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shakuyi 11-10-2008 01:57 PM

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
does anybody have the HTC ping test? if u run it for 30 min on each page pool u can find out the true battery life all it does is a constant ping for 30 min doesnt this sound like a better test? see how well the radio works? if i had this program id run it for u guys but i dont......i know juggalo_x has it

ptran504 11-11-2008 02:16 AM

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blkr00t (Post 508833)
I thought that I would weigh in here with my experience with a high (48mb dyn pp) and battery life. I am running JD 5.1 and previously was running JD 5 with a 36 MB dyn PP. This is my very un-scientific test from yesterday.




test started at 4:19

wifi - on
bluetooth - on
data connection - on
phone - on
listened to Windows Media Player for the entire period

Answered 2 phone calls during this testing period

48MB Dynamic Page Pool

100% immediately dropped to 98%
five minutes later it was sitting at 95%
After 2 full hours at 6:19 I was sitting at 84%

After more normal usage, consisting of a couple of phone calls, one over
hour long while connected via Remote Desktop...usage finally went down
to 20 percent at 10:19

Sounds pretty good. That is alot of usage. Does your memory still say 203mb or is it a lower number?

sirdevinster 11-11-2008 09:34 AM

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Just to give everyone a head's up...I had an amazing battery life yesterday since I flashed it with JD's Rom & 24MB Static PP. I took it off the charger 7:30am and used it normally for work. I got home last night at 7:30pm and it had 36% left. This includes long phone conversations, using bluetooth for about 30mins, and checking e-mails.

The last time I had JD's with 48MB Dynamic PP, it drained my battery till it turned off in less than 4 hours with minimum phone conversations and no bluetooth use.

I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but maybe there's a difference with Static and Dynamic Pagepool battery consumption!

Anyhow, thanks for everyone's hard researches!

gsvnet 11-11-2008 12:13 PM

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Quote:

The last time I had JD's with 48MB Dynamic PP
How do you have a 48MB dynamic PP? Wouldn't it just be dynamic, not 48MB?

blkr00t 11-11-2008 12:29 PM

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ptran504 (Post 510834)
Sounds pretty good. That is alot of usage. Does your memory still say 203mb or is it a lower number?


My memory says 143.27...48 MB Dynamic PP

I am thinking of trying out the 24 MB Dynamic PP tomorrow then try the static

I should mention that this test was also done with "beam" activated...ie..accept all incoming beams

lnchbx13 11-11-2008 12:48 PM

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
I'm currently running JD 5.0 with 48MB Dynamic PP. I've had no issues with the battery. I unplug it at 8AM and use it all day including 15-20 txt messages...the occasional picture mail 30-60 minutes of talk time, data for activesync manually, and the occasional web browsing through opera...and at 11pm still at 25%

Raging Idiot 11-11-2008 02:20 PM

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
I believe deviant.ones results were accurate. As for everyone else testing the battery usage, please remember that your results are worthless unless you can monitor the radio power consumption separately and then subtract that out. This is due in part because the phone will consume more power to get a better signal. So unless you're camped out under a cell tower providing you with perfect signal, then chances are good your battery test results are tainted... otherwise you will have to turn the radio off to make the test, unless you ideally have multiple phones (exactly set up the same) side by side testing simultaneously,
Raging idiot

1999TL 11-12-2008 04:07 PM

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Are you going to post the new files or JD's latest rom D1? I was using the last one just fine, but I'd like the updated rom.

a2k 11-12-2008 08:08 PM

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1999TL (Post 514434)
Are you going to post the new files or JD's latest rom D1? I was using the last one just fine, but I'd like the updated rom.

I second that please! I like to see the latest ROM, with 48PP!

What's the difference of 48PP Dynamic and 48PP Static? Doesn't the 48MB size defeat the purpose of being "dynamic?"

lafester 11-12-2008 08:36 PM

give it a try
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1999TL (Post 514434)
Are you going to post the new files or JD's latest rom D1? I was using the last one just fine, but I'd like the updated rom.

i would encourage you to go ahead a download the hex editor and follow the instructions in the other pagepool thread.

i had never used an editor before and it took like 5 min to figure it out. you change 2 numbers and you are done.

deviant.ones 11-12-2008 11:12 PM

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Will do it in a bit, got rear ended today and my TP flew from my lap out my window. Still works but screen is scratched up somthing aweful.

lnchbx13 11-12-2008 11:20 PM

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deviant.ones (Post 515478)
Will do it in a bit, got rear ended today and my TP flew from my lap out my window. Still works but screen is scratched up somthing aweful.

OUCH...that sux

deviant.ones 11-13-2008 02:56 AM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Updated With Lite Rom

pg2k3 11-13-2008 04:29 AM

Re: JD's ROM with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deviant.ones (Post 515478)
Will do it in a bit, got rear ended today and my TP flew from my lap out my window. Still works but screen is scratched up somthing aweful.

