Bigger Phones, Kind Of Backwards

zepsamsung · #1 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 02:50 PM

Ok, the new Touch Pro2 is a decent new brick of a phone. It seams that phone makers are going backwards. For years many phone designers have said smaller is better. Well that is not the case lately. They have been designing phones with no hardware keys. This is bad in many cases like mine, I don't sweat on half my body and fingertips. No dpad or keys would mean I would have to lick my fingers all the time while useing a full touch screen. Also, if you broke your screen hunting or hiking and had to call 911, you could not with no hardware keys or keyboard. So why do a lot of folks want theses bigger phones? Before long you would be holding a 6 inch screen with a foot massaager built in, joke. So the industry has gone from palm size to brick size which is backwards. If you want a huge screen, buy a netbook.

**Darkjedi** · #2 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 02:59 PM

For normal phones maybe, but for smartphones, screensize is usually directly correlated with phone size. I personally prefer the larger screen of the TP2 and would gladly exchange hardware buttons for that. I constantly browse the internet on my phone and the 2.8" screen can cause eye strain. The VGA resolution helps, but it's still limited to its size. The iPhone proved that the market was looking for devices with large screens. Not that they are necessarily bigger, but that they are just easier to look at and use. In any case, one of the iphone's 'features' was that it was thin too. I've always questioned why companies don't just create a device with the screen taking up like 99% of the surface, but instead have like bezeling and other things that take up space that could be used for screen space. As much as I dislike the iPhone, it's probably the posterchild of that sort of design. This new TP2 is pretty close.

Why would you need to sweat/lick your fingers for touch screens?

zepsamsung · #3 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by darkjedi007

For normal phones maybe, but for smartphones, screensize is usually directly correlated with phone size. I personally prefer the larger screen of the TP2 and would gladly exchange hardware buttons for that. I constantly browse the internet on my phone and the 2.8" screen can cause eye strain. The VGA resolution helps, but it's still limited to its size. The iPhone proved that the market was looking for devices with large screens. Not that they are necessarily bigger, but that they are just easier to look at and use. In any case, one of the iphone's 'features' was that it was thin too. I've always questioned why companies don't just create a device with the screen taking up like 99% of the surface, but instead have like bezeling and other things that take up space that could be used for screen space. As much as I dislike the iPhone, it's probably the posterchild of that sort of design. This new TP2 is pretty close.

Why would you need to sweat/lick your fingers for touch screens?

Because touch screens do not react well with super dry skin. I can't use an atm well because of dry finger tips. Also can't grip cardboard or paper, glass is the worst to grip.

esqueue · #4 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by zepsamsung

Because touch screens do not react well with super dry skin. I can't use an atm well because of dry finger tips. Also can't grip cardboard or paper, glass is the worst to grip.

These screens do not rely on any time of moisture or the human body in anyway. They work off of pressure. You are mixing it up with the iphone and palm pre's screens which will not work with extremely dry fingers.

zepsamsung · #5 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by esqueue

These screens do not rely on any time of moisture or the human body in anyway. They work off of pressure. You are mixing it up with the iphone and palm pre's screens which will not work with extremely dry fingers.

I own the Touch Pro and know for a fact that when my finger are realy dry the screen does not react as well as when they are moist. Unless you suffer from my same condition, how would you know if my screen on any of my phones work by just touch? I have brought the issue up with Sprint and they said it has a lot to do with my dry fingers. I can not use most touch screen devices without using a lot of pressure.

zim2323 · #6 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zepsamsung

I own the Touch Pro and know for a fact that when my finger are realy dry the screen does not react as well as when they are moist. Unless you suffer from my same condition, how would you know if my screen on any of my phones work by just touch? I have brought the issue up with Sprint and they said it has a lot to do with my dry fingers. I can not use most touch screen devices without using a lot of pressure.

I'm gonna' call BULL**** on this one. So how does the STYLUS work then?????? Um yeah... not gonna' get around that one, because I doubt the stylus "sweats". I understand you wanna' seem important and thoughtful, but whoever you talked to at Sprint, is exactly why I can't stand Customer Service people. They have no ****in' clue what they are talking about. LOL

esqueue · #7 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by zepsamsung

I own the Touch Pro and know for a fact that when my finger are realy dry the screen does not react as well as when they are moist. Unless you suffer from my same condition, how would you know if my screen on any of my phones work by just touch? I have brought the issue up with Sprint and they said it has a lot to do with my dry fingers. I can not use most touch screen devices without using a lot of pressure.

You are correct, I don't have your condition and don't know how it reacts for you. I do not think that you are lying when you say that it works better for you when your fingers are moist.

What I commented on what the statement you made where you said "Because touch screens do not react well with super dry skin". That it 100% false. I think that there is another reason why it doesn't work for you.

The touch screen has nothing to do with moisture, body heat and temperature. That is the fact.

I've just put on some nitrile gloves and can still navigate very well. I've simulated a situation where my fingertips are in the same or worse condition than yours.

Either way I will end this as I don't want to destroy your thread or turn this into something negative.

zepsamsung · #8 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 03:07 PM

YOU know tour right a touch screen that covered most of the front surface area would be great.

j_j · #9 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 03:21 PM

the touch pro2 has alot hardware keys: a keyboard of them;
the pro2 has a sleeker design than pro; how are they moving backward?

**ou2mame** · #10 (**permalink**) 05-26-2009, 03:34 PM

this is not the type of phone you bring hiking with you. actually, its the type of phone you bring to the office with you. these phones are for professionals, and people who need technology. get a netbook? why carry two devices? i got the tp so i don't have to lug my laptop around to work on excel docs and ftp docs. backwards? i have all the basic functionality of a notebook in my pocket, which a phone built into it as well. thats not backwards, thats extremely forward.

i mean, if you don't like it, don't get it. but its not obsolete technology, you're just looking at it like its a phone or something. its not a phone, its a pda with a cellular network capabilities. if you need a "phone", get a "phone". the people who buy these need more than just a phone. they still make small and capable phones, and i don't think thats going to end anytime soon so there's nothing to worry about.

i don't understand the need for sweat on a touch screen... the stylus is just plastic? but i dunno, i'm not an expert in that area. I understand the touch sensitive buttons like call and end not working though, that makes sense. and trust me, atm screens don't work for anybody lol

i don't know what you're looking for either... i don't get the point of this thread. if you want a smartphone that has buttons, look at the palms. if you want one that doesn't, try htc? you want a pda phone that has a number pad? just open the phone, there's buttons right there. but yeah, if you broke the screen the phone prob wouldn't work, but then again, you probably shouldn't be bringing a touch screen phone into the woods if you plan on being so far away, and alone, that it could possibly be the end of your life if it broke. i don't even bring this phone to the beach, nevermind mountain climbing.