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superman426 04-09-2009 11:18 AM

WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
for those folks who already have they're roms with wm6.5, Is it actually worth to change it? what is the difference?

MoonZ*BabysH 04-09-2009 11:25 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
YYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS check this one out as it is the fastest out right now probly. Its a Juicy and Mighty Collabo http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=64242

slopokdave 04-09-2009 11:25 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
To me I'm not sure? I don't think I could do without TFLO3D2... so then whats the point of running 6.5?

Maybe if it speeds up the overall sys... But running Juicy's latest I don't really see how it could get faster? :P If you didn't like TFLO3D then I'm sure 6.5 is better than 6.1...

ecker 04-09-2009 11:26 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by superman426 (Post 835977)
for those folks who already have they're roms with wm6.5, Is it actually worth to change it? what is the difference?

i just flashed mighty/juciy copper 6.5 rom... i really like WM6.5.. just a new, fresh look, and is very stable.

i recommend doing it, i mean why not?...?

TurboFool 04-09-2009 11:28 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Personally, yes, I think it was worth it. Despite having typical bugginess of a beta ROM, I haven't been able to switch back to, say, MightyROM 4.16 because I don't want to walk away from the 6.5 stuff. I love the new Today screen (some people don't), finding it notably preferable to TouchFLO3D (both versions), and the finger-scrolling is 10X better. There are minor other things, and I'm about to flash to a newer one which has other improvements.

That said, it is a personal preference. If you like an ultra-stable phone, stick to a 6.1 build for now. 6.5 is surprisingly stable, almost Windows 7-level of surprising for a pre-release, but it still has minor issues that the released versions don't. Also don't switch if you're not up for flashing every few days. I used to do that back in the Titan days, and I got used to it, so it's not that big a deal. You'd be surprised how quickly you get used to bare essentials and figure out how infrequently you use certain apps which you can always just install when you need them. Or you use something like Sushimi to auto-configure your favorite settings for you.

Anyway, I give it a thumbs-up and don't want to go back. Your mileage may vary.

blazin-asian 04-09-2009 01:09 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
what he said ^^

i am going to try out Copper tonight especially after reading all the positive comments in the Copper thread. as for bare essentials, my most frequent used program over the past couple weeks is probably PPCPimBackup lol.

hi, im blazin-asian and im a flashoholic.

mixxy 04-09-2009 01:17 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
yes its worth it, plain n simple

gofawkurself 04-09-2009 01:19 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blazin-asian (Post 836252)
what he said ^^

my most frequent used program over the past couple weeks is probably PPCPimBackup lol.


+1...

Oxymoron238 04-09-2009 01:23 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
I think wm 6.5 is better too. And with Merdin's rom, you can run manila 3D2 on it as well

Chuck_IV 04-09-2009 01:30 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
I honestly don't really think so. It's fluff and not much more. I like TF3D, especially Rhodium, so with that said, there's not much benefit to running 6.5 other than more eye candy and cosmetic differences.

relic419 04-09-2009 01:33 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Yeah, 6.5 is definitely an improvement. Better scrolling and more touch friendly UI. You can use StarROM which has the rhodium TF3D on there. I personally like the new Home screen, which is what I've been using of the past week.

Hafrust 04-09-2009 01:36 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck_IV (Post 836297)
I honestly don't really think so. It's fluff and not much more. I like TF3D, especially Rhodium, so with that said, there's not much benefit to running 6.5 other than more eye candy and cosmetic differences.

That pretty much sums it up. It is nothing groundbreaking by any means. Pretty much just another home screen alternative. I was a bit tired of TF3D, so I'm enjoying the change. I'll probably sport this until spbmobileshell 3 gets released, then after that, who knows...maybe back to TF3D again.

jeffreynew23 04-09-2009 02:27 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
I know that touch flo 3d and wm 6.56 can coexist on the same device but does it make any sense for them to do so. In other words, i love tf3d and want to continue to use it, if i get wm6.5 will i notice a difference in using a devce that has both, like in the selection of programs or simply opening a file.

Hafrust 04-09-2009 02:32 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
You'll just have the newer version of the start menu, that's pretty much it. The 6.5 default home plugin (CHome) can be disabled in start>settings>today>items just like tf3d can. Performance is pretty much the same. It does have an updated version of IE, but you can probably find that elsewhere if you don't want to use Opera.

dan-htc-touch 04-09-2009 02:33 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
build 21500 is fast as hell

bikeandestroyx 04-09-2009 02:46 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slopokdave (Post 835996)
To me I'm not sure? I don't think I could do without TFLO3D2... so then whats the point of running 6.5?

