Consumer Reports: iPhone 4 = Design Flaw

[gTen]

Originally Posted by orangekid

Right on,

I'm sitting at a desk right now with an iPhone 3G and an HD2 running a very stable build of Android 2.1 alongside an awesome 6.5 ROM with cookies home layout and some really amazing titanium tweaks.

I will soon have a Samsung Vibrant (which actually schools HTC phones cuz of the Hummingbird awesomeness and super AMOLED display) 4" baby! gonna root that bad boy and throw up a sweet 2.2 Nexus build on there.

I'm just a tech junkie lol.

If your getting a Vibrant on the 15th..we are gonna have to milk you for information in the Galaxy S forum...but I don't think you can put a 2.2 rom on it yet..only custom 2.1 :/

[orangekid]

Originally Posted by gTen

If your getting a Vibrant on the 15th..we are gonna have to milk you for information in the Galaxy S forum...but I don't think you can put a 2.2 rom on it yet..only custom 2.1 :/

yeah I'm gonna grab one from the store tomorrow. I'll give a somewhat detailed review. I am SO GLAD the tmobile version doesn't have a hardware keyboard, IMO that totally ruins the phone. But this phone looks so sexy I cannot wait to use it.

I don't have to have froyo right now, I can rock some custom 2.1 roms till they get it fully ported.

[Biggzz]

Originally Posted by orangekid

yeah I'm gonna grab one from the store tomorrow. I'll give a somewhat detailed review. I am SO GLAD the tmobile version doesn't have a hardware keyboard, IMO that totally ruins the phone. But this phone looks so sexy I cannot wait to use it.

I don't have to have froyo right now, I can rock some custom 2.1 roms till they get it fully ported.

I'd be interested although the Vibrant itself doesn't appeal to me.

[ace741]

Last thing I'll say is this. When the first news came of the first Iphone, I was thrilled. I was sooo excited and was planning on getting it no matter what. But when I read through the specs and saw that it only operated on ATTs edge network, it had me confused. They are coming out with this powerhouse of a phone and it doesn't run on 3G? Doesn't have MMS either? And I remember Apples response, which I think was Steve Jobs. "Well, not having 3G is not a big issue cause there are so many WI-FI hotspots you really don't need it" . Which was far from the truth. Oh yeah, and ATT's plans were ridiculously higher than Sprints. I just could not bring myself to pay significantly more for a phone that to me had significant features missing. I'm not going to deny it does some great things, but yeah I'll say it, I do not like the way Apple tries to convince people what they think they need and don't need and how they try to hide the truth.

[NIKKG]

Originally Posted by ace741

Last thing I'll say is this. When the first news came of the first Iphone, I was thrilled. I was sooo excited and was planning on getting it no matter what. But when I read through the specs and saw that it only operated on ATTs edge network, it had me confused. They are coming out with this powerhouse of a phone and it doesn't run on 3G? Doesn't have MMS either? And I remember Apples response, which I think was Steve Jobs. "Well, not having 3G is not a big issue cause there are so many WI-FI hotspots you really don't need it" . Which was far from the truth. Oh yeah, and ATT's plans were ridiculously higher than Sprints. I just could not bring myself to pay significantly more for a phone that to me had significant features missing. I'm not going to deny it does some great things, but yeah I'll say it, I do not like the way Apple tries to convince people what they think they need and don't need and how they try to hide the truth.

Nothing wrong with hating Apple, I hate them more than anyone, I always hated that company. I hate Macs especially and the suckers who spend over 2000 on a laptop you can buy with similar specs for 500. I also hated how they try to control the iphone and won't let you unlock it even though you own it. I think their one the most crooked companies out there. I hope the lawsuit against them for not unlocking the iphone wins and teaches them a lesson.

However, I still like the iphone, its still a fantastic device, too bad the company itself is arrogant being run by some jerk. Google is no better either, they are starting to get arrogant too and have way too much info on people. I guess any company that gets too large becomes like that, just look at Verizon for a perfect example.

[testacon]

Originally Posted by NIKKG

Nothing wrong with hating Apple, I hate them more than anyone, I always hated that company. I hate Macs especially and the suckers who spend over 2000 on a laptop you can buy with similar specs for 500. I also hated how they try to control the iphone and won't let you unlock it even though you own it. I think their one the most crooked companies out there. I hope the lawsuit against them for not unlocking the iphone wins and teaches them a lesson.

