Why does everyone hate the iphone?

[breakmyfootoff]

Originally Posted by drift365

we keep saying that, but we still havnt decided what capabilities. We have listed a whole bunch of things people THINK it cant do, and things that it doesnt do well, ie multitasking. Again I ask, what capabilities?

Good god man! We have established many many times what it can not do! I can only conclude that you're in a deep state of denial at this point. Since you seem to have selectively blocked out most of the previous posts you have read let me list those things for you AGAIN!

1 Multitasking. You can talk about backgrounder all you want, it does not give the iphone multitasking abilities. This is something that you THINK it can do which is incorrect. I've seen it in action and you have admitted yourself that you have not used it. Backgrounder only works for a limited selection of apps and doesnt even work consistently with those.

2. Spare battery? Nope

3. Tethering and MMS? Yes, but only if you want to run the risk of having your service canceled by ATT and owing them the remainder.

4. Multiple UI's? Nope

5. Flash Support? Nope. Wanna preview hotel rooms at the Mandalay Bay using their virtual walkthrough, too bad iphone users, just one of the millions of sites that require flash player to interact with or even view the site. Have fun with your watered down internet experience.

6. WVGA screen? Nope, HVGA = Lose

7. Choice of carriers? Nope. Apple will just stick with pretty much the worst service provider with the crappiest coverage. It should be ok though, they can rely on advertising and lack of consumer intelligence to sell units.

For future reference I can link you back to this post when you once again ask for confirmation of the things the iphone can not do. At least the iphone does have the app store in its favor. Who couldnt use 65,000 useless apps like fart noise makers and magic 8 ball's lol.

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by breakmyfootoff

Good god man! We have established many many times what it can not do! I can only conclude that you're in a deep state of denial at this point. Since you seem to have selectively blocked out most of the previous posts you have read let me list those things for you AGAIN!

1 Multitasking. You can talk about backgrounder all you want, it does not give the iphone multitasking abilities. This is something that you THINK it can do which is incorrect. I've seen it in action and you have admitted yourself that you have not used it. Backgrounder only works for a limited selection of apps and doesnt even work consistently with those.

2. Spare battery? Nope

3. Tethering and MMS? Yes, but only if you want to run the risk of having your service canceled by ATT and owing them the remainder.

4. Multiple UI's? Nope

5. Flash Support? Nope. Wanna preview hotel rooms at the Mandalay Bay using their virtual walkthrough, too bad iphone users, just one of the millions of sites that require flash player to interact with or even view the site. Have fun with your watered down internet experience.

6. WVGA screen? Nope, HVGA = Lose

7. Choice of carriers? Nope. Apple will just stick with pretty much the worst service provider with the crappiest coverage. It should be ok though, they can rely on advertising and lack of consumer intelligence to sell units.

For future reference I can link you back to this post when you once again ask for confirmation of the things the iphone can not do. At least the iphone does have the app store in its favor. Who couldnt use 65,000 useless apps like fart noise makers and magic 8 ball's lol.

Watch this guys. He could not answer my questions correctly.
1. Multi tasking. How do U multi task on ur phone?
2. Do U know that there is a juice pack for Iphones?
3. Prove this claim here.
4. UI? or themes? Does it make ur phone perform better? or U just change the wa U navigate? That is simply a Launcher.
5. What Browser on ur phone has flash support?
6.all the apps rely on the original resolution.
7.eventually the exclusivity will end.
U forgot to put on ur list.
8. Iphone's powerful GPU. Can U name a device that can match Iphones GPU?
9. Augmented reality.

[bigsexyy81]

Originally Posted by breakmyfootoff

Good god man! We have established many many times what it can not do! I can only conclude that you're in a deep state of denial at this point. Since you seem to have selectively blocked out most of the previous posts you have read let me list those things for you AGAIN!

