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udayse

10-13-2010 10:49 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Sept. 2010

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Originally Posted by teradog (Post 1952524)

Even again! (rep & posts :>)) LOL sorry.. still think it's really freaky we're sitting @ the same. I certainly didn't try it.. at first.. but when you said something about an echo, I looked for something you restated of someone elses.. & then I looked & saw your posts & rep... couldn't resist!!! (I am guilty of a slight adjustment once today... done :>))

OK in a PM can get more into detail, but... others have reported perhaps more issues with Blazen. You've picked the Droid that's pushing the envelop... (kinda like an Energy 23xxx ROM) You may want to try the other one for starters. Also, are you OC'd? Can't remember but I thought Blazen OC's by default. Edit the startup.txt & take it out for testing if it's in... let me know

also, don't mess with SIM right now... everything @ basic levels.. take out.

One thing I did... take an old 1 or 2 gig SIM, copy the stuff to your PC hard drive & get use to deleting & restarting.

Quickway: On a newly formatted 2 gig card (not the attached llllooooong format, just windows) make a directory called droid builds... copy all 3 of them in there (blazen, reference, & the one in step #2). the 1st 2 use a directory, the last doesn't That's OK.. expand each & run... you can mark your setup.txt & default.txt files as read only (or not) & keep them in the droidbuild dir. After expanding the one you want... copy the startup & default (w/o the OC lines in) to the same dir as haret is in.

Then test away & try stuff on each, make a record of what works in what build... most stuff should work in all!
For example, I've got the step 3 (XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.3.9.10.RC.2.2.system.7z) build working on a 1gig with tethering working... still haven't got it on the others.. but I haven't tried much either.. will sit & put some time in & get a for sure method soon.

*EDIT* oh yea.. for some reason once in my testing I couldn't get data, restarted & ran the GUI, select your keyboard... most important, check "Force cdma". Then it booted fine?? dunno

THis is the clearest info i have ever seen about this issue. Thank you for posting

teradog

10-14-2010 01:10 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Sept. 2010

No worries, glad to help, thanked... I still haven't got the tethering down to a science yet, have it working on step V.2. (not 3 as I previously posted), but can't duplicate it!! I'm using another formatted 1GB SD, same build, same tether, same startup.txt, EVERYTHING... spent hours (days) on it & can't get it working again (on any build).

So, I finally gave up & simply copied all the files from my working sound & tether build onto my other 8GB (class 6) that I use with my Windows stuff.. into \andboot directory, and added the relpath statement (bottom of post 1)... works fine.

Options (post 1) V. 2 & 3 droid builds use the root directory by default, but I don't like all that mess of files in there... cleaned it up...

teradog

10-14-2010 01:17 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Sept. 2010

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Originally Posted by deadwrong03 (Post 1971495)

having a problem with the launcher pro i guess the one i was using expired now whenever i load up android a webpage tellin me the newer versions of it to save but when i try to save it it says theres no sd card in the phone and i cant do anything else when i try to go back to the home screen the webpage loads back up so i cant do anything....what can i do?

Just re DL the whole new package... sometimes I've had issues with the update prog as well. Reformat another old 1 GIG SD (or go buy one for 4 bucks..) DL the latest build.. it seems like a nightmare, but it's actually quite fast to take another card run the cab & go... MANY people have had issues with the cabs & MANY report DLing RAR, expanding on PC & copying over to SD much more reliable

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Originally Posted by cvcxl (Post 1973082)

looks like there has been a lot of great work making Android come alive on TP2. I'm seriously considering trying this when I have free time this weekend.
I'm curious... are you all using Android as your primary phone OS or is this just for fun?

I don't run it as much as I thought... been WAY to busy trying to keep up with NRGZ28 & all the Energy ROMs he's been flooding us with lately!!!