Add the your phone to your insurance claim and they should replace it (if you have full coverage)

deviant.ones 11-13-2008 02:11 PM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
have full coverage butthe deductable is more than the damage. driver that hit me paid me what it would cost to replace hatch and bumper and deductable for sprint insurance. was just dumb luck and my leg might have jerked in anticipation helping pop it up

rose1 11-13-2008 03:29 PM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Can someone please take a moment and explain what raising the page pool does? Also, what's the difference between dynamic and static page pools? Will I see a difference if I raise the page pool?

rose1 11-13-2008 04:25 PM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Hello? Anyone?

shakuyi 11-13-2008 05:31 PM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
i think page pool is kinda like the way virtual memory works on the pc (in this case storage memory instead of hard drive) therefore the more the merrier right? some complain about battery life on the 48 mb i have a 24 and im happy might consider a 36 next time i flash. and the difference between dynamic and static is.....dynamic is OS controlled where as static is strictly that amount assigned. i can definitely say i notice a difference in speed with increased page pool

damigs 11-13-2008 05:38 PM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
I am currently using the JDTP5.1 Dynamic 48mb PP and its been perfect thus far. Very snappy when doing my normal functions, going into inbox, opening Opera, replying to SMS, etc. So far I have had no issues to report and the battery life has been steady. By this time in the day (4:30pm) I would be missing 1 bar from the battery meter. Right now I have a full meter showing. Its great.....

Thank you!!

rose1 11-13-2008 07:01 PM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shakuyi (Post 517239)
i think page pool is kinda like the way virtual memory works on the pc (in this case storage memory instead of hard drive) therefore the more the merrier right? some complain about battery life on the 48 mb i have a 24 and im happy might consider a 36 next time i flash. and the difference between dynamic and static is.....dynamic is OS controlled where as static is strictly that amount assigned. i can definitely say i notice a difference in speed with increased page pool

So if you dont have a storage card in the pro, raising the pagepool wont make a difference right?

1999TL 11-13-2008 07:19 PM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rose1 (Post 517515)
So if you dont have a storage card in the pro, raising the pagepool wont make a difference right?

no. It will make a difference.

rose1 11-13-2008 07:35 PM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1999TL (Post 517558)
no. It will make a difference.

Okay now I'm confused, and I don't mean to hijack this thread. Based on the other persons comment, page pool is like the pagefile.sys file in windows. Instead, it uses the internal storage card for virtual memory as opposed to the physical memory in the phone. If that were the case, there would not be any memory issues with lets say the mogul which only has 64mb. Am I right?

lnchbx13 11-13-2008 07:38 PM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rose1 (Post 517599)
Okay now I'm confused, and I don't mean to hijack this thread. Based on the other persons comment, page pool is like the pagefile.sys file in windows. Instead, it uses the internal storage card for virtual memory as opposed to the physical memory in the phone. If that were the case, there would not be any memory issues with lets say the mogul which only has 64mb. Am I right?

Its not using the memory from your storage card, it is taking it from the available ram.

rose1 11-13-2008 07:50 PM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lnchbx13 (Post 517607)
Its not using the memory from your storage card, it is taking it from the available ram.

Now I understand. Thanks.

lnchbx13 11-13-2008 09:40 PM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rose1 (Post 517635)
Now I understand. Thanks.

Your welcome.

FoxRacR17 11-14-2008 02:45 PM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
could you please upload a 36mb dynamic pp of JD new 6.1 rom? Thanks! I tried learning how to hex change it myself, but i do not understand what numbers i need to put in to make it a 36mb dynamic page pool.

NM, i think i figured it out, i would change those two strings to start with 09 15 i believe.

gguruusa 11-14-2008 04:19 PM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
This thread kills me...

Quote:

Originally Posted by deviant.ones (Post 505930)
And from an electronics point of view, nomatter where the ram is allocated the chip will always draw the same amount of power.

exactly, assuming nothing goes into a low power mode (which it won't on these devices), none have "startup" costs, and none have "stopping" costs.

Quote:

In a pc if you watch the voltage of your ram they are identical between a 512mg chip and a 4gb chip.
well, that's because voltage is clamped. Current will vary (and, of course, die density will play a big role in that). But again, we aren't talking about adding/subtracting chips when pagepool is changed.

and finally....the pagepool is nothing like the pagefile on a regular operating system. A pagefile on a regular os is used to create virtual memory, by mapping through a slower and cheaper medium. By contrast, the pagepool is little more than a cache of static code portions. The nice thing is, even with a giant pagepool, you'll still have more ram available on a touch pro than many WM devices possess. I expect we'll see a lot of new software that needs that extra memory, however, and your giant pagepool will have to go.

1999TL 11-14-2008 08:58 PM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Good stuff ggurusa. I noticed the same crappy battery life when I used a higher page pool. I guess I'll just use a 48 mb Page pool then if it makes no difference. Even with such a high page pool, Tf3d is still slow...

gostars9 11-18-2008 11:26 AM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Anyone have any thoughts on this? Hasn't been a post in a few days. Does dynamic give any more performance over static? What is everyone's favorite value? I see 36 and 48 mention more it seems?

DomSim 12-21-2008 11:58 PM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
can anyone change the pagepool on jd's7.1 (not 2.0/3.0) to different sizes to try? i would like 24 or 32, not sure which is better.

MadlyAlive 12-22-2008 12:01 AM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DomSim (Post 592432)
can anyone change the pagepool on jd's7.1 (not 2.0/3.0) to different sizes to try? i would like 24 or 32, not sure which is better.

I set it to 32 when I used 7.1. All Custom ROM's I've used on my TP, I've set to 32MB.

DomSim 12-22-2008 12:05 AM

Re: JDTP5.1 and JDTPL1 with Custom Pagepools + Controlled Battery Testing Results
 
could you possible upload it somewhere for me? or mayber give better instructions than what i have found on here for doing it myself so i can learn instead of having to ask? i know its alot to ask but if you could help it would be awesome.


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