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Thanks MordyT for the Magicall tips and configs! I just bought it, installed it, checked out your rules, and it all works great.

To think of all the energy I have wasted trying...well...I had tried just about every other option except Magicall. Not sure why I didn't try it sooner. I was doing alright having settled on iDialer and iContact together (nice apps), but I couldn't voice dial while driving, and would also occasionally forget and dial from my regular dialer, confusing all my clients who I told to switch numbers.

The Magicall method of seamlessly/instantly intercepting and rerouting outgoing calls through GV is perfect -- it even allows your call history log to reflect the *actual* contacts called without any visible sign that it was rerouted. Score!

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SMS through MagiCall is possible - i have the rules almost ready to go.
Stay posted.

Yep
Oops. My original set did not have sprint vm going out normally. If that is what he wanted, that is doable. will be in the new set shortly
I just copied a rule several time for more numbers that don't go through Gv. somone pmed me saying they couldn't figure out how to copy the exeption rules. thats all
Not yet. hang on.

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Hey, MordyT, you didn't answer any of my questions lol :)
I am just kidding.
I appreciate you verifying that info for me:)
Thanks.
I gotta get the name of the poster regarding the voicemail request.
I will edit this post when I find it.

EDIT:

ikjfdsa is the poster
Post #113 is where the voicemail issue was mentioned.
The voicemail number can be used to call out from and have the voicemail number come up as Private on caller id if option 8 is used for calling out.
The voicemail number can be used as one of the Pick 3 numbers so outgoing is Free as when you use GV.
The only difference would be that the voicemail number would show on the caller id instead of the GV number.
It would appear that the voicemail number would just have to be included in the Exception Rule as you have done.
I think the op had an issue with retrieving his messages because the VM number was going thru GV. But entering his password is the solution.
I may be wrong with what I am saying relating to his request.
When the op reads this, I am sure we will find out :)
Bottomline is this >
If you let your Vm number go thru GV, you will be calling for free. If you choose to use option 8 from your Vm to call out, the caller id will show Private.
You will also not have to use up one of your Pick 3 if you have the Pick 3 option.
If you add your Vm number to the Magicall Exception Rule, you can call (without Vm thinking it is an outside caller) and use your voicemail options as you usually do regarding retrieving messages without entering your password, option 8 to call out, etc.
You can add your Vm number to Pick 3 (if you have that feature) and outgoing calls are free also. Private would show on Caller id.
Why add your Vm number to the Exception Rule?
So people see Private on their caller id. And there would be no delay on connecting to the call.
If you get alot of Vm messages, including the number in the Magicall Exception Rule may be a good choice because you won't have a transfer delay, and including it in your Pick 3 would make calls to Vm Free.
**EDIT**
My choice is to include my Vm number in the Exception Rule. I could always disengage that Rule if needed.
It only takes 1 1/2 seconds to disengage the Rule. Yes, I timed it :)
Depending on whether you have
Pick 3 or not, and what your needs are, these are just some of your options.
I think I covered almost everything.
Feel free to add or correct :)
This post is regarding whether or not to include your Vm number in the Magicall Exceptions Rule.

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Mordy, we are dying to find out the new SMS rule! I cant for the life of me figure it out, I cant wait to see what you come up with. Thanks for recommending Magicall, I too had given up on using my Google voice number because I was unhappy with all the other programs and solutions. This one is perfect, and I was happy to pay for Magicall.

BTW, I think it was Handango, Im not sure where, but when I clicked to leave after putting Magicall in my cart, it gave me the option of one of getting it for free with trialpay. I used trialpay to get Kinoma, which is normally 30 dollars, and I got it for free by signing up for a month of Audible (which came with a free audio book), and it was 7.99. I cancelled after that month, and basically got Kinoma and an audio book for 7.99. So if you want Magicall but cant afford the 24.99, I suggest you do the trialpay, you can get a good deal.

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You don't even need GV to use the dialing out through voicemail method (provided it is a pick 3).