However, I still like the iphone, its still a fantastic device, too bad the company itself is arrogant being run by some jerk. Google is no better either, they are starting to get arrogant too and have way too much info on people. I guess any company that gets too large becomes like that, just look at Verizon for a perfect example.

+1

I think that Google is slightly better because they don't lock down their phones or censor apps abusively like Apple does. The only app Google killed so far was one for legal reasons, I'd delete something as well before I let myself get sued too. I can live with the lack of privacy (lessor of the two evils), because I have little to hide, I can't stand Apple and it's app store dictatorship. Forget about it using the iPhone in a truly profession sense, neat toy though or semi-smart phone, excellent piece of hardware (barring the recent antenna problems)...

[NIKKG]

Originally Posted by testacon

+1

I think that Google is slightly better because they don't lock down their phones or censor apps abusively like Apple does. The only app Google killed so far was one for legal reasons, I'd delete something as well before I let myself get sued too. I can live with the lack of privacy (lessor of the two evils), because I have little to hide, I can't stand Apple and it's app store dictatorship. Forget about it using the iPhone in a truly profession sense, neat toy though or semi-smart phone, excellent piece of hardware (barring the recent antenna problems)...

Exactly why is it bad in a professional sense? It syncs up my outlook email, contacts, and most importantly, my calendar for meetings. You can also sync your gmail contacts if you want to. Its just like being on my old WinMo phone. To call it semi-smart phone makes no sense, its done everything I've wanted to do seamlessly and easily. I don't even care to jailbreak it to be honest. If I did, the only reason would be to get free tethering. I've been more than happy with my purchase.

[testacon]

Originally Posted by NIKKG

Exactly why is it bad in a professional sense? It syncs up my outlook email, contacts, and most importantly, my calendar for meetings. You can also sync your gmail contacts if you want to. Its just like being on my old WinMo phone. To call it semi-smart phone makes no sense, its done everything I've wanted to do seamlessly and easily. I don't even care to jailbreak it to be honest. If I did, the only reason would be to get free tethering. I've been more than happy with my purchase.

What profession are you in? I run an I.T. department for a small 2 year college. When I'm troubleshooting wifi issues for example, I pull out my mogul turn on wififofum and check signal levels and what surrounding channels are possibly causing conflicts. Lord Jobs rejected the app on the iPhone as well as any other useful I.T. apps that might have a side purpose in the underworld. When I need a customized app for my I.T. department I can contract a developer on WM6.x to make it and implement it without Microsoft's permission, well at least until WP7 that is. Jobs will more then likely deny any and all useful apps. Not very professional for my profession. Email is great to have on a cell phone but that alone doesn't make it a smart device. The hardware has the ability, IF Apple allows it but in its current state it's more or less a power toy for people like me and my organization.

Companies aren't going to spend any time and money developing custom apps for their employees if there is any chance that Apple is going to deny them. I think we paid about $30,000 for one of the apps our admissions department uses, image what would have happened to my job if Apple rejected it. We have about 200 smartphones in our organization, due to Apple's dictatorship rules I can never recommend a phone that we can't even control ourselves. Apple won't even allow us an app that is individually approved by a enterprise level customer.

Android seems to be the next logical phone OS that can be customized in the amount of detail that I.T. professionals need. I'm glad that the iPhone works for you but in Fortune 500 type companies, it's either a Blackberry or Windows Mobile (for now) and soon to be Android type phones.

[orangekid]

^ dude you kinda made sense until you started talking about blackberries...

[testacon]

Originally Posted by orangekid

^ dude you kinda made sense until you started talking about blackberries...

I personally don't like Blackberry's but I can't deny their popularity in the business world. Of the 5 friends that I know that work in Fortune 500 companies they all use Blackberry's not iPhones, WM or Android OS's. I refuse to pay for the server that's needed to manage those devices and right now WM 6.x is meeting our needs for our limited budget. I will say though that they are highly customizable devices and meet or exceeds most business needs and also remember that the Secret Service certified a Blackberry for President Obama. No other phone vendor can say that their phone is that secured as of yet. So you gotta give it some props...