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Merdinh 03-29-2009 11:51 PM

Possible Community Chef project
 
Well i seen some ideas by some well talented chefs on ppcgeeks like JAKDILLAD, MightyMike and some others wanting to start a community Rom project where a group of use chefs will work together to make possible community roms including a Lite version, a Loaded Version, and im hoping that each will be carrier based, so we need a full version to work with sprint+alltel, and then to another to work with Verizon and the remaining carriers.

Please post your thoughts on the possible project and how many of you would want something like this to go into development.

NO DONATIONS WILL BE ACCEPTED FOR THIS PROJECT, so please do not try and force us to take your money, all chefs will be wearing bullet proof vest and other available clothing while in a heavily armed kitchen, guarded by 60 bull dogs, and 34 highly trained security officers to keep the kitchen from getting into the wrong hands.


Chef Supporters so far

JakDillard, MerdinH, MightyMike, SBR_L3GION, LilRico, lllBoredlll, JmzTaylor, Yay4Juggs, Hibby50, xweaponx

x10guy 03-30-2009 12:20 AM

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Great idea, but how will the "community" decide what and what-not to include? It seems like many of the customs ROMS are very different depending on personal preferences.
Can we see a "Loaded Version" that does NOT include TF3D?
Hopefully that wouldn't be too difficult since alot of work in cooking is making everything compatible with TF3D.

I appreciate all the custom ROMS that don't include it but it is almost always the "Lite" version.

parkjam 03-30-2009 12:23 AM

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That is in fact the best idea ever uttered! I read about the possibility in Juggs thread when JD mentioned it and I got a slow roaster at the thought of flashing THAT ROM someday!!:twisted:

Merdinh 03-30-2009 12:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by x10guy (Post 809505)
Great idea, but how will the "community" decide what and what-not to include? It seems like many of the customs ROMS are very different depending on personal preferences.
Can we see a "Loaded Version" that does NOT include TF3D?
Hopefully that wouldn't be too difficult since alot of work in cooking is making everything compatible with TF3D.

I appreciate all the custom ROMS that don't include it but it is almost always the "Lite" version.

Yea thats why it would be good to have 4 different versions of the ROM, 2 full version and 2 lite version, with and without touchflo 3d, and possible a windows mobile 6.5 version lite and full with CHOME

x10guy 03-30-2009 12:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Merdinh (Post 809523)
Yea thats why it would be good to have 4 different versions of the ROM, 2 full version and 2 lite version, with and without touchflo 3d, and possible a windows mobile 6.5 version lite and full with CHOME

Great IDEA!

MightyMike 03-30-2009 12:29 AM

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... The Epic Rom Bomb!

lol....

As i said in Y4J's thread.... I'm in.

Merdinh 03-30-2009 12:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mightymike (Post 809533)
... The Epic Rom Bomb!

lol....

As i said in Y4J's thread.... I'm in.

Great now we need that windows mobile 6.5 professional guy in hear wonder whats his name:-k

And that other Tweaker dude with the juicy fruits.

yerp 03-30-2009 12:54 AM

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sounds great in theory, but i just shake the feeling of deja vu....

jakdillard 03-30-2009 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by yerp (Post 809590)
sounds great in theory, but i just shake the feeling of deja vu....

except it will be free and it will happen

SBR_L3GION 03-30-2009 01:18 AM

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I wouldnt mind Possibly helping out in this I havent released anything in awhile but I am a productive chef.

Merdinh 03-30-2009 01:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jakdillard (Post 809624)
except it will be free and it will happen

Exactly as said no donations will be accepted.

x10guy 03-30-2009 01:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Merdinh (Post 809636)
Exactly as said no donations will be excepted.

I think you mean "accepted" ha ha

Yup, good choice. Whenever money is involved it is a recipe for division.

Merdinh 03-30-2009 01:24 AM

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Also to all the chefs interested just post in hear, once we have enough feedback we can start at some point.

Merdinh 03-30-2009 01:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by x10guy (Post 809639)
I think you mean "accepted" ha ha

Yup, good choice. Whenever money is involved it is a recipe for division.

yup thats what it was lol.

yerp 03-30-2009 01:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jakdillard (Post 809624)
except it will be free and it will happen

here's to that =D>

Merdinh 03-30-2009 01:40 AM

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well im out until later this afternoon but post all of your feedback before we can even decide where to start.

LilRico 03-30-2009 01:50 AM

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Well... IDK how this will turn out, but if you need some Manila work done, I guess I can join as well......

BLawicki 03-30-2009 01:55 AM

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I'd check it out...


http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...2316533465.gif

m_reyna_16 03-30-2009 02:25 AM

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great idea, great minds working together! will there be kitchens also? i like messing with kitchens so that i can load the apps i want!

