PPCGeeks Forums HTC Arrive HTC HD2 HTC Thunderbolt HTC Touch Pro 2 HTC Evo 4G HTC Evo 3D Samsung Galaxy S II Motorola Droid X Apple iPhone Blackberry
Go Back   PPCGeeks > Windows Mobile > WM HTC Devices > HTC Touch Pro 2 > Android On TP2
Register Community Search

Notices


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 12-18-2010, 06:45 PM
manekineko's Avatar
Regular 'Geeker
Offline
Pocket PC: Touch Pro 2
Carrier: Sprint
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 478
Reputation: 845
manekineko knows their stuffmanekineko knows their stuffmanekineko knows their stuffmanekineko knows their stuffmanekineko knows their stuffmanekineko knows their stuffmanekineko knows their stuff
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Inconsistent booting

Has anyone else seen this behavior? Anyone able to explain what causes it?

When I boot up it seems like there are 3 different possibilities:
1. Works fine, everyone is pleased
2. Boots up, but is extremely slow. Slowness is usually (but not always) permanent until next reboot. Will sit right after boot on partially rendered lock screen and be extremely unresponsive. Initial connection to network takes forever. Generally when you finally do manage to unlock, widgets take forever to load, and there is usually a message up about how the system isn't responding. Clicking the App button to bring up the app list will take 2 seconds or more to respond sometimes. Interestingly, running Neocore yields a benchmark half of what I usually get, at 9.5fps.
3. Boot dies almost immediately after launching haret, on the line "allocated dma buffer at ffc0b000, dma_addr 25260000". Words stop scrolling, though the cursor is still flashing, and a reset is necessary.

It strikes me as really weird that the boot can result in different outcomes. I would have thought it's pretty much deterministic, being a computer and all.

I haven't always had the 3rd outcome in there, but the first two have been with me pretty much since I started using XDAndroid I think, and I've restarted from a clean data.img with a reformatted SD card many times.

Edit: Also, just to clarify, I'm running with no overclock.

Last edited by manekineko; 12-19-2010 at 06:03 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 12-18-2010, 09:13 PM
bluedeer's Avatar
PPCGeeks Regular
Offline
Pocket PC: HTC Touch Pro 2
Carrier: Sprint
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 76
Reputation: 115
bluedeer is keeping up the good workbluedeer is keeping up the good work
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Re: Inconsistent booting

I have had these problems as well as others (spontaneous rebooting, especially if left idle for a period of time), though I haven't been able to narrow this down. I've even disabled the hardware 3d and reduced the overclocking by 100mhz and still no joy. I really want this project to be reliable and viable, but I wouldn't consider this 'stable' yet. Maybe there's hope with the nand flash, I suspect it has something to do with the way Haret accesses the sdcard and certain things in memory during boot time. Maybe Haret itself needs an update?
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 12-22-2010, 02:47 AM
steveholtam's Avatar
Regular 'Geeker
Offline
Pocket PC: Touch Pro
Carrier: Sprint
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 261
Reputation: 145
steveholtam is keeping up the good worksteveholtam is keeping up the good work
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Re: Inconsistent booting

I get #1 and #2 quite a bit. After a rebuild, my phone is normally good for about a week before I start getting the above errors. Then it seems harder to get a good boot, like OP mentioned.

This is not a huge problem as there has been so much development lately that I am rebuilding my phone mostly before I see the above problems at this point.

It is something I'll research later if things slow down. Maybe I can figure out which file(s) are causing the hangs.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 12-23-2010, 06:25 PM
InvincibleLiving's Avatar
Post Master General
Offline
Pocket PC: White Evo: Myn's TPT RLS5, Stock Kernel
Carrier: The "NOW" Network
Location: Leesburg, VA
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,464
Reputation: 4222
InvincibleLiving should be added to the payroll for their contributionsInvincibleLiving should be added to the payroll for their contributionsInvincibleLiving should be added to the payroll for their contributionsInvincibleLiving should be added to the payroll for their contributionsInvincibleLiving should be added to the payroll for their contributionsInvincibleLiving should be added to the payroll for their contributionsInvincibleLiving should be added to the payroll for their contributionsInvincibleLiving should be added to the payroll for their contributionsInvincibleLiving should be added to the payroll for their contributionsInvincibleLiving should be added to the payroll for their contributionsInvincibleLiving should be added to the payroll for their contributions
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Re: Inconsistent booting

I'm back to experiencing hanging boots when I try to load haret. The progress bar freezes just before the 2 vibrations and boot init screen.... only solution when it hangs is to soft reset.

