JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

JD wanted this in a seperate thread so here it is. Updated to include JDTPL1 36 and 48 PP, I am not doing any other PP because it has been thoroughly PROVEN by myself and if you don't care about my electrical knowledge Juggs has even stated that without a doubt it is impossible for the PP to effect the battery life. And on top of that for everyone that complained about wanting the diff PP sizes only 9 static pagepools total were downloaded so not doing static, only 12 dyn 24 were downloaded, 22 dyn 36 downloaded and 187 dyn 48 downloaded so I believe these numbers speak for themselves. Enjoy.

JDTP5.1 Dynamic Pagepools

24PP http://rapidshare.com/files/16202185...c_Pagepool.zip
36PP http://rapidshare.com/files/16202361...c_Pagepool.zip
48PP http://rapidshare.com/files/16176453...c_Pagepool.zip

JDTP5.1 Static Pagepools

24PP http://rapidshare.com/files/16202540...c_Pagepool.zip
36PP http://rapidshare.com/files/16202722...c_Pagepool.zip
48PP http://rapidshare.com/files/16202951...c_Pagepool.zip

JDTPL1 Dynamic Pagepools

36PP http://rapidshare.com/files/16328596...L1_36_D_PP.zip
48PP http://rapidshare.com/files/16328430...L1_48_D_PP.zip


Ok, you all owe me since I actually deprived myself of my phone for over 7 hours to test for you all. So far I have tested JDTP5.1 completely stock except for the 1% battery patch with wifi and bluetooth on and phone in airplane mode at 24, 36, and 48 Dynamic for 2 hours, and actually set a timer, and here are the results.

After 2 hours 24 D Pagepool battery was at 92%
36 D Pagepool battery was at 91%
48 D Pagepool battery was at 92%

To make sure it was as accurate as possible I flashed rom with said pagepool, went through customization, applied 1% increment patch, turned on bluetooth and paired to headset, turned on wifi and connected to home network, turned on airplane mode and returned to clock screen. As soon as I had a solid white lite to show a full charge I unplugged and started 2hr timer. I did this each time so there were no phone calls or texts or unneccesary connections to data or activesync so this is as much controlled as I think i can make it. I was planning on testing the three in static but after seeing these results I don't see how the pagepool could be affecting battery life.

And from an electronics point of view, nomatter where the ram is allocated the chip will always draw the same amount of power. In a pc if you watch the voltage of your ram they are identical between a 512mg chip and a 4gb chip so I would imagine the same would hold true for PPC's.

Regardless I am still going to HEX 24, 36, 48 Dynamic and Static Pagepool versions and upload them since I know there are still probably plenty of people that will swear its different even though there not willing to do a truly controlled test.


EDIT1: Controlled Testing Results
EDIT2: Updated Dynamic and Static Pagepool Downloads
EDIT3: Updated to JDTPL1 with Popular Pagepools

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

Thank You D1.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

No Prob, wouldn't have posted it in your thread if I knew people were going to start debating battery life with a higher pagepool. Personally I get the same battery life with 24 and 48 so I doubt that is there problem but whatever, LOL.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

Damn, the battery life issues has me worried. I was about to switch over. I will hold off for now.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

see d1 this is why I asked that you make a new thread for this because the pp controls ram which does effect battery life (I'm kinda buzzing right now if anyone wants to correct me later) but anyway thanks for understanding ... also for those of you who are reading this ...........

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

I think something like a 24 mb or 36 would be better. I'd be willing to live with that. On my mogul using nuerom3, I changed the page pool to 8 mb and the Mogul flew so much faster. I think doubling the page pool should be fine since Tf3d takes up so much ram.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

JD's ROM with the modified higher PP got my battery through half a day with minimal use today.

JD's original ROM got my battery through a full day with 30% charge remaining. Interesting to note that I also used the phone more yesterday than I did today.

I'm almost confident that too high a PP causes battery drain but then again I'm a dentist not a programmer.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

mirrored on my server http://jonathanarias.com/files/JDTP5...c_Pagepool.zip

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

is there a 24 meg page pool version of this rom?

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

I was going to say that I'm running shadowmite 1.2 and before I flashed I edited the pagepool to 48 dynamic and haven't had any battery issues. I took it off the charger at 1045am and its now 8:54pm and it is still at 73%. So I don't necessarily feel that its the high pagepool that is hurting the battery, unless it is rom specific.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

any way to change the pagepool without reflashing?

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

I believe that Active Sync which is auto starting is also draining the battery. I am running JD 5 36 MB Dynamic PP and had my first battery drain tonight. After checking it out, I realized that Navigator was running in addition to Gyrator 2 and Sensorlock. I'm going to do the registry settings now to stop Active Sync from auto starting and monitor my battery usage tomorrow. My wife btw, has the TP with a stock sprint ROM and her battery Suxors.....:-)

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

Ok, you all owe me since I actually deprived myself of my phone for over 7 hours to test for you all. So far I have tested JDTP5.1 completely stock except for the 1% battery patch with wifi and bluetooth on and phone in airplane mode at 24, 36, and 48 Dynamic for 2 hours, and actually set a timer, and here are the results.

After 2 hours 24 D Pagepool battery was at 92%
36 D Pagepool battery was at 91%
48 D Pagepool battery was at 92%

To make sure it was as accurate as possible I flashed rom with said pagepool, went through customization, applied 1% increment patch, turned on bluetooth and paired to headset, turned on wifi and connected to home network, turned on airplane mode and returned to clock screen. As soon as I had a solid white lite to show a full charge I unplugged and started 2hr timer. I did this each time so there were no phone calls or texts or unneccesary connections to data or activesync so this is as much controlled as I think i can make it. I was planning on testing the three in static but after seeing these results I don't see how the pagepool could be affecting battery life.