Maybe if it speeds up the overall sys... But running Juicy's latest I don't really see how it could get faster? :P If you didn't like TFLO3D then I'm sure 6.5 is better than 6.1...

you can still install TF3D2 in 6.5 i have it running right now! and it works great

redd214 04-09-2009 02:53 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
yup i got tf3d 2 running on top of 21500 at the moment and this thing is blazin fast!

ace741 04-09-2009 03:17 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
I went from MightyMike's 4.16 to Copper . 6.5 is new and flashy, but I'm having hard time convincing myself that is WAY much better. People say its blazing fast and such, but IMO, MightyMike' 4.16 ROM is fast as well. Considering the daily activities I use my phone for, 6.5 didn't really offer much to make usability easier. Its actually harder cause you have to get used to its differences and find ways to do things quicker like you did in the previous ROM you were using.

I have not been able to find out a way to configure my TF3D on 6.5 ( I tried Starmans too) the way I had it on 6.1 . The Diamond TF3D Config did not work on Starman's ROM. One area I do notice 6.5 is faster on is clicking on Start, Settings. But in all honesty, how many times a week would I be accessing my Settings menu? Whatever settings I change are accessible from TF3D ( Turning On and OFF bluetooth and WI-FI) . If anyone else would like to point out what is faster in 6.5 than 6.1 please do so. Without pulling out my nanosecond stop watch, I do not see a huge speed increase in 6.5

Hafrust 04-09-2009 03:34 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
I think one thing that causes people to think the 6.5 ROM's are so fast is that a lot of them, like the new Mighty/Juicy ROM do not have Manila installed. Without all of those manila files, some things are inevitably going to be faster. Once manila is added back in (if you do), the speed of the 6.5 may still be faster than 6.1, but not as dramatically so. Personally, I like 6.5 and am going to stick with it, and it is still beta, so more improvements will come as well.

gedster314 04-09-2009 03:34 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
So no one has a compelling, under the hood reason to run 6.5? From what I've played with on the Vogue and the TP, its just a gui upgrade. Since I already had a blazing fast 6.1 rom, I thought it was a waste of trying it.

dan-htc-touch 04-09-2009 03:37 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
if you honestly think that MS has not upgraded the core OS at all, by all means keep using 6.1, fact is, things like memory management improve with time. by your logic, no real point in running 6.1 either or 6.0, stick with wm5...

MikeElGiga23 04-09-2009 04:01 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dan-htc-touch (Post 836611)
if you honestly think that MS has not upgraded the core OS at all, by all means keep using 6.1, fact is, things like memory management improve with time. by your logic, no real point in running 6.1 either or 6.0, stick with wm5...

agreed, i love 6.5 its way better than 6.1 and the improvements makes the file explorer, contacts app, IE, start menu etc. much more useable, plus... that is where the market is going with MS so unless you want to stay in the stone age, you will eventually flash to 6.5 to get all the latest. i dont get why people try to find any excuse to not try it out, closed minds slows down progress of anything

ace741 04-09-2009 04:04 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dan-htc-touch (Post 836611)
if you honestly think that MS has not upgraded the core OS at all, by all means keep using 6.1, fact is, things like memory management improve with time. by your logic, no real point in running 6.1 either or 6.0, stick with wm5...

Ok, that wasn't very constructive. It almost sounds like you got mad that people don't agree with our opinion. Relax we are just having a discussion.

Give us examples where 6.5 is blazing fast? I'll admit it does seems faster in certain areas, it by no means is Dial-up VS broadband , or Road Runner VS Coyote.

Speed isn't the only aspect of it. How about usability? The ease of cuztomizing it?

dan-htc-touch 04-09-2009 04:08 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ace741 (Post 836686)
Ok, that wasn't very constructive. It almost sounds like you got mad that people don't agree with our opinion. Relax we are just having a discussion.

Give us examples where 6.5 is blazing fast? I'll admit it does seems faster in certain areas, it by no means is Dial-up VS broadband , or Road Runner VS Coyote.

Speed isn't the only aspect of it. How about usability? The ease of cuztomizing it?

not mad... just go through the same thing every release, same when 6.1 came out everyone asked if it was worth it, now you can't find a 6.0 rom, worth it or not... it's innevitable, might as well start getting used to it.

Titanium plugin is cool, lots of potential for customization, all xml controlled, same with the startmenu, here is what I've done to start icons, love the way things look now
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m.../startmenu.jpg

XxXViRuSXxX 04-09-2009 04:11 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
I would say yes I am using the Juicy/Mighty Mike with the new Pointui and it is pimp:headbang:!!!

robotphood 04-09-2009 04:19 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
I use PointUI 2 instead of TF3D and if there was similar system wide kinetic scrolling, it would make my day. The 6.5 lock screen and finger menus were also a plus, but now that S2U2 has the same features and then some, as well as finger menus cooked into some roms, it's a bit less appealing to me personally. Will jump onto Copper if it ever comes to the Diamond though. I want to experience all this "speed" everyone is talking about.

threeFiftyLi 04-09-2009 04:23 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dan-htc-touch (Post 836694)
not mad... just go through the same thing every release, same when 6.1 came out everyone asked if it was worth it, now you can't find a 6.0 rom, worth it or not... it's innevitable, might as well start getting used to it.