SBR_L3GION 03-30-2009 02:29 AM

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if this takes place we will need an ftp because of the massive amount of files.

stgarf 03-30-2009 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by m_reyna_16 (Post 809717)
great idea, great minds working together! will there be kitchens also? i like messing with kitchens so that i can load the apps i want!

Agreed, I like the option to be able to include only the programs that are useful to me.

SBR_L3GION 03-30-2009 02:41 AM

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That would be a good idea it would be a Quite a large download since it would be the compiled ingredients from the chefs but definitely not impossible to do I owuld like it to be like Calkulins kitchen so it would be easy for the everyday user also.

LilRico 03-30-2009 03:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR_L3GION (Post 809720)
if this takes place we will need an ftp because of the massive amount of files.

Meh, I can give you all the FTP access... I already host all of Mighty's and Y4J ROM's, so making everyone their own account wouldn't be an issue. Plus I got 4 other FTP sites I can use as well for mirrors (with permission), so hosting would be the last thing to worry about.

Things to worry about are, who's kitchen base are you going to use and what route to take. Then the infamous question what version Manila. What reg edits and rgu's? Which OEM's, what drivers? How are we going to be certian that each chef has put in as much work as the others? What sys, what xip, I mean how are all these chef's going to decide on 1 when all the ROM's here all use a different one. The concept is a nice one, but the execution is going to be the toughest IMHO.

How are you all going to know that chef A did a change that chef B doesn't know and is causing a bug? There's just too much that can go on...

If all of these issues, on the other hand, are resolved, then wow... This can be one amazing project!!!

neurotek 03-30-2009 04:21 AM

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A PPCGEEKS community project would be awesome! kinda seems like a race to crank out the best rom IMHO in CDMA. I can understand Y4J's decision, last ROM was awesome btw! I would like to get involved myself if time permits. I've been flashin' roms left and right lately. I appreciate what everyone has contributed. I've been focusing on the guts of the OS and Touch Flo 3D. I was interested in getting TF3D ver 1.x to function like Rhodium, mainly the FUNCTIONAL calendar tab. Also, learning a bit more about the driver/performance issues with the Qualcomm chips. As for now, I lost my job awhile ago so my devotion to contribution may be sporadic. Otherwise, I think the idea Merdin brought up is great! hope to see it happen

rgildoss 03-30-2009 06:16 AM

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Well im no cheff but i would be willing to help out

lllboredlll 03-30-2009 06:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR_L3GION (Post 809720)
if this takes place we will need an ftp because of the massive amount of files.

I have an ftp that I can donate to this project. Also if you guys would like my help... count me in :)

I did refine a kitchen based off of Calkulins tools that I personally think would be a great tool for the everyday user if this every makes it to kitchen form.

I think the first step needs to be, define exactly who is on the team for this project and then vote on the ingredients. That way one person's choices arent leading the entire project.

shaggylive 03-30-2009 07:14 AM

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I like the idea. I get lost with all the roms out there, and they all seem the same (no offense) I can only imagine what a noob feels like.

j10376 03-30-2009 07:18 AM

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I think this is exactly what is needed. This is will allow more stability and efficiency in development. This would allow bugs to be resolved quicker and more ideas to flow on how to structure the rom. As far as structure I would run two versions simultaneously one an ultra stable version with everything working and efficient speed good for everyday use and a developmental version with the latest greatest and as things get fixed in latest greatest they can be added to stable this will also decrease the number of releases for stable version. I would suggest a kitchen so that roms can be built to persons personal preferance. Out of all the roms I have tried and I have tried almost all I personaly like Mighty Mike the best in my opion he has strived to have a stable rom and has meet this goal better then anyone else its just my opion. I have been using custom roms since the apache and have seen alot of roms but the one mistake that I see is everyone tries to stuff all of these programs into a rom and it is just not needed or does it work. I undestand why they try it but it does not work for stability I think the kitchen was the best idea but it has alot of stability problems and you only get a few good roms out of it every now and then. I think we should try to enhace on the speed and stability of the OEM I mean I want to use my device I would say if you want to just flash and play with the roms buy a devel device. My ideal rom/kitchen is one that is fast stable has added functionality over OEM and just works and this could happen if we would stick with a single project as a comunity instead of having 15 or 20 going on.

BLawicki 03-30-2009 08:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgildoss (Post 809868)
Well im no cheff but i would be willing to help out


....I can dance...It's all I've got....so count me in.

http://www.heathersanimations.com/dance1/eros327.gif

BLawicki 03-30-2009 08:16 AM

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And actually to chime in for real....