Had this same issue about a month ago then it resolved itself just as randomly as it came.
__________________
Creator of iLife ROM Series

Best... Member... Ever...
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 12-23-2010, 07:18 PM
ndno's Avatar
VIP Member
Offline
Pocket PC: Touch Pro 2
Carrier: Sprint
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 421
Reputation: 3570
ndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIP
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Re: Inconsistent booting

One thing I noticed is that if I have been using WinMo for a while, I just "hard reset" (not restart), then power up and then launch haret.exe. Seems to always work (Android comes up and works smoothly) for me.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 12-23-2010, 07:36 PM
arrrghhh's Avatar
Testing Extraordinaire
Offline
Pocket PC: HTC Touch Pro 2 (RHOD400)
Carrier: Sprint
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,604
Reputation: 7360
arrrghhh is a trusted member of the communityarrrghhh is a trusted member of the communityarrrghhh is a trusted member of the communityarrrghhh is a trusted member of the communityarrrghhh is a trusted member of the communityarrrghhh is a trusted member of the communityarrrghhh is a trusted member of the communityarrrghhh is a trusted member of the communityarrrghhh is a trusted member of the communityarrrghhh is a trusted member of the communityarrrghhh is a trusted member of the community
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Re: Inconsistent booting

Quote:
Originally Posted by ndno View Post
One thing I noticed is that if I have been using WinMo for a while, I just "hard reset" (not restart), then power up and then launch haret.exe. Seems to always work (Android comes up and works smoothly) for me.
What do you mean by hard reset? Gotta be careful with the terminology here...

Soft reset = pin under battery cover/pull batt

Hard reset = wiping device with power button/vol down... that whole mess.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 12-23-2010, 07:50 PM
ndno's Avatar
VIP Member
Offline
Pocket PC: Touch Pro 2
Carrier: Sprint
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 421
Reputation: 3570
ndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIPndno is still contributing even after becoming a VIP
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Re: Inconsistent booting

Quote:
Originally Posted by arrrghhh View Post
What do you mean by hard reset? Gotta be careful with the terminology here...

Soft reset = pin under battery cover/pull batt

Hard reset = wiping device with power button/vol down... that whole mess.
Oops... sorry for the bad terminology. I meant "power down" not "restart".
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 12-24-2010, 03:20 PM
demonlordoftheround's Avatar
Almost a VIP
Offline
Pocket PC: OnePlus 8 5G
Carrier: T-Mobile
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 11,166
Reputation: 12900
demonlordoftheround can't get a higher reputation leveldemonlordoftheround can't get a higher reputation leveldemonlordoftheround can't get a higher reputation leveldemonlordoftheround can't get a higher reputation leveldemonlordoftheround can't get a higher reputation leveldemonlordoftheround can't get a higher reputation leveldemonlordoftheround can't get a higher reputation leveldemonlordoftheround can't get a higher reputation leveldemonlordoftheround can't get a higher reputation leveldemonlordoftheround can't get a higher reputation leveldemonlordoftheround can't get a higher reputation level
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Re: Inconsistent booting

Quote:
Originally Posted by arrrghhh View Post
What do you mean by hard reset? Gotta be careful with the terminology here...
LOL! I thought that seemed a bit severe.
Reply With Quote
Reply

  PPCGeeks > Windows Mobile > WM HTC Devices > HTC Touch Pro 2 > Android On TP2


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
©2012 - PPCGeeks.com