1 Multitasking. You can talk about backgrounder all you want, it does not give the iphone multitasking abilities. This is something that you THINK it can do which is incorrect. I've seen it in action and you have admitted yourself that you have not used it. Backgrounder only works for a limited selection of apps and doesnt even work consistently with those.

2. Spare battery? Nope

3. Tethering and MMS? Yes, but only if you want to run the risk of having your service canceled by ATT and owing them the remainder.

4. Multiple UI's? Nope

5. Flash Support? Nope. Wanna preview hotel rooms at the Mandalay Bay using their virtual walkthrough, too bad iphone users, just one of the millions of sites that require flash player to interact with or even view the site. Have fun with your watered down internet experience.

6. WVGA screen? Nope, HVGA = Lose

7. Choice of carriers? Nope. Apple will just stick with pretty much the worst service provider with the crappiest coverage. It should be ok though, they can rely on advertising and lack of consumer intelligence to sell units.

For future reference I can link you back to this post when you once again ask for confirmation of the things the iphone can not do. At least the iphone does have the app store in its favor. Who couldnt use 65,000 useless apps like fart noise makers and magic 8 ball's lol.

1. Somewhat annoying, yes. But it does keep multiple tabs open in Safari at one time which is the biggest thing, IMO. It really is an exaggerated issue by WM users. All of that multitasking on PPCs slows it down as well as kills the battery. You can argue it all you want, but those savvy with PPCs know exactly how to get to their Task Manager quickly to kill apps. That was almost as annoying as not having multitasking.

2. http://www.mophie.com/juice-pack-air...a-ip3g-blk.htm And there are many other options out there as well. (Please dont come back with 'well that makes it all bulky!'. It can also be used as a case, and plenty of extended life batteries for PPCs are huge as well.)

3. MMS already out, tethering just a matter of time.And I might add, the MMS integration into Text conversations is very sweet.

4. Lol. When it is as seemless as the iPhone is, you don't give a rats a$$ for multiple UIs.

5. I can't preview hotel rooms! Brutal! How many PPCs don't have Flash? I don't really miss it much.

6. Lol again, how many PPCs have WVGA screens? Very few. The iPhone's screen looks incredible. It's big, crisp, and some of the apps look phenomenal.

7. You have a point. But everyone hates different carriers for different reasons. I hated Sprint because their phones were ****. And their customer service was t-e-r-r-i-b-l-e. I'm not a fan of AT&T by any means but have had good luck with them so far. Keeping fingers crossed.


Let's jump on over to what sucks about PPCs...

1. Buggy. You're lucky if you don't have to soft reset your phone once a week let alone once a day. Don't even try to lie, I was using different variations of them for six years before I switched.

2. Apps. Windows might catch up down the road. We'll see.

3. Just not as fun. Plain and simple. Both platforms offer relatively the same things, just one is a blast to play around with and one was relatively boring.


WM devices are great. I really enjoyed the HTC 8125, Treo 700WX, and HTC Touch Pro. Defintely, the customization factor is cool.

That said, the iPhone is so smooth and so appealing. I have a blast on this thing. It has it's limitations like every cell phone does, but for what you get, it can not be beat. And that of course is my humble opinion.

Note: I have the $59.99 minute plan with $30 data and $20 SMS, and I get 900 anytime minutes combined with ATT's version of 'fave 5' which gives you 10 numbers you can call as much as you want.. $109.99. $10 more than Sprint's Unlimited plan. And I paid $99 for an iPhone 3G.

[Noir]

1. Buggy. You're lucky if you don't have to soft reset your phone once a week let alone once a day. Don't even try to lie, I was using different variations of them for six years before I switched.

on my sprint touch pro/alltel touch pro and on my verizon touch pro 2, I've gone 2 weeks without a soft reset or a clean ram...surprisingly with the latter a stock rom. I have to say that is amazing!