And from an electronics point of view, nomatter where the ram is allocated the chip will always draw the same amount of power. In a pc if you watch the voltage of your ram they are identical between a 512mg chip and a 4gb chip so I would imagine the same would hold true for PPC's.

Regardless I am still going to HEX 24, 36, 48 Dynamic and Static Pagepool versions and upload them since I know there are still probably plenty of people that will swear its different even though there not willing to do a truly controlled test.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

Activesync is a killer, go to Settings-Personal-Phone-Services-Time Syncronization and uncheck the auto time sync, that is what seems to open up activesync all the time. I noticed about 5-10% better battery life at the end of a normal day after doing this.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

Not for the TP yet that I know of, all must be done by flashing.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

Could somebody link me some info about the 1% battery patch?

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

Go here http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=43229&page=8
and look at post 79.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

Will make it a bit easier :-D

Just run all three cabs on TP then reboot.

http://rapidshare.com/files/16204314...tery_Files.zip

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

Oh, it just add's the % to the battery meter?

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

Yes, since before it was in 10 percent increments.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

I just installed NO2chem's battery driver and that was it. Works fine for me.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

battery driver does 1% increments but the other two will display the percentage at top above battery icon so you might want to install them too. Up to you though.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

Thanks for doing this!

I just reflashed to JDTP5.1 with 24mb static pp. I will use it normally as I would with any given day and post results later. Just a reminder, I had JDTP 5.1 with 48mb dynamic pp prior to this flash where it gave me bad battery life.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

Well, just remember that "using it normal" is nowhere near a controlled test. Any random data connection that dosn't close properly or activesync that is constantly searching for a connection can kill battery life, unless your willing to do like I did and pretty much give up half a day to make your phone stay in identical environments then your results will never be accurate.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

True...well, thanks again for taking the time to test and post the different results. You saved a lot of folks time by sacrificing yours!

I just don't understand why it went from full charge to no charge in less than 4 hours. I made a few calls, no YouTube, no surfing the net, had ActiveSync communicate with my Exchange Server but that's normal as I always have that running!

I'm lost at this point...lets see what results I'll get from this flash!

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

Thanks for putting this together! I love the % symbol and 1% increments!

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

I appreciate your work. But I will wait until Nuerom comes out. Nuekernel is the sh!t. You dont have to reflash your phone to mess with the pagepool It should come out today.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

LOL, I will probably be using it too. Got hooked when I had my mogul.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

how does one kill activesync...ive tried!!! i hardly use as anyways

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

Its the large pagepool thats killing the battery life, and many of us have confirmed this.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

How did you confirm this? I had shadowmites 1.2 rom with a 48 dynamic PP yesterday and after 14 hours it was at 49%. Thats not any worse than I was normally getting.

Plus read above the test that deviant one performed. Did you not notice the difference was immaterial.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools
 

Because with JD's 24 mb pp that i had on friday lasted me the whole day with 40% battery left at the end of the day with regular use, and friday night i added the 48 dyn pp, and charged phone over night, and around 1p.m. my phone was at 30% battery life, and other users have also confirmed this thruogh there daily use.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

Yea, Active Sync is always been a known battery killer.
There really is no way to kill it all together. The only way I can see killing it is to not install and when it comes time to need it, install it with a cab.

Page pools cannot necessarily kill a battery unless you are using them. Its just the reallocation of memory.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

Talyn...there is a way to disable Active Sync...someone posted it awhile back on the Titan Upgrades Forum in the NueRom 3 with Kernel thread. I will search for it and post it here. I did this last night after reflashing to JD5.1 48 MB Dyn PP. I will monitor my battery usage today since before flashing yesterday I was running JD5 with 36 PP.

Edit:--I found it...here it is....http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...=37574&page=41

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

Im confused......It seems people are saying that the 24 pp is the best especially for battery life. Should we use the static or the dynamic? thanks for the help

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

I think general idea on the forums is dynamic is better than static. We are still testing and debating the PP issue. I posted earlier that it does seem to eat up the battery in my case.

Also, a comment on deviant.ones' experiment:
"there were no phone calls or texts or unneccesary connections to data or activesync so this is as much controlled as I think i can make it."

What if a higher PP causes battery drainage only when the phone is in use such as calls and texting? Just a thought but it is not out of the question.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

I thought that I would weigh in here with my experience with a high (48mb dyn pp) and battery life. I am running JD 5.1 and previously was running JD 5 with a 36 MB dyn PP. This is my very un-scientific test from yesterday.




test started at 4:19

wifi - on
bluetooth - on
data connection - on
phone - on
listened to Windows Media Player for the entire period

Answered 2 phone calls during this testing period

48MB Dynamic Page Pool

100% immediately dropped to 98%
five minutes later it was sitting at 95%
After 2 full hours at 6:19 I was sitting at 84%

After more normal usage, consisting of a couple of phone calls, one over
hour long while connected via Remote Desktop...usage finally went down
to 20 percent at 10:19

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

any mirrors yet?

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

I think a more scientific way would be to look at actual power consumption, rather than the somewhat subjective use of battery percent, charge time, etc.

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 

Yes. Use something that measures the drain.