I only mentioned this method as a "here's another way to get free outgoing calls". I don't think dialing through voicemail is better than any of MortyT's methods but if you don't have GV...

Also, dialing out through option 8 in your voicemail shows up on caller ID as Private Number (at least it did for me when I called my home number using this method.

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See my lengthy post regarding why to or not add Vm to the Magicall Exception List.
Basically that is what the post is about. In addition to answering another poster regarding his issue.
I originally included your name and post number in error as I got confused with the other member.
Typing on my Diamond is slightly tedious.
I changed the Vm Caller id description to Private.

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That about sums it up. Great information Biker! I'd just like to hear someone's report on what shows up on caller ID using option 8 in voicemail. I think you mentioned the cell number shows up but for me it was private number. If anyone wants to try and clear that up...

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I misposted as it does shows up Private.
I remember using option 8 previously and people asking why my number is Private.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Thanks previously clicked :)
Post is edited but the timing is off regarding responses.
You can see my last couple of posts :)

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The reason for the delay is twofold.

First, you are going to need more then a cellphone number of your recipent. This will get a little long. If you remeber when you set up GV, they had to call your cell. A 406 area cose number came up and you answered and they gave you the varification code. All that is unimportant. However, someone showed me that everyone who has a GV number has a special 406 number that they have for life. Google has assinged that number to them in their servers (however it works) I saved mine and you could call it and it will goto me. Everyone that calls you GV number also gets a 406 number. you could call it and it will goto them. The tricky part of all this is getting their 406 number. I am looking for a way easier way of getting the 406 number. You need that 406 number to send a sms without having to goto GV website.

Second, my rules set is huge. Just clearing out some rules and realseing it won't work because some of my rules are dependant on others. I tried just deleting the numbers and it stopped working. I am trying to clean up the dependancies and be done with it but it is hard.

I don't have an ETA for the realse set with SMS, but i do have some nice rules that are for eveyone that require almost no config. Tjose of you who like to play around in MagiCall won't care as you have set up everything i am adding, those of you who just want to drop in the rules set and go (after changing ur gv number and pin part) are going to like them. See you all later.


EDIT:
btw biker1, great post about the VM, ye got thanked

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Thanks Mordy, take your time, Im just grateful that you are sharing all this with us. Thank you for your hard work!

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I wanted to dial my Sprint voicemail normally/direct, not through GV.

Why would you want to call your Sprint voicemail through Google voice or waste one of your Pick 3 numbers to do this? Isn't it a free call anyway.

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Thanks MordyT
I just edited my Vm post #123. I Just added my own personal choice.
Thanks for your hard work regarding sms and all.
I knew there was a reason I didn't attempt that Rule :mrgreen:
I personally don't sms much. But I know others do by the 1000's.

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Just use the one that ends with MOD in the first post - sprint voicemail regular is set up that way.
or you could copy one of the regular rules and modify it for vm.
if you need more help, don't hesitae to ask

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MordyT, just loaded the MOD. It's exactly what I wanted it to do...dial Sprint voicemail direct. Thanks

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Originally Posted by lkjfdsa http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
I wanted to dial my Sprint voicemail normally/direct, not through GV.

Why would you want to call your Sprint voicemail through Google voice or waste one of your Pick 3 numbers to do this? Isn't it a free call anyway

Calling your voicemail is not a Free Call.
MordyT has made it easy for you to set up Magicall the way you want it regarding the set of Rules he has included in Post #1 including Exceptions, etc.
There are reasons to include or not include your Vm number with GV.
But if you have Magicall, you would have to include it or exclude it in a Rule.
See Post #123 as it was your post that prompted me to Post it :)

EDIT:
I just saw that you downloaded the new set of Rules.
Good to hear it's working for you.

