal.

true, i think it'll come out better than most people are expecting

[smoove21]

Originally Posted by brownhornet

So... after seeing this press conference is anyone actually impressed? I have to say honestly im not in the least bit.. makes me hope the supersonic definitely comes to Sprint now that'll be my next phone.

When its compared to microsoft's older mobile os' im impressed, but if it were to be lined up with other mobile os' then no im not. I guess its because of how touchflo,sense,mobile shell etc have shown what can be done with windows. As far as features and the ui.. it isnt anything new. Its the zune interface with tiles, its like a titanium/zune/blur/webos/android/iphone os mash-up. Again this os is aimed to contend with those other os' but we have to be honest...it copies alot from them, its mostly a clone of their features with a little microsoft flavor added in. Its hard to get excited about another os especially one that starts all the way over,negates all past apps and brings nothing new to the table. There's really no eye candy, its just a plain vanilla os. Is this to help make it fast and maintain stability? Also they want to encourage innovation with phone manufactures? How will they do that if they cant do anything to the software? I mean htc makes sexy hardware but i like sense and enjoy touchflo. How will these companies differentiate themselves from one another? This leaves opportunity for that lame android to grow & prosper. I'm hoping this "legacy" version that ive recenly heard about is more like the previous versions(roms,custom ui's etc) and not just windows phone 7 with the business features added.

[skullan]

Personally, I believe that there probably still is customization that can be done (to a degree). http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=124244&lang=1033

“Windows Phone 7 Series is a significant milestone for Microsoft, the industry and ultimately people looking to do more on their phones. HTC is working closely with Microsoft to bring the unique HTC experience that customers love,” said Peter Chou, chief executive officer of HTC Corporation. “Microsoft has clearly listened to feedback from people and brought a new, fresh approach to the smartphone experience that is beautiful, powerful and compelling.”

[smoove21]

Originally Posted by skullan

Personally, I believe that there probably still is customization that can be done (to a degree). http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=124244&lang=1033

Yes i agree with you but what everyone means is custom roms and phones shipping with different ui's like touchflo and sense. Now its looking like the phones will have to be jailbroken or can only be tweaked like the pre or android phones. Although palm helps with the hacking lol im not so sure microsoft will be so helpful.

[brownhornet]

Originally Posted by smoove21

NO....the only thing that separates this os from any other os is its xbox live intergration.. Everyone wont go to android if anything android has to be worried about windows phone. Android isnt anything special, has nothing unique to offer its just free and no phone manufacturer has to pay google to license it. Im sad that windows mobile as we know it is gone, but this new os was obviously developed to combat apple and it does one up them in the sense that they do have xbox live and their office suite for mobile. There's no way in the world that this will make blackberry suffer.

This "legacy" edition of windows phone everyone speaks of, are there any links i can go to so i can read up on it? Today reading this thread is my first time hearing about it.. i know about the starter edition of windows phone series http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/mwc-w...ement-tomorrow but not legacy.. If this is true then microsoft is making a bigger mess in my opinion. With legacy,starter, 6.5.3 and the one announced today.. It's too many different versions to support with fast ota updates. Dont tell me we are headed down a slow update process like with old versions again.

Uh, in case you havent noticed phone sales as of lately plenty of people are ALREADY going to Android.. and after this "big" announcement I definitely dont see that changing. The biggest excuse people here loved to use as to justify winmo still was the customization... what now?

[brownhornet]

Originally Posted by smoove21

When its compared to microsoft's older mobile os' im impressed, but if it were to be lined up with other mobile os' then no im not. I guess its because of how touchflo,sense,mobile shell etc have shown what can be done with windows. As far as features and the ui.. it isnt anything new. Its the zune interface with tiles, its like a titanium/zune/blur/webos/android/iphone os mash-up. Again this os is aimed to contend with those other os' but we have to be honest...it copies alot from them, its mostly a clone of their features with a little microsoft flavor added in. Its hard to get excited about another os especially one that starts all the way over,negates all past apps and brings nothing new to the table. There's really no eye candy, its just a plain vanilla os. Is this to help make it fast and maintain stability? Also they want to encourage innovation with phone manufactures? How will they do that if they cant do anything to the software? I mean htc makes sexy hardware but i like sense and enjoy touchflo. How will these companies differentiate themselves from one another? This leaves opportunity for that lame android to grow & prosper. I'm hoping this "legacy" version that ive recenly heard about is more like the previous versions(roms,custom ui's etc) and not just windows phone 7 with the business features added.

And again, nothing is going to stop Android from growing including winmo. It's already been projected that within a year Android will have the second largest marketshare behind Nokia based off of their current growth. Trust, Android is just getting started and wont be going anywhere. And whenever that Supersonic comes to Sprint I will be getting one.. thought about the Nexus but dont wanna go to T-mobile to get it.

[fixxxer2012]

the new UI looks like sh** to me. as i said balmer can polish a turd but it still won't save winmo. im soo glad i jumped ship to android. bye bye winmo!