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I got a GV invite and set up my # a couple of days ago.

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I purchased Magicall a couple of months ago and works great.
My question is how do I to set up Magicall so I can make outgoing calls, whether I input the number directly or access numbers from my contact list, and have the calls go thru Google Voice?
And do I need to download your rule to do that.
I have Pick 3.
In other words, what do I have to do in order to dial as normal and have calls go thru my Google Voice number automatically? Thanks.

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that was a answer to a guy who lost username/password/e-mail for his GV account and wanted to know how to get back in...

download rules.
place in my docs/magicall
start magicall - it will ask "import new rules?"
click yes
edit rule "google voice"
urnumber = GV numer
pin = your GV VM pin
the rest leave alone!
minimize magicall - dont close it by "killing" the prosses.
dial as normal and enjoy the automation
see first post for details.

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That was me who lost the password and email account was changed.
I posted my issue on the Google Voice Forum. I was issued a GV # a couple of days later.

Thanks for the installation steps :)

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I overwrote the rules as described and a whole new set of rules appeared.
But I lost all of my previous rules and info. I thought that this new rule would just be added. But this rule is part of a set that overwrote my other rules. Lost my Log Viewer info as well as all of my "specific numbers" that were being filtered from my previous rules.

Outgoing calls are automatically going thru GV very nicely. You do here the process going on and it takes approx. 12 seconds to complete.
If you are watching your minutes, it is worth the wait. You can always stop the rule from running if you wish.
As I look into this further, I see I have to set up all the previous rules that I had before.
Unless I am missing something, it appears that this rule change is better if you install it when you first purchase Magicall, rather than if you install it on an existing, running Magicall Program.
I finally set up my rules as it says to do in post #1.
If I had to do this all over again, I would just add the new GV Outgoing Call Rule to my previous running Rules.

The new rule is working very well and I thank MordyT for that.

You may want to add some of the info above, in post #1, about overwriting the new rules on an existing program, so others won't lose any existing Magicall info.

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sorry to hear that you lost all your rules...
i didn't know that it didn't just add but overwrote.
btw, that is the only file you need to backup b4 a flash so in the next rom you just restore.
about starting progie first - needs to create a set b4 importing work (i think). This is just how i did it so...
editied first post with info - check it out!

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Thanks for adding that. Much appreciated.
No big deal regarding setting up the rules and most of my numbers again, now that it's done :)

Great work by the way. This will really help out alot of people.

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I'm not sure how many people have read my posts regarding this seemingly excellent option, which for the most part is true, so big thanks to Mordy for reminding me about the wonderfully configurable Magicall. But having said that, I also wanted to add a few things that I've found to be true about the quirks I've been coming across. Actually, due to an in-line epiphany, I have deleted the bullet list I had and what follows is just a short scenario list after seeing some successful Incoming/Outgoing calls in ensemble.

Interestingly enough, I do seem to occasionally receive 'Incoming Calls' flagged with my google voice number, which in turn attach to my Mobile2Home bank instead of Anytime. This could be caused by one of two variables that seem to have changed. Recently, I ticked the "Display caller's number" radio button instead of "Display my Google Voice #" because I figured it wasn't doing any good for free Incoming GV. The other is the fact that a bunch of those incoming google voice calls might have been flagged as unavailable, because I was roaming.

So we have a couple scenarios if anyone has bothered to read this far. I'll try to test them tonight or perhaps tomorrow when I have caught up on some sleep. Any input on this issue is much appreciated.

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I have noticed that on Outgoing calls using GV and Magicall, sometimes the "String" is not completed and the outgoing number is not called. Instead, my GV # is called only and a partial string is completed which results in an endless recorded Loop.
I then disconnect the call, then dial the call again and it goes thru.
In the String, I did delete some commas (,) in error and reinsert them.
Would the following # of (,) 's be correct >>
I have the "String" in the new rule as:
Google Voice #,,,pin code,2,{phone}#
I have also used 2 (,) 's after my GV# and the outgoing issue still occurs intermittently.
It may just be a matter of timing of how the String dials outbound calls and is connecting to the Sprint network, which is why the issue occurs sporadically.

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I'm not quite sure what you are saying. Are u saying that you are getting charged for your GV minutes by sprint? If so, please remeber that changing your pick 3 requires a new bill cycle to go in effect (i think). If not can you please clarify. Thanks for your input.



The (,)'s indicate pause. If you feel the program is moving faster then GV - go ahead add more comma's. The combination set in the rules is what i have found to be the best for me. Results may vary. Even somtimes with me (1 out of 50) i find that the program moves faster then google. However i have alos found this to much better battery/resouces/usabilty wise then any other program.