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I feel the need to say the following >

If someone just purchased Magicall, or does not have many Rules or Log History, or just can't figure out how to make Rules, downloading Mordy's new set of Rules is an Excellent way to go.
They are well thought out, and MordyT has put alot of time and effort into his work, and he continues to do so, so you wouldn't have to :)
I know what it is like to put together new rules. Some can breeze thru them while it will take alittle more time for others.
There are those who will get frustrated and may not use Magicall to its full potential.
MordyT is not only making Rules, he is making a Generic set of Rules, which is much more difficult to do, which can be used by anyone.
In addition, he is attempting to make a generic SMS Rule, which is even that much more difficult to accomplish.
So download away and you won't regret it :)
And don't forget to Thank him :mrgreen:

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MordyT,

Your understanding of the google 406 numbers is not accurate.

When somebody texts your GV number, it will come in as a 406 number, and you can reply to that number and it will be routed to them. However, that number is only unique to them when coming from your phone.

If you text that number from another phone, for example, it will not go to that person.

Unfortunately, GV does not have enough 406 numbers for everyone to have one, so they have developed this very creative way of assigning your contact with a 406 number. When sent from your phone, they know to route that number to the proper recipient.

The 406 number gets assigned when a contact first sends a text to your GV number. There is no known way of getting your contacts "pre-assigned".

you

Re: Google Voice Incoming/Outgoing Options!
 

Just installed MagiCall and so far it's great! Looking forward to the SMS rules. :)

Charlie

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Rereading that post, i realize i was very unclear. What i was trying to say was you could send to the 406 number and it woul go through gv w/o magicall.

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Hi Mordy, not sure if this has been mentioned, but in the tutorial it says to put the rule in "/device/my document", and I believe it should be "/device/my document/magicall". I know most people would probably figure it out on their own, but I guess Im not that smart because I kept putting the file in mydocuments and having nothing happen lol.

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Couple questions.... First is there any better way of using your Google Voice Number on you r cell for incoming outgoing and SMS? I got incoming and outgoing working but SMS is a no go.. How can i achieve this?

Also im on spring are they still offering the pick 3.. if so i want to get off this $99 everything plan...what should i use that has unlimited data as im a bandwidth hog.

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Yeah sorry, fixed and credited

that is more a carrier question.
sms does work through it, i have not gotten time to work out a stable ruleset that is compatible with the latest relased version of magicall - the version i am working with does not work with the version that has been released to the public

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A new Magicall Version?
I could not find it when I looked on the Magicall Website.
Do you have a Link?
And do you know what the Changelog is?
Thanks.

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uh, like i said, its not released....
I know one of the devs...
I sorta beta-test...
Proboly should not have posted that :???:

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thanks for the explanation. I must have skipped over that post :(

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I am succesfully using Magicall to manage my outgoing call, i love it. For the incoming call i have the unlimited plan so i guess i dont need to do anything for incoming calls.

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MordyT any progress on the SMS rule set? SMS is the only thing holding me back from using my GV exclusively.

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I got my invite yesterday. Im on alltel and have 10 myCirlce numbers. If I put my GV number on mycircle will it all be free still?? would I need Idialer too? Im confused cause all this is geared more towards sprint.

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If "MyCircle" is the equivalent of "Sprint's Pick 3" and includes any number, landline, cellullar, etc., then just add Your GV # as one of them, and download the Cab MordyT posted in post #1, and all of your Outgoing calls will be free :)

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I use magicall until GV makes an official app for WinMo

EDIT: did I mention my father and I use friends and family (10 numbers!) and dont pay a cent.

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Of course now sprint is offering free cell to cell calls from any carrier so only landlines use minutes.

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I have a special issue that I can't figure out, hopefully, someone here can give me a hand. I have downloaded Magicall and want to use it with the situation I have.

I have an HTC Imagio which has both CDMA and GSM. My VZW number (CDMA) is my personal cellphone, it is only used to call my family and very, very close friends and they are the only ones who have that number. I have a TMO sim (prepaid) in the GSM side. I always have the phone on set to CDMA. When travelling if my office needs to call me Iwant them to do it on the GSM side. Now, since that side is turned off I want the voicemail/missed call to be sent to my VZW email address which will come in as a text. That way, I know I have a call from the text message and then can switch the phone over to GSM and place the call from there showing my GV number. I do this in case I have to call a customer or vendor and don't have to give up to them my personal cell number.