Just think if some of our carrier software scouting friends chimed in...some of you may have new jobs or offers...maybe even royalties. NEVER know?? Weirder things have happened...

jakdillard 03-30-2009 09:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LilRico (Post 809811)
Meh, I can give you all the FTP access... I already host all of Mighty's and Y4J ROM's, so making everyone their own account wouldn't be an issue. Plus I got 4 other FTP sites I can use as well for mirrors (with permission), so hosting would be the last thing to worry about.

Things to worry about are, who's kitchen base are you going to use and what route to take. Then the infamous question what version Manila. What reg edits and rgu's? Which OEM's, what drivers? How are we going to be certian that each chef has put in as much work as the others? What sys, what xip, I mean how are all these chef's going to decide on 1 when all the ROM's here all use a different one. The concept is a nice one, but the execution is going to be the toughest IMHO.

How are you all going to know that chef A did a change that chef B doesn't know and is causing a bug? There's just too much that can go on...

If all of these issues, on the other hand, are resolved, then wow... This can be one amazing project!!!


I was gonna make a base then feed it off to the others ..... this will not be complicated or get complicated

tray56 03-30-2009 09:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LilRico (Post 809811)
Meh, I can give you all the FTP access... I already host all of Mighty's and Y4J ROM's, so making everyone their own account wouldn't be an issue. Plus I got 4 other FTP sites I can use as well for mirrors (with permission), so hosting would be the last thing to worry about.

Things to worry about are, who's kitchen base are you going to use and what route to take. Then the infamous question what version Manila. What reg edits and rgu's? Which OEM's, what drivers? How are we going to be certian that each chef has put in as much work as the others? What sys, what xip, I mean how are all these chef's going to decide on 1 when all the ROM's here all use a different one. The concept is a nice one, but the execution is going to be the toughest IMHO.

How are you all going to know that chef A did a change that chef B doesn't know and is causing a bug? There's just too much that can go on...

If all of these issues, on the other hand, are resolved, then wow... This can be one amazing project!!!


LilRico, you pretty much hit the nail on the head with this post. Although most of us are pretty optimistic, and we should be because you cookers are highly skilled and obviously intelligent beings. It all depends on keeping the egos in check and as you mentioned, execution. This has the potential to be an amazing feat for sure. I just hope that everything works out here.

gearjunkeez 03-30-2009 02:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR_L3GION (Post 809635)
I wouldnt mind Possibly helping out in this I havent released anything in awhile but I am a productive chef.

Good to see you again SBR! I ran your rom on my touch til the day it died!

Merdinh 03-30-2009 04:51 PM

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Ok wow seems we have alot of support so im guessing we can go ahead with this project, well ill will make a temporary private forum on my website for the project discussion for the chefs sometime this week then we can all get started.

parkjam 03-30-2009 04:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Merdinh (Post 811044)
Ok wow seems we have alot of support so im guessing we can go ahead with this project, well ill will make a temporary private forum on my website for the project discussion for the chefs sometime this week then we can all get started.

Maybe we could also get a subforum of the TP Upgrades forum going with polls so the community can vote on features, programs, etc.?

Merdinh 03-30-2009 05:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by parkjam (Post 811058)
Maybe we could also get a subforum of the TP Upgrades forum going with polls so the community can vote on features, programs, etc.?

Thats a good idea, the lite version probably will contain just the basic apps like JD lite, and mightymike lite. But for the full version my opinion would be to include all the most common used apps that most people would agree with.

So you guys can post in hear what most commonly used apps you would want in the full version, all the other additions can be installed through cabs.

Formula84 03-30-2009 06:06 PM

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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=62929

Seems SPJ is doing something similar, I think this is a great Idea!

sudermatt 03-30-2009 06:15 PM

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As long as we ALSO keep what we got going now!

Call me the contrarian...But I sort of like the current environment. (this is not a debate, just a statement to describe where I'm coming from). I am a little biased, growing up in the US where competition has been king).

Currently it seems Cookers need to make their wares very good...and keep updating...lest they get left behind. I hope this new project won't squash that.

redd214 03-30-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sudermatt (Post 811286)
As long as we ALSO keep what we got going now!

Call me the contrarian...But I sort of like the current environment. (this is not a debate, just a statement to describe where I'm coming from). I am a little biased, growing up in the US where competition has been king).

Currently it seems Cookers need to make their wares very good...and keep updating...lest they get left behind. I hope this new project won't squash that.

i couldn't agree more!

Merdinh 03-30-2009 06:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sudermatt (Post 811286)
As long as we ALSO keep what we got going now!

Call me the contrarian...But I sort of like the current environment. (this is not a debate, just a statement to describe where I'm coming from). I am a little biased, growing up in the US where competition has been king).

Currently it seems Cookers need to make their wares very good...and keep updating...lest they get left behind. I hope this new project won't squash that.


Dont worry there should be no interference with regular rom releases, as this will not be worked on at all times whenever the chefs have time to work on it they can work on it, and at some point we will have it all ready.


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