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Hi.
You are right that it does take a billing cycle for the "Pick" number change to take effect.
I too did not understand the op's post fully.
My experience with 3 commas has been that in 1 in 4-5 calls, the String is moving too quickly.
I will insert 4 ,'s and see the outcome.

UPDATE:
I am now using 4 commas after GV# and it is working flawlessly.
5 for 5 with no issues :)

Two ?'s >>
1) What was the default string regarding quantity of comma's?
2) I emailed Google regarding their GVdial application in regards to the time it takes to complete an outbound call using GV with GVdial.
I am awaiting their reply.
I don't see it being any quicker than using Magicall.
What has been your experience ?
Thanks.

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good info, might have to get one of these, thx

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thanks for the feedback.

1) could be wrong - default string is 3 the 1 the 1 - i'll have to check later.
2) GVDialer id NOT made by Google. There is no Google app for WinMo Yet!
3) Magicall is the best imho.

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I'm sorry guys, it's been a long couple of days and sleep deprivation is catching up to me quickly. Let me see if I can even translate my own nonsense here. I was able to add pick3 to my account the day before my billing cycle ended, so that's definitely not the case. Excuse the poor table formatting, I didn't feel much like screenshot editing right now. 555.555.GOOG is obviously my google voice number. Do you notice how these two calls differ in the ensemble log? No setting changes were made, both calls were placed during peak hours, and the ones on 8/04 will go against my AT minutes even though they showed on my handset as my GV#. I was probably roaming, so that's where the Unavailable came from.

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Thanks for the info.
Here I am thinking I was emailing Google :(

Update:
I never got a response from the GVDial team so screw them :(
An app is only as good as the support from its developer(s)

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excuse my ignorance, please?

where do we get google voice from, or how to sign up.

this isn't the same as their google talk?

thanks for the help!

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You can go to google.com/voice
to check out all the info. You can sign up and they will send you an invite.

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I gonna have to correct you biker1 - google.com/voice is where you ask for an invite. It is diffrent from google talk. Good luck - it takes a couple days for it.

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That's what I had. j/k
I just corrected the address.
I actually posted the correct address in full yesterday, but the link was broken so I removed it and replaced it with what I googled which is not the address.
Thanks for catching that.

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I think i'm going to make a video of how magic call works and how easy it is compared to the gv dailer, and i might even compare it to idailer/icontacts wich i think is the best free option.

Because I want a nice visual voicemail app, no its not standard. i can download my voicemails on to a windows mobile phone but it would be nice if it was as integrated like google voice for android, and blackberry. Just would be a nice feature to have whether or not i choose to use it, im sure some of you would agree.

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That sounds like a good idea.
Let me know when its up and running.

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I have a new found respect for people who make youtube videos explaing things lol. I'm so out of my league but hopefully it will help some of you... at least it shows what you could expect when useing magicall or Idailer/icontacts for google voice. Ill post the link very soon. ill just edit this post with the link below.

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I will, with your permission, link the video into the first post.
I will give you credit and a link back to the post like i did with ?Biker1? couple of posts back.
let me know

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You might should have kept this quiet. I'd expect new Sprint exclusion rules before long. There are a lot of Sprint employees on this site. Just my 2 cents. lol

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I don't think it really matters. When GrandCentral started, people were doing this with their incoming calls. It was posted all over the place.
With GV, you are now able to do it with outgoing also. MordyT just makes it easier :)
Out of millions of customers, I would say that an extremely small percentage of customers utilize GV in this way.
I gotta go, I hear a knock at the door :mrgreen:

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Sure, I finished the video last night. and had it uploading before I left. It said It may take a few hours to be approved by youtube... but here we are a day later and I don't see it on my account yet. I won't get to try and upload it again until I get back home.:protest:

I actually was giving you all the credit in the description and refereed to this thread for more details.

*edit* ok.. I'm trying to re-upload it right now... hopefully I'll have a link to post soon...

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Well I hear what you're saying but... sprint only offer's "pick 3-5" to a select few as it is... they don't advertise it... and if they do for some reason change their policy then that's a reason to wave the early termination fee for anyone who want's to leave... so damned if they do, and damned if they don't i sapose...

but I doubt they would make that move unless they some how get support from other providers and they all drop that feature at once, cuz otherwise sprint's customers could go (with ETF's waived) to one of the company who does still offer that feature... which is why sprint has "pick 3" in the first place.. to keep you from going to company's like verizon to compete with their "IN" and t-mobiles "fav5's" and alltells "my circle" but on the low in-case you threaten to leave because of it. However, I don't suggest you threaten to leave... unless you're prepared to stand behind your threat because your not guaranteed a "Pick 3" offer, again they are selective about it lol.. or it just may not occur to the rep to offer it to you at that time lol still.. be prepared for the worst result.. Murphy's law...

not to mention the gov would prolly get involved, look at whats going on between the gov, at&t, google, and apple right now due to apple denying google voice in its app store.