2. Apps. Windows might catch up down the road. We'll see.

applications - 3rd party software that can enhance the experience on a pocket pc...uhm...
windows has had cabs for years and considering that windows mobile has established 3rd party manufacturers and developers that produce cabs daily, windows is doing very well.

granted, we may never see a that's what she said app, but I'll take a throttle launcher, pocket player, coreplayer, tcpmp, iris browser, dorothy browser, opera browser, bolt browser, adobe photoshop mobile, and a panoply of others. Form fit function; windows doesn't have many joke apps granted but it has apps that enhance the user experience...isn't that more important? I mean heck iphone has been out for 3 years and you still have the SAME browser for it...wtf!?

3. Just not as fun. Plain and simple. Both platforms offer relatively the same things, just one is a blast to play around with and one was relatively boring.

this is just personal opinion, but have you seen my iphone boredom thread? I find it completely boring! And I do have the "fun" games and I am absolutely annoyed and bored. Primarily this is due to the on screen everything. Movement in games sucks, control of games sucks, emulation of games isn't that much better...

I think we gravely disagree on what we consider fun. I will say apple had my interest with zenonia, but now its out on windows mobile and now the iphone continues to collect dust

And yes I have an iphone I hate it! It will be my friend's gift in november

[breakmyfootoff]

Originally Posted by bigsexyy81

1. Somewhat annoying, yes. But it does keep multiple tabs open in Safari at one time which is the biggest thing, IMO. It really is an exaggerated issue by WM users. All of that multitasking on PPCs slows it down as well as kills the battery. You can argue it all you want, but those savvy with PPCs know exactly how to get to their Task Manager quickly to kill apps. That was almost as annoying as not having multitasking.

I do know how to get to the task manager to close apps, and I love having the option to end the programs when I want them to end instead of having to close them to check something else. I've opened task manager on occasion and had as many as 9 programs running at once and still have 30% memory left.

Originally Posted by bigsexyy81

2. http://www.mophie.com/juice-pack-air...a-ip3g-blk.htm And there are many other options out there as well. (Please dont come back with 'well that makes it all bulky!'. It can also be used as a case, and plenty of extended life batteries for PPCs are huge as well.)

Some of the extended life batteries for PPCs are quite large, those are the ones that nobody buys lol.

Originally Posted by bigsexyy81

3. MMS already out, tethering just a matter of time.And I might add, the MMS integration into Text conversations is very sweet.

I made that post BEFORE they made MMS available on the iPhone, but to be fair, the iPhone does have MMS now. Welcome to 1998.

Originally Posted by bigsexyy81

4. Lol. When it is as seemless as the iPhone is, you don't give a rats a$$ for multiple UIs.

Really? If you like companies making your choices for you thats fine, but I prefer to have options. I cant argue the fact that the iPhones entire OS is seamless, because you would have to have something with more than one piece to even have a seam lol. The iphones OS is basically just an app launcher. Ultimate Launch, which is just one available application on WM, is basically the same as the whole iPhone UI.

Originally Posted by bigsexyy81

5. I can't preview hotel rooms! Brutal! How many PPCs don't have Flash? I don't really miss it much.

Thats really a pretty weak rebuttal, if you can even call that a rebuttal. At the time I posted that, that was just the most recent example I had experienced so I mentioned it. Just earlier today I was trying to show someone a clip from collegehumor.com on his iPhone but all that was available was the little blue lego block, so I had to show him the clip on my Vogue. I'll go ahead and be specific for you and mention that these are NOT the only 2 things that you cant view online with an iPhone, there are an infinite number of sites that rely on flash. Ya. Brutal.

Originally Posted by bigsexyy81

6. Lol again, how many PPCs have WVGA screens? Very few. The iPhone's screen looks incredible. It's big, crisp, and some of the apps look phenomenal.

How many PPC's have WVGA? Pretty much every WM phone being released now lol (TP2, Imagio,Omnia2,OmniaPro,HD2, and probably some others I'm forgetting)

Originally Posted by bigsexyy81

Let's jump on over to what sucks about PPCs...