The guy is OFF THE CHART. He's dumped hundreds of ROM builds in multiple languages, multiple devices, both 6.5 & 6.5.x on us in the last couple weeks!!!! Many of us are NOT moving to another device as his latest (settings selectable!) startmenu replacement with MS OS latest 21681 6.5.x build is giving us 100MB free RAM!!!! WITH Cookie & Sense! With Over Clocking & all this, why buy new... unreal

Grab a cheapo 1, 2, or 4gig (under 10 bux) it only takes 10 min... not a weekend! Good luck
all thanked

toinejuan

10-15-2010 01:06 AM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Sept. 2010

I've been using the Froyo 2.2 on my TP 2 for the past week now. I love it, I'm rather reluctant to use winmo anymore but I have to. It's not ready for prime time daily usage just yet. As someone previously mentioned, if you need to use it for business or lots or for very essential needs then using it 100% of the time is going to be a real challenge. There's still no bluetooth support, the camera doesn't have a driver and though seldom it crashes every now and again. If your a heavy multi-tasker like myself and you don't need to use it for business then by all means you can use this more than 60% of the time. It's just much more seamless and intuitive then winmo. It'll take getting used to but once you do, you won't really want to go back. I am dual booting as I'm sure many folks are doing the same. It's definitely more than just a weekend plaything though. Cheers to the developers you've done a great job!

7one8

10-18-2010 08:14 AM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Sept. 2010

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Originally Posted by DatBoiDame (Post 1952033)

I just have 1 issue right now with ProjectAndroid Froyo 2.2 Reference. I carefully followed the instructions.

My mobile network & data will not work. Doesn't work without the SIM card in the phone and it doesn't work with the SIM card in & my network forced to CDMA Only. What do I do?

try sim out, the network forced to CDMA, and just leave it alone n let it load .. should work fine ..

manekineko

10-19-2010 10:00 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

Maybe something that should be added to the FAQ is that if you want to use Google Voice to dial out, you have to modify your startup.txt set cmdline to include the following:
"north_am_dialing=1"

teradog

10-20-2010 12:48 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

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Originally Posted by manekineko (Post 1977415)

Maybe something that should be added to the FAQ is that if you want to use Google Voice to dial out, you have to modify your startup.txt set cmdline to include the following:
"north_am_dialing=1"

done.. near bottom under startup.txt, thanks/d.. anyone else let me know of good tips & info... plz

slick78

10-29-2010 02:55 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

i just installed the android and i get it to launch but i get no connection. i cant make a call or get internet it says network isn't available. can someone please help?

demonlordoftheround

10-29-2010 03:08 PM

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Pop out the SIM card and check force cdma in the startup utility or force cdma=1 is in the startup text.

slick78

10-29-2010 03:39 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

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Originally Posted by demonlordoftheround (Post 1983923)

great, that worked. if you dont mind now the gps isn't working and it said it should work when i downloaded it. is there a fix that you know of that i can try?

arrrghhh

10-29-2010 03:52 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

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Originally Posted by slick78 (Post 1983945)

great, that worked. if you dont mind now the gps isn't working and it said it should work when i downloaded it. is there a fix that you know of that i can try?

Make sure you've got a clear view of the sky, and I noticed lockons happen MUCH faster if I update with QuickGPS in WinMo before booting Android. GPS Status is supposed to do the same thing in Android, and it seems to work as well. Just make sure to keep that data up-to-date.

u2rock

11-01-2010 08:03 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

I have couple of Qs:
I have 8BG SD card with some apps installed for WinMO. Can I use same card without reformat to download Android? Otherwise I would lose those apps when I switch to Winmo.
I saw .cab file for Froyo from Project Android. DO I only get to install .cab file and I am good to go?
Thanks

demonlordoftheround

11-01-2010 08:17 PM

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That is how mine is set up. All the Android and WinMo stuff is all together. No need to format the card. Be sure when asked, to install Android to the card. Welcome to the Future!

manekineko

11-02-2010 02:07 AM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

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Originally Posted by arrrghhh (Post 1983957)

This is great info, never heard of GPS Status before. I'd nominate this for inclusion in the FAQ.

rclark

11-09-2010 10:52 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

Okay, I get it. I'm a newbie that is chronologically past his prime. Where do I start to learn this stuff? Do I have to take a bazillion IT classes in linux, A+, etc etc? Is there any easy way to learn the fundamentals? Any and All help will be greatly appreciated

natemcnutty

11-09-2010 11:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rclark

and Depends on what you want to learn. In my opinion, classes are a waste when you are just getting started. Check out a book from the local library on your subject of interest, then take an intermediate class from a comminuty college. That will get you a solid baseline to start from.

