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Old 11-16-2009, 08:25 PM
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Re: RhodiumW CDMA Worldphone HardSPL Unlocker Release

This "licensing" SPL unlocking process is very flawed and bordering on SHADY.

I got a replacement phone today, after successfully re-locking my original phone. I got the replacement phone home, went on my desktop, and went to install HSPL, of course got the message that I had already unlocked a phone. Sure... I did, but I relocked it. That's fine, so flag my IP address and/or unique identifier for my workstation, again fine.

Now here is what is NOT fine. I hooked the replacement phone up to my laptop, connected on my neighbor's wireless lan (with permission), and STILL can't install HSPL. So different computer, different WAN IP address... what could have been flagged by their "licensing" system?

So I took my phone to a client's office and went for attempt #3... new computer, new wan ip, new isp, pc STILL showing that I had already unlocked a phone.

Conclusion: Once I tried to install HSPL on my replacement phone from a PC that had already unlocked my previous phone, the "licensing" system has FLAGGED the IMEI of my NEW phone, and will not allow it to be unlocked without paying for it; or submitting a ticket and WAITING.

My thoughts: We have been allowed to operate in this legally gray area for years, doing things such as HSPL and ROM cooking. I believe this new for-profit "enterprise" of OliPro and cmonex is going to be the beginning of the end for such behavior...

How long till we need an unlocker for the unlocker?

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Old 11-16-2009, 09:15 PM
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Re: RhodiumW CDMA Worldphone HardSPL Unlocker Release

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Guys please, I implore you: relax. Olipro and Cmonex have been really busy as of late. I'm sure that this is unintentional and there is simply something wrong with their setup. They have put hundreds of hours into making this community a better place for us and helping us with our phones so please cut them a little slack. If you are getting the message that you have already used the program then follow the instructions in the first 2 posts of the thread and all will be resolved in due time!
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This "licensing" SPL unlocking process is very flawed and bordering on SHADY.

I got a replacement phone today, after successfully re-locking my original phone. I got the replacement phone home, went on my desktop, and went to install HSPL, of course got the message that I had already unlocked a phone. Sure... I did, but I relocked it. That's fine, so flag my IP address and/or unique identifier for my workstation, again fine.

Now here is what is NOT fine. I hooked the replacement phone up to my laptop, connected on my neighbor's wireless lan (with permission), and STILL can't install HSPL. So different computer, different WAN IP address... what could have been flagged by their "licensing" system?

So I took my phone to a client's office and went for attempt #3... new computer, new wan ip, new isp, pc STILL showing that I had already unlocked a phone.

Conclusion: Once I tried to install HSPL on my replacement phone from a PC that had already unlocked my previous phone, the "licensing" system has FLAGGED the IMEI of my NEW phone, and will not allow it to be unlocked without paying for it; or submitting a ticket and WAITING.

My thoughts: We have been allowed to operate in this legally gray area for years, doing things such as HSPL and ROM cooking. I believe this new for-profit "enterprise" of OliPro and cmonex is going to be the beginning of the end for such behavior...

How long till we need an unlocker for the unlocker?
Wow you went from one extreme to the other....if you have an issue with the process my suggestion is maybe you want to start working on your own release of an un-locker....
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Old 11-16-2009, 09:52 PM
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Re: RhodiumW CDMA Worldphone HardSPL Unlocker Release

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Wow you went from one extreme to the other....if you have an issue with the process my suggestion is maybe you want to start working on your own release of an un-locker....
...and you might want to start working on your reading comprehension. The first two posts are not from me.

In all seriousness, the answer to all gripes related to this process is NOT "if you don't like it, make your own". I do NOT like the fact that my IMEI was flagged until payment was received and/or I waited an undisclosed amount of time for my new phone to be unflagged.

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Re: RhodiumW CDMA Worldphone HardSPL Unlocker Release

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...and you might want to start working on your reading comprehension. The first two posts are not from me.

In all seriousness, the answer to all gripes related to this process is NOT "if you don't like it, make your own"

comprehension is fine....overlooking may be an issue along with fatigue....anyway your right...lol...sorry just glanced and it looked the same....

have you tried to contact them...it is in the first post on how that issue is addressed...I just have seen so many of the same posts in here....the answers to these problems are in the OP posts 1 and 2...
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Re: RhodiumW CDMA Worldphone HardSPL Unlocker Release

same thing happened to me. i've unlocked only two phones. Two different phones, but because it was from the same IP address at my office, it got flagged. Paid twice...even though they were personal. Had a replacement phone come in, same error again, so paid for it again. So far i've paid 3 times.. and yes...these are personal phones.

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...and you might want to start working on your reading comprehension. The first two posts are not from me.

In all seriousness, the answer to all gripes related to this process is NOT "if you don't like it, make your own". I do NOT like the fact that my IMEI was flagged until payment was received and/or I waited an undisclosed amount of time for my new phone to be unflagged.
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comprehension is fine....overlooking may be an issue along with fatigue....anyway your right...lol...sorry just glanced and it looked the same....

have you tried to contact them...it is in the first post on how that issue is addressed...I just have seen so many of the same posts in here....the answers to these problems are in the OP posts 1 and 2...
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Re: RhodiumW CDMA Worldphone HardSPL Unlocker Release

Although I had previously sim unlocked through a private seller many months ago; I made sure to donate to the team to motivate the hardspl;

I have only recently started using the TP2 and love the Might ROM; thanks to the team for making this HARDSPL available!!

I may want to give a TP2 as a Christmas gift for someone; can i do the automatic donate (same computer) or do i need to change computers (since i read phone IMEI are flagged per computer?)

thks once again for your hard work!!

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Re: RhodiumW CDMA Worldphone HardSPL Unlocker Release

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This "licensing" SPL unlocking process is very flawed and bordering on SHADY.

I got a replacement phone today, after successfully re-locking my original phone. I got the replacement phone home, went on my desktop, and went to install HSPL, of course got the message that I had already unlocked a phone. Sure... I did, but I relocked it. That's fine, so flag my IP address and/or unique identifier for my workstation, again fine.

Now here is what is NOT fine. I hooked the replacement phone up to my laptop, connected on my neighbor's wireless lan (with permission), and STILL can't install HSPL. So different computer, different WAN IP address... what could have been flagged by their "licensing" system?

So I took my phone to a client's office and went for attempt #3... new computer, new wan ip, new isp, pc STILL showing that I had already unlocked a phone.

Conclusion: Once I tried to install HSPL on my replacement phone from a PC that had already unlocked my previous phone, the "licensing" system has FLAGGED the IMEI of my NEW phone, and will not allow it to be unlocked without paying for it; or submitting a ticket and WAITING.

My thoughts: We have been allowed to operate in this legally gray area for years, doing things such as HSPL and ROM cooking. I believe this new for-profit "enterprise" of OliPro and cmonex is going to be the beginning of the end for such behavior...

How long till we need an unlocker for the unlocker?
Yeah, sadly software protection often backfires for those who even use it legitimately (how many people who bought valid winXP computers got those "your version of windows may have been pirated" erros?).

The system does appear to be somewhat flawed. I myself had to submit a ticket after getting my TP2 this week. Its sort of anti-climactic to be exited about flashing only to hit a brick wall due to a technicality beyond your control.

I respect their right to protect their intellectual property, however I would like to cast my opinion that unnecessarily frustrating potential donators may be causing more trouble than its worth.
Is it too bold to say that such security is only a good idea if it works?
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