Now, the problem is, I have GV setup with a professional voice service that gives out the annoucenment to leave a message so that it almost matches our office phone service (but without the list of options). That way a customer or vendor calling me directly does not get my cell phone number. I added my personal VZW number to GV and now instead of the caller hearing my personal announcement they get the business announcement on GV and they are finding it confusing. I want my VZW number to go directly to my cellphone VZW voicemail but I cannot figure out a way to do that. IOW, when someone calls my VZW number Iwant them to also get my VZW voicemail and not hear the google voice announcement. When they call my TMO number I want those people to get my gv business announcement.

If I remove my personal VZW number from GV then I can't get GV to send text to my VZW number. If I add it and then enter all texts/emails to go to my VZW number (which I want) then all my voicemails are intercepted by GV and they get an announcement that I don't want them to get.

Have I confused everyone enough??

Does anyone have a possible solution for this? It is driving me nuts and am about to give up trying to figure this out.

R

A couple interesting questions
 

I have been using gvdialer. I tried idialer (did not like the additional interface and slow contacts) and onedialer.

Onedialer seemed to be a very quick dial out compared to gvdialer and I did not have to listen to anything, it I think it just called me back, I answered and it started dialing my outcall. They seem to have a pretty responsive support they responded to my emails regurlary - could not get to work on custom 6.5 rom for treo pro.

Gvdialer works all the time but does seem to be really slow. I get my sms and it shows that darn 406 number so it does not seem to relate the texts back to a contact in my contacts. I am thinking about trying magicall.

1. Is there a way to get the SMS messages that you receive to relate to a contact in your address book? It seems intermittent to me and sometimes they just come accross with the 406 number?

2. Will magical be quicker or more reliable than GV? I am interested in only dialing and receiving calls easily. gvdialer seems flaky and before this post I was going to load onedialer on my new touch pro 2.

3. Any ideas when google will release their own app and will it be more integrated or quicker, do the android or blackberry work better because google created it?

4. I made my account display google voice number on incoming calls because my sprint to home number is my google voice number. Any way to get calller id to work and have sprint think it is coming from my home(GV) #?

5. If I don't have a pin will it be quicker to dial, will it work?

if nothing changes I will just keep gvdialer until google launches an app even though I have not seen a single upgrade or enhancement since I bought it and support is non existent.

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gVo dialer for me. It gives me best of both worlds. I can use it to make any calls or text from my contact list. I can also just call showing my sprint number when i feel.

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I just installed Magicall on my Touch Pro 2. I must say it is an awesome program to be used with Google Voice. But the $25 price tag is too high. Anyone knows any coupons or discounts I can get on this program?

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i hope onedialer works. Seems simple and effective for $7 hard to beat.

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I paid the full price for Magicall and it is well worth it. That was before I started using it with Google Voice. The Developer stands behind the product 110%, and is there if you ever need help.

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Any news on the new version and the SMS filter?

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It would appear that GVDialer is out of business. No more downloads and you can't buy from their website anymore. Says they will support payed customers but that it is only available for their business partners now. Maybe they where bought as a quick fix by Google?:lurk:

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How I do it without any application: I just make a new phone number for each entry in my phonebook with the dialing rules <gvnumber>pause<password>pause<2>pause<phone number of contact>

It can be a little intensive if you have a million numbers but you can copy/paste most of it in each entry if you do it on your computer. No extra apps, no extra money. For numbers that aren't in your phonebook just make a Google voice contact with the same dialing rules minus the contact number then dial the number when prompted. Took me about 1/2 hour to do 165 entries in my phonebook using Gmail. Any new entries after the initial pain are easy. This makes it easy to dial using either direct dialing or GV. Whats really nice about this is if you have a spare normal phone and can get your contacts into it (Verizon stores can do this so I'm sure other carriers can to) it allows you to easily make outgoing GV calls from that phone. I know I sometimes just want to carry a small pocketable thing instead of my PDA.