Titanium plugin is cool, lots of potential for customization, all xml controlled, same with the startmenu, here is what I've done to start icons, love the way things look now

Can we some how change the 3-row icons to 4-row and make the icons smaller? Some of the non-stock icons look really crappy all blown up.

dan-htc-touch 04-09-2009 04:26 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by threeFiftyLi (Post 836740)
Can we some how change the 3-row icons to 4-row and make the icons smaller? Some of the non-stock icons look really crappy all blown up.

that is entirely possible(there are cabs available), but can replace any icon with a 90x90 png as well, so eventually we will have icon customization packs with every app imaginable in it

chags 04-09-2009 04:29 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dan-htc-touch (Post 836611)
if you honestly think that MS has not upgraded the core OS at all, by all means keep using 6.1, fact is, things like memory management improve with time. by your logic, no real point in running 6.1 either or 6.0, stick with wm5...

Can you please source the improvements?

dan-htc-touch 04-09-2009 04:33 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chags (Post 836762)
Can you please source the improvements?

no... just saying things improve with time... one thing that is changing with 6.5, is the ability to use more modules, an extra slot has been added, this will speed up alot of the base apps. unfortunately, your device will need a 6.5 kernel, so only devices with shipped roms will be able to take advantage of this (only regurgitating things I read elsewhere, don't flame me if the info is wrong)

ace741 04-09-2009 04:33 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
6.5 is still beta and I'm sure will become a whole lot better once the same amount time and work that was placed into 6.1 goes into 6.5 . Perhaps I shouldn't have flashed to 6.5 at midnight when I was too tired to figure out how to customize it to my liking and learn the ins and outs of it LOL. I'm sure Mightymike and Juicy are cooking up something nice for their perspective ROMs and I eagerly anticipate the outcome of it.

dan-htc-touch 04-09-2009 04:37 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ace741 (Post 836785)
6.5 is still beta and I'm sure will become a whole lot better once the same amount time and work that was placed into 6.1 goes into 6.5 . Perhaps I shouldn't have flashed to 6.5 at midnight when I was too tired to figure out how to customize it to my liking and learn the ins and outs of it LOL. I'm sure Mightymike and Juicy are cooking up something nice for their perspective ROMs and I eagerly anticipate the outcome of it.

yeah, thier copper looks to be promising, a nice clean base with which to view stock 6.5 behavior on

threeFiftyLi 04-09-2009 04:43 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dan-htc-touch (Post 836754)
that is entirely possible(there are cabs available), but can replace any icon with a 90x90 png as well, so eventually we will have icon customization packs with every app imaginable in it

does the old 4row cab work?

dan-htc-touch 04-09-2009 04:46 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by threeFiftyLi (Post 836820)
does the old 4row cab work?

I assume it would, I never really like 4 rows though, 3 rows is nice and finger friendly, and all my subfolders are set up so I don't really have alot of scrolling to do

Hafrust 04-09-2009 04:51 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
I have a 4 row start menu that I found the cab for on xda. It made the icons a lot smaller, but I kinda like that b/c i can get to stuff at the bottom of the list faster.

Edit: Here's the link if anyone wants to try it. It uninstalls cleanly.

threeFiftyLi 04-09-2009 04:55 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hafrust (Post 836840)
I have a 4 row start menu that I found the cab for on xda. It made the icons a lot smaller, but I kinda like that b/c i can get to stuff at the bottom of the list faster.

Edit: Here's the link if anyone wants to try it. It uninstalls cleanly.

Can you post please. I tried my old 4row cab and it didnt work.

Hafrust 04-09-2009 04:58 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
lol...the link is in the post you quoted.

sodde 04-09-2009 05:21 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
I just flashed from Juicy's 0405 to copper and I must say, I was disappointed, it really didn't appeal to me in any way. It made me realize how good TF3D is..at least for me anyway, I guess it's all personal preference at the end of the day. I'll wait until a more complete version version is available before taking another look but meanwhile I'm going back to Juicy 0405H.

slopokdave 04-09-2009 05:22 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
one example question I had was what will be used for music playing in 6.5? I ran an earlier build and it just ran regular WMP, but nothing integrating per se like TFLO3D does. To me thats a step backwards, no?

dan-htc-touch 04-09-2009 05:38 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Is it worth it?
 
tf3d and things other than wmp are addons, it's an operating system... things can be added your talking about roms in general, not 6.5 as a base. 6.1 as it comes from MS has not those things


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