1. Buggy. You're lucky if you don't have to soft reset your phone once a week let alone once a day. Don't even try to lie, I was using different variations of them for six years before I switched.

2. Apps. Windows might catch up down the road. We'll see.

3. Just not as fun. Plain and simple. Both platforms offer relatively the same things, just one is a blast to play around with and one was relatively boring.

I have to agree on all of those, especially on the iPhone being relatively boring

[bikeandestroyx]

Iphone is pretty customizable too, not nearly as much as a ppc, but at least you can change things,i have an ipod touch and i love it. Jailbreaking it dling apps changing themes etc. Honestly it seems like people on this forum like to bash the iphone to be cool or fit in... itouch/iphones are pretty good, especially if you dont have time to be on ppcgeeks all day tweaking your phone and upgrading constantly. To all you who say iphones are only good jailbroken... um im pretty sure windows mobile is all about unlocking and flashing custom roms, which is basically jailbreaking and updating the OS. The screen on the iphone isnt nearly as nice, but glass is much nicer to use than the plastic on our resistive screens. We would be stuck with the same old windows today screen if it wasnt for the iphone setting high standards. Its true its just an app launcher, but it works great, there are tons of great apps/games. The browser is amazing also, i hate using my diamond browser now its so much more of a pain.
I would never use an iphone though, i get bored to quick when things are the same, thats why i like wm, i switch between titanium manila, 6.5 builds, apps, etc. Not everyone has the time to tweak windows mobile to be great like us. People really need to stop flaming, why do we have so many apps that imitate the iphone if it is a horrible phone, why does everyone have one?

[codybear]

Originally Posted by bikeandestroyx

Iphone is pretty customizable too, not nearly as much as a ppc, but at least you can change things,i have an ipod touch and i love it. Jailbreaking it dling apps changing themes etc. Honestly it seems like people on this forum like to bash the iphone to be cool or fit in... itouch/iphones are pretty good, especially if you dont have time to be on ppcgeeks all day tweaking your phone and upgrading constantly. To all you who say iphones are only good jailbroken... um im pretty sure windows mobile is all about unlocking and flashing custom roms, which is basically jailbreaking and updating the OS. The screen on the iphone isnt nearly as nice, but glass is much nicer to use than the plastic on our resistive screens. We would be stuck with the same old windows today screen if it wasnt for the iphone setting high standards. Its true its just an app launcher, but it works great, there are tons of great apps/games. The browser is amazing also, i hate using my diamond browser now its so much more of a pain.
I would never use an iphone though, i get bored to quick when things are the same, thats why i like wm, i switch between titanium manila, 6.5 builds, apps, etc. Not everyone has the time to tweak windows mobile to be great like us. People really need to stop flaming, why do we have so many apps that imitate the iphone if it is a horrible phone, why does everyone have one?

lol, only if you jailbreak it, then it's going to be alright for the first 30 or so minutes.
But have fun because the newer ones that are coming out, with the new mandated OS upgrade is rumored to block the jailbreaking trend from continuing.

@OP. I do not hate the iphone at all, what i do hate is the fact that its been put so high up on a pedestal that any touch screen phone will no doubt be confused for an iphone one way or another. The fanboys that choose to be ignorant to the rest of the tech world and blindly believe that its the best thing ever made. I give credit where its due but i refuse to be a sheep to great advertizing on a overhyped product. it reminds me of a moto razr since basically everyone has one, it stops being a luxury to own one anymore. I hate to have what everyone has already...

[bikeandestroyx]

Originally Posted by codybear

lol, only if you jailbreak it, then it's going to be alright for the first 30 or so minutes.
But have fun because the newer ones that are coming out, with the new mandated OS upgrade is rumored to block the jailbreaking trend from continuing.

They cant really force you to update, especially with an itouch. Jailbreaking is just like HSPLing an HTC phone. Have you actually used an iphone or ipod touch for 30 minutes? I dont get bored with mine, i use mine for music games and browsing, what it was meant for, and its solid.