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[PMDColeslaw]

Originally Posted by rhacy

Thanks so much for numbers and information PMDColeslaw and georgepa. Cheers!

The reason for asking is that I just wanted to figure out if my Diamond would be running critically low on main storage or main program memory prior to flashing it. With OMJ's fairly recent 28014 v1.5 Sense 2.5 ROM (which I really appreciate), the storage memory available is 46 MB and the main program memory is 105 MB, just after flash. Then, once I move everything possible to internal storage, load all my programs etc... (almost all to internal storage), main storage available drops down to 12 MB's. This 12 MB number goes down to about 1 MB of main storage left, if I let the Application Data\HTC\HTC Album Cache fill up completely, and do not wipe the large album cache files daily. Anyway, with your latest ROM, it looks like my fully loaded Diamond would still have around 16 MB's of main storage left. The big plus is that the HTC Album application data would not need to cleaned daily, and the system would include HTC TV with georgepa's channels. More cheers!

Thanks again,
R

Wow! You must store a lot of stuff on the device storage to only have 16mb left.

[kermit22]

Has anyone been able to get hotmail to work on the latest version of PMD ROM? First I was getting an error so then I installed the Windows Live mobile cab and it looks like it is working and it finishes but it doesn't show my hotmail as an available account. I've tried with Sense enabled and disabled but I haven't been able to get it to work either way.

--------I got it working. Not sure why it started working, I installed all of my other program cabs and then I decided to try to get hotmail again and sure enough it worked perfectly.

[rhacy]

Originally Posted by PMDColeslaw

Wow! You must store a lot of stuff on the device storage to only have 16mb left.

Actually I try as hard as I can not to store anything on main storage. To clarify, almost everything is installed to Internal Storage or moved there with SKtools, including wallpapers, pictures, music, docs, vids, etc... That said, Application Data, specifically the HTC Album Cache and to a lesser degree HTC ProgLaucher, as well as other non HTC app data, eat up a lot of the remaining main storage memory. I do load around 100 extra programs and games, but 230+ MB's go to internal storage, and only around 2 MB's actually install to the main storage programs folder. Granted, there are portions of some programs that install to their specific Windows folders and to the root of the Windows folder. Still, I do not think they account for more 34 MB's total, and this number includes all contacts, added custom Sense mods, custom taskbar, and data. Anyway, main storage space has been an real issue here with Sense 2.5 combined with WM6.5.3 and the Diamond's limited main storage space, to date. Nonetheless, I've been trying to keep an eye on your kind work since georgepa pointed it out to me in another thread. Guess the bottom line is that I need to start with a light 6.5.3 Sense 2.5 ROM like yours, then cab install everything possible to internal storage and move everything else possible there as well, in order to keep my system from getting critically low on main storage memory.

Yikes, do not mean to type ramble, too much coffee today, lol...

Thanks again for your PMD custom ROM. Cheers!
Best to all,
R

[georgepa]

Originally Posted by rhacy

Anyway, main storage space has been an real issue here with Sense 2.5 combined with WM6.5.3 and the Diamond's limited main storage space, to date. Nonetheless, I've been trying to keep an eye on your kind work since georgepa pointed it out to me in another thread. Guess the bottom line is that I need to start with a light 6.5.3 Sense 2.5 ROM like yours, then cab install everything possible to internal storage and move everything else possible there as well, in order to keep my system from getting critically low on main storage memory.

Yes, that is your best bet. You can put a ton of stuff in Internal Storage, so most of the things that are cooked into OMJs or Mighty's ROMs are unnecessary memory wasters.

The previous ROM had 81MB of Storage memory available. Not sure how PMD does it. I tried OMJs kitchen and stripped the file off almost everything I could conceivably do without or put into Internal Storage, and I didn't come close. So I gave up.

As for cab-installing things into Internal Storage: When you install, say, Skyfire, Opera Mobile 10, Sprint Navigation, Garmin XT, Call of Duty, Virtual Mobile Pool, into Internal Storage they install some stuff into Main Memory, even though they load perfectly fine JUST from Internal Storage. So, another flash is needed to remove Main Memory use while still having the program ready to go off Internal Storage. I have about 60 programs on
Internal Storage which don't need to be installed at all anymore, no matter how many flashes I perform, they are always ready to go immediately after any flash and aren't a draw on Main Memory. Unfortunately, many Gameloft games only work from Main Memory, so they have to stay outside.

[rhacy]

Thanks for the helpful tips georgepa. Cheers!

Wow, it's funny that you mentioned the Internal Storage trick, as I've actually been leaving everything possible loaded on Internal Storage for a long time now. Actually it's been a dirty trick here since the PPC-6700 and miniSD card days in late 2005 and 2006. Back then, I figured it out by accident, but it saved space and time, and I could just add shortcuts to the start menu programs folder when needed and be good to go with many of my favorite programs. You are also so right about Gameloft. What a pain! That said, some of my other programs do not run right unless they load portions to the Windows folder as well. So I have to rerun the cabs for them, and some need keys reentered, but it's not a big deal. Nonetheless, I'm going to try your second flash trick, and see if I can save even more space and cut the reload time further. Many thanks!

Best to all,
R

[COWHEAD]

What is "your second flash trick " ? how is it done?

[PMDColeslaw]

Originally Posted by COWHEAD

What is "your second flash trick " ? how is it done?

As for cab-installing things into Internal Storage: When you install, say, Skyfire, Opera Mobile 10, Sprint Navigation, Garmin XT, Call of Duty, Virtual Mobile Pool, into Internal Storage they install some stuff into Main Memory, even though they load perfectly fine JUST from Internal Storage. So, another flash is needed to remove Main Memory use while still having the program ready to go off Internal Storage. I have about 60 programs on
Internal Storage which don't need to be installed at all anymore, no matter how many flashes I perform, they are always ready to go immediately after any flash and aren't a draw on Main Memory. Unfortunately, many Gameloft games only work from Main Memory, so they have to stay outside.

From the post above

[COWHEAD]

"So, another flash is needed to remove Main Memory use while still having the program ready to go off Internal Storage. I have about 60 programs on"
that's the part I don't get . Maybe im overthinking, thanks anyway

[PrinceOD]

First of all, awesome job! I love the TV and this seems like a pretty stable setup (I tried to break it and haven't managed to yet). I'm a Bell Mobility customer, so installed the dcd Bell Mobility cab and I think that broke some of the taskbar icons. Is there somewhere I can find the icons you cooked in to this in order to replace them? Thanks for any help you can offer; the ugly stock volume and battery icon look like chumps next to the nice blue ones for the signal and data connection!

[georgepa]

Originally Posted by COWHEAD

"So, another flash is needed to remove Main Memory use while still having the program ready to go off Internal Storage. I have about 60 programs on"
that's the part I don't get . Maybe im overthinking, thanks anyway

There are programs that work perfectly fine just off "Internal Storage." Opera Mobile 10, Skyfire Browser, Pandora, etc. Instead of installing them to "Device" choose the "Internal Storage" method. Then all you have to do is run the program off "Internal Storage." You may also create shortcuts to those programs and put them into the Quicklinks.

However, when you first install a program into "Internal Storage" you also install stuff into the device, even though the program can be run entirely from the "Internal Storage" area. Do that with 10 programs and you notice your Storage Memory depleted. Thus, reflash, gain all your Storage Memory back, and run the installed programs directly from the "Internal Storage" area.