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[hamidxa]

Originally Posted by rootlinux

I agree with all that.
Just not sure mapping taskmgr is that much better than the stock mapped task manager options.
It is the same app but depending on how it is opened it offers different options.

By default task manager in WinMo, I'm assuming you mean this one:


taskmgr however (the oft forgotten about task manager) is nothing like the above one:


In terms of finger-friendliness of course -- there's a night and day difference between the 2.

taskmgr is essentially much like Showcase as far as finger-friendliness goes, but without all of the quirks that makes Showcase frustrating to use at times.


Also once more, the RAM consumption on taskmgr is between 150-170K.
It does NOT go above that, and CPU usage while running it throttles between 0-1%, it only spiked to 6-7% the very moment the screenshot was taken, then went back down to 0-1%

I just want to make it absolutely clear that it does NOT use 1MB of RAM, that's the other one.


taskmgr only uses between 150-170K even if it's mapped (as mine happens to be), so it's very Verizon-friendly.

[rootlinux]

Originally Posted by hamidxa

By default task manager in WinMo, I'm assuming you mean this one:


taskmgr however (the oft forgotten about task manager) is nothing like the above one:


In terms of finger-friendliness of course -- there's a night and day difference between the 2.

taskmgr is essentially much like Showcase as far as finger-friendliness goes, but without all of the quirks that makes Showcase frustrating to use at times.


Also once more, the RAM consumption on taskmgr is between 150-170K.
It does NOT go above that, and CPU usage while running it throttles between 0-1%, it only spiked to 6-7% the very moment the screenshot was taken, then went back down to 0-1%

I just want to make it absolutely clear that it does NOT use 1MB of RAM, that's the other one.


taskmgr only uses between 150-170K even if it's mapped (as mine happens to be), so it's very Verizon-friendly.

There are three.
We have the dotTaskMgr, taskmgr and PHM Task Manager.

The one you have posted pics is the dotTaskMgr.

PHM Task Manager opens with the reg editor and has more options still.

While the two posted do look the same they are using different processes.
The first time I tried the one you use I did indeed have 1 meg in use with it.
After reset in started with 540k and dropped lower.

So while you may be correct on the ram usage it still doesn't make much since to do all those steps just to have a few more options.
The default will close apps and view apps and processes.
Why is there a need to go through all the extra steps?

All you really had to do was change the long key to Task Manager instead of making the shortcut and all those steps.
TaskMgr is the default task manager for WM BTW. It is version 3.1
I have gone between both with the long key and tested them all.

Again there is no need to make a shortcut for an app that is already in the windows folder and already on the long key press list.
That just complicates it more for people.
Just choose it from the list and there ya go.

I am not going to argue.
If you like it and want to go through all the needless steps feel free.

[hamidxa]

Rebuttal to follow.

[hamidxa]

Originally Posted by rootlinux

There are three.
We have the dotTaskMgr, taskmgr and PHM Task Manager.

The one you have posted pics is the dotTaskMgr.

PHM Task Manager opens with the reg editor and has more options still.

No it's not.

I've configured it that way.

That's the "default" taskmanager that comes with this ROM.

All you have to do is go to:

Menu -> Options -> Tabs and Buttons -> select whatever tabs and options you want.

I purposely deselected ALL of them except for Applications (About tab can not be removed by the way)

See for yourself:



And there goes the regedit too by the way, see.

While the two posted do look the same they are using different processes.
The first time I tried the one you use I did indeed have 1 meg in use with it.
After reset in started with 540k and dropped lower.

I don't have Fred's installed.

So while you may be correct on the ram usage it still doesn't make much since to do all those steps just to have a few more options.
The default will close apps and view apps and processes.
Why is there a need to go through all the extra steps?

It does make sense.

The default one quite frankly SUCKS.

It's all about ease of use, and quite frankly, if your fingers are so small (not that mine are large by any means, Im 6' tall and 160lbs to give you an idea), then perhaps its not a problem for you.

But most of us prefer something that is more finger friendly Im sure, and the problem with the dotTaskManager (aka FdcSoft TaskMgr aka Freds) is the fact that it's made with a stylus in mind, and I don't like having to take the tip of my finger with its non-existing nails, and trying my best to be steady while clicking on a process.

That takes all of the fun out of multi-tasking.

taskmgr on the other hand poses no such problems

All you really had to do was change the long key to Task Manager instead of making the shortcut and all those steps.