Personally theres nothing illegal about google voice so theres no need to be hiding away in shame about it, yes you can greatly lower ur phone bill with it if paired with the right calling plan. but its not practical for the average users, maybe some day it will be... but most ppl are a lil too lazy to learn how to use it lol... that's just my opinion tho.

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Cellular companies make mucho dinero $$$$$.
Just look at the Congressional Hearings about Text Messaging. How it costs a penny, etc. and cellular companies charge 20 cents. Across the board. All about a Monopoly.
You should have heard the BullShi*t coming out of the mouths of the CEO's of Verizon and Atnt defending themselves.
So you're right about the Carriers not wanting to rock the boat anymore than they have.
I think we will be safe for awhile :)

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Here's the link to the video (FINALLY) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn4LV62KatY

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I went to the link but it said "Not Available on Mobile," so I will what until later when I'm at my pc.
Thanks for taking the time to make the video.

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added to first post! thanks.

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Np, hope it helps some out... I know I could have did ALOT better... but its out there now.

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@MordyT
I have an issue that I can't figure out.
Maybe you can shed some light on it:
In the set of Rules that I downloaded from your link in post #1, I deleted them (to make room for more rules) except for >
1) E911
2) Google Voice
I realize that the E911 rule is so 911 dials out normally, without using GV. So far, so good.
I have added 2 more specific numbers to that rule. Both of those numbers also dial out without GV which is great. So now there are 3 numbers in that Rule.
Initially, I set up my own Rule exactly like you set up the E911 Rule, but I named my Rule differently.
The reason is that I wanted to keep my personal Specific numbers separately from the E911 Rule. But my personal numbers were also going to dial out directly just as 911 does.
I tried to set up my own Rule 5 times, but the Specific Numbers were going thru GV. I checked my filters and operations settings multiple times.
I deleted the Rule and set it up again multiple times, but I could never get it to work. My Specific Numbers continued to use GV.
I finally deleted my new Rule and put my personal Specific Numbers in your E911 Rule, and they worked perfectly.
Can you tell me what you think was happening.
Did you set up the E911 Rule differently than I am able to?
As I said, I checked and rechecked my settings and they were the same as yours except for the Rule name.

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the easiest way to set up a new rule is:
higlight one of the old rules (thats no GV but rather like E911)
hold down stylus so it gets pop-up menu
click copy
modify copied rule to dial the number you want.
click and hold down modified rule
click move to top


@biker
the reason its not working for you is simple:
you new rule to dial normally must be above the rule to dial out through GV

the program works in order of the rules.
simply click and hold and click move to top

let me know how it goes!

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I never knew that the order of the rule mattered.
I will move the Rule and post back.
Btw, are you the Developer of Magicall?

Update:
Works perfectly.
Thanks.

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nope - i happen to know one of them.

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When I first purchased Magicall, I had contact with Song via multiple emails about an issue I was having.
We troubleshot it for a few days with debug files, etc.
Song had me add a registry which was >
DontFilter2ndCall.
You are probably aware of that registry.
Song gives excellent support of Magicall. A Huge Plus in my book.

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Just thought I would share a little tip that I found with all of you guys here since everyone is so helpful. I am on Sprint, and a lot of my family is as well. Instead of having my GV number show up for them I just wanted to keep it all Sprint to Sprint so that none of them need to worry about minutes. Instead of adding a lot of different rules into the mix I went the easy way and made sure all of my contacts were in the "Sprint" category (When you edit your contacts you can pick a category ie.. business, personal and so forth. I created one that I called "Sprint" for obvious reasons.) Then I simply made a rule that was based on category instead of phone number. Keeps things nice and efficient.

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the newest dialer..
gvo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546336


let me know how it works people

WOOOT!
thanks to a mgical mod it is now a poll option.

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google voice is a great feature to have on any device! But note to self and everyone who reads this please do not setup the account to forward all txts from the number to ur phone and then go to work inside a building that has no cell phone service(the pentagon) and sit and chat on google voice via the web client gui the whole work day without disabling the txt forwarding to ur moblie device!!
i say that because i didnt do it and when i left the building for the day my phone was hit with 217 txt mesages and 5 mms that people had sent to my real cell number(google voice doesnt do mms)
i took 10mins for all of them to come though and another 15 for them to file in correct order and if i remember correct used all of my memory!! my touch pro was moving slower than a 6700 with visualgpsce and google maps running!! then i had to delete everything!!

i say all this to say dont do this to ur self!!