So the big deal with RAPH800

[rgildoss]

so i have been reading and reading and checking custom ROMS. It seems there is a norm of NOT changing the Device ID to RAPH800.. now i understand that BCR will work in this ID but most are not willing to change it just for that app ..some say that it causes other problems ..it seems very hush hush...

Can someone explain why the big secracy of it all?

is changing the Device ID considered WARZE?? Will sprint call me and yell at me?

I would just like to understand it all if someone would be willing to talk about it..

[rstoyguy]

The program is considered warez by some...Not the ID.

[tobeychris]

You're changing part of your phone so you can use a program you didn't pay for, and is not free, how is that not warez?

Due to the fact that it IS warez, and changing the Model ID has no other benefits, having a custom ROM with that would be promoting the Warez, or doing nothing at all, so why change it?

[rgildoss]

okay so i do understand that but you can download an pay for the app and use on phone with RAPH800 ID ...they have a 30day trial

so would that still be considered warez?

someone else said it cause other problems ..thats what im trying to find out ...i wanted to weigh the pros and cons of having the device ID set to RAPH800...

besides there are a number of apps that are added to the custom roms that are not free ( trial versions etc ) or am i mistaken?

Please dont get this wrong , i am just trying to understand all of this ..i am i no way tring to start anything by these posts except for just info

[indagroove]

Originally Posted by tobeychris

You're changing part of your phone so you can use a program you didn't pay for, and is not free, how is that not warez?

Due to the fact that it IS warez, and changing the Model ID has no other benefits, having a custom ROM with that would be promoting the Warez, or doing nothing at all, so why change it?

But Tobey, didn't you first promote this yourself??:

Originally Posted by tobeychris

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[infection0]

the gloves, they have been taken off.

[briggs]

Originally Posted by indagroove

But Tobey, didn't you first promote this yourself??:

haha, Inda way to use your 1000th post to ask for a title shot.

[wildrage]

It's like buying a laptop with Microsoft Office preloaded on it, and then somehow copying it off, and putting it on other people's laptop...it's not legal. The manufacturer, and ultimately the person who bought that laptop payed licensing fees to Microsoft, even if it wasn't expressly on the receipt.

I mean technically...every custom rom could be considered copyrite infringement to Microsoft. Granted, we all have licenses when we bought our Diamonds...but if I were to some how (if it was possbile) put one of these custom roms on a G1, it would be violating Microsoft's copyrite for Windows Mobile.

[rgildoss]

Originally Posted by wildrage

It's like buying a laptop with Microsoft Office preloaded on it, and then somehow copying it off, and putting it on other people's laptop...it's not legal. The manufacturer, and ultimately the person who bought that laptop payed licensing fees to Microsoft, even if it wasn't expressly on the receipt.

I mean technically...every custom rom could be considered copyrite infringement to Microsoft. Granted, we all have licenses when we bought our Diamonds...but if I were to some how (if it was possbile) put one of these custom roms on a G1, it would be violating Microsoft's copyrite for Windows Mobile.

this is true ...
But the real talk is not about an application but a Device ID change that can allow applications that otherwise would not work to work.
To go one step further, i can purchase the app and be able to use it if the device id was infact changed ...

So now if i purchase a licens for the app and use it on a diamond with a diffrent device ID does this still make it illegal? would the app creator really care since i purchased it?

Another way of looking at it is ( as posted befor ) maybe the application creator could get in trouble because the carrier paid for exclusive use of the app.. But the app creator has if for sale on their site ( even trial version ) so the exclusive is out i think

[Glossman]

Just say "no" to warez!!!