That does not work.

It doesn't associate it with the right task manager that way.

Try it for yourself.

It opens up, this one:


Besides,
My method really takes little more than 30 seconds, and after you set it, you forget it.

TaskMgr is the default task manager for WM BTW. It is version 3.1
I have gone between both with the long key and tested them all.

Which is exactly what I have here:


It just looks different than yours because as I explained and outlined above, I removed all of the superfluous tabs.

Once again, try it for yourself, you will see what I mean.

Again there is no need to make a shortcut for an app that is already in the windows folder and already on the long key press list.

If taskmgr is NOT in the \Start Menu\Programs folder, then it will NOT appear in the buttons shortcut list unless you put taskmgr there.

I guarantee you this 100%

Try it for yourself once more.
I just did by removing the shortcut from \Start Menu\Programs, and what do you know, it's not longer in the buttons list.

I then put the shortcut back where it belonged, and taskmgr once more appears in the programmable buttons list.

That just complicates it more for people.
Just choose it from the list and there ya go.

Sorry, but you are wrong again.

I am not going to argue.
If you like it and want to go through all the needless steps feel free.

There's nothing needless about it, you just happen to be wrong about everything in this post my friend.

[hamidxa]

As further proof to demonstrate that everything I've said is 100% accurate and that you were incorrect about your assertions, here's what happens when you remove the 'taskmgr' shortcut from the \Start Menu\Programs folder.




Here's what happens when you put it back:




Everything I've stated really does speak for itself as my posts are substantiated by the screenshots Ive posted.

[rootlinux]

That does not work.

It doesn't associate it with the right task manager that way.

Try it for yourself.

I did it and it DOES work friend.
I do not have it in my Start Menu/Programs still.
Not there!

I can choose either of the two task managers and they will change depending on the one I want.

There's nothing needless about it, you just happen to be wrong about everything in this post my friend

I hate to be an azz but your are a nut!
You just want to argue about a task manager then argue away my friend.
Your childish claims and rants fall on mute ears.

I am not a noob here and I assure you I have fixed more problems on this device and helped more people than you care to realize.

It doesn't make a diff if you want EVERYONE to think your way is the only way and you are right.
Who cares? No one but you.

I withdraw from your games and move on to the mods and problems I was working on before.

Have a great night.
BTW I am 5'10 and 192lbs ( not fat ) so I do not have small fingers either.

What ever the heck that was all about big guy. :/

Keep this going but it will be by your self.
Good night.

[hamidxa]

Originally Posted by rootlinux

I did it and it DOES work friend.
I do not have it in my Start Menu/Programs still.
Not there!

I can choose either of the two task managers and they will change depending on the one I want.



I hate to be an azz but your are a nut!
You just want to argue about a task manager then argue away my friend.
Your childish claims and rants fall on mute ears.

I am not a noob here and I assure you I have fixed more problems on this device and helped more people than you care to realize.

It doesn't make a diff if you want EVERYONE to think your way is the only way and you are right.
Who cares? No one but you.

I withdraw from your games and move on to the mods and problems I was working on before.

Have a great night.
BTW I am 5'10 and 192lbs ( not fat ) so I do not have small fingers either.

What ever the heck that was all about big guy. :/

Keep this goinf but it will be by your self.
Good night.

I didn't realize that posting screenshots to substantiate all of my claims makes it sophomoric, when it's you that are just making baseless assertions (Yes it is, no it isn't) with absolutely nothing to back it up with.

Every point I made is backed up with proof.

I just don't appreciate it when someone rebuts something I've said that not only I know to be entirely false, but then goes so far as to refuse to acknowledge that he's mistaken even after I've posted legitimate proof corroborating every point I've made thus far.

• Be it the RAM usage you were complaining about earlier (it was never over 1MB, just 150-170K)
• Or the assertion that the taskmanager I was showing was not the right one because it lacked a regedit, all the while failing to realize that perhaps I removed that tab altogether, and then posted a pic that proves as much
• Or the belief that the shortcut is superfluous and not needed when I demonstrated above that removing it has deleterious effects in that it also removes taskmgr from the programmable buttons menu

Just saying nuh-uh and then pinning the blame on me for being sophomoric when I've done nothing but present factual information in a very easy to follow and reproducible manner which is substantiated by screenshots documenting everything, is tantamount to tomfoolery.

That's the last thing I'll say about this.