Also, remember that you don't have to learn all aspects of it. Each of the xdandroid devs have specific areas that they really excel at and others they don't bother spending time learning. Pick something specific that interests you and go for it :)

teradog

11-10-2010 04:33 AM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

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Originally Posted by rclark (Post 1991934)

lol nate on the depends.. no insult intended rclark... :>))
You don't need any of that stuff...
Read the first post here over & over until you understand it.
Then read this several times until you understand it..
Pre/Post ROM flash tasks+Backup/restore, Start 2 Finish Guide+Android*ENERGY
Wala, you just learned this stuff... :>))

Of course I'm ass-uming you meant: how to work & mod your TP2... because you are in a phone forum..

cmajewsk

11-10-2010 09:37 AM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

teradog- thanks for putting this together. I am so bored with WinMo so I thought I'd give Android a go. I had a question after reading all your info and then the info posted over at Project Android. They go into it quite a lot, and make a big deal of taking out your SIM, and if you don't because you need it then follow the GSM build. My phone is a Sprint CDMA, but I use it exclusively on a GSM network. So would I use the CDMA build or the GSM?

Thanks!

arrrghhh

11-10-2010 10:13 AM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

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Originally Posted by cmajewsk (Post 1992159)

GSM sir. Android is a one-or-the-other kinda deal at the moment, even tho our phones are capable of both.

natemcnutty

11-10-2010 09:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by teradog

Quote:

Originally Posted by rclark (Post 1991934)

LOL... for some reason I thought I was in a different thread and had interpreted the post as wanting to learn how to develop stuff... That's what happens when you mix cold medicine with beer :)

teradog

11-11-2010 09:12 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

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Originally Posted by natemcnutty (Post 1992717)

LOL... for some reason I thought I was in a different thread and had interpreted the post as wanting to learn how to develop stuff... That's what happens when you mix cold medicine with beer :)

Was probably my red at the beginning, sorry.. I'd like someone to come up with an easy cab/prog that can be made a clickable icon for all. Winstart & Droidstart, which would run different \windows\startup files for both (copy over from another area...)

Different startup files can have an effect on how droid runs... would like an easy way to take out of the picture. Right now I go into total commander & copy \win\startup directory to windows\startup OR copy \droid\startup directory to \windows\startup...

teradog

11-11-2010 09:17 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmajewsk (Post 1992159)

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrrghhh (Post 1992170)

GSM sir. Android is a one-or-the-other kinda deal at the moment, even tho our phones are capable of both.

as i don't use GSM at all, arrrghhh seems confident of his answer, go with it.

The reality.... you're putting to much time & effort & research into it! :>)) I say that with good intent! It really is as easy as disabling any OC you have first, install the cab to an old 1, 2, 4 gig SD card, expand it, use a file manager to double click the haret file. You'll see the text go tiny & scoll a ton of stuff by, pause for a 1/2 min, scroll some more, blank, delay, it's running. Done.

Typically at this point I'd say, if you get no network (can't make a call or pull up a web page) then put the SIM in... But, you'll need GSM as you don't have CDMA at all correct? So, you'll need your SIM in.. easy. You may want to look at the GSM forum for TP2's over at XDA if you like to do the research first...

If it doesn't work, try another cab! Delete all the crap & start over... you won't hurt the tp2, just do it. Avoid the Blazen at first... You may need to either have the startup file associated with your network OR run the one of the Windows front end GUI's that usually come in the cab for that droid build if it doesn't work... try it, try it again, try again... you could try all the builds DL, expand cab & run each in the time it takes you to read one of these forums.. when you figure out something new, post it, it'll help others... get stuck.. post the question, don't worry about the critics, there's enough good ones around, you'll have it running tonight!!

DaveTN

11-17-2010 09:51 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

Well howdydo teradog. Just thought I'd stop inand let you know that I got bored studying and decided to load android on my TP2.

Thanks for your tutorial which made it a painless and easy process!

David

InvincibleLiving

11-17-2010 09:59 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveTN (Post 1997836)

Dave, you trying it out for the first time? If so welcome to the revolution!

Agreed, this is a great thread!

DaveTN

11-17-2010 10:27 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by InvincibleLiving (Post 1997844)

Dave, you trying it out for the first time? If so welcome to the revolution!

Agreed, this is a great thread!

yessir...

Been wanting to for a long time but kept putting it off because grad school has been too busy.

Took a study break for just 30 mins and have almost everything the way I want it. Was pretty much quicker than flashing a new ROM.

Still have a lot to learn but now that I have it working, I can take the time to work on it and tailor it to the way I like.

Thanks for the welcome!

David

InvincibleLiving

11-17-2010 10:30 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

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Originally Posted by DaveTN (Post 1997870)

yeah, you'll fit right in with the prev ROM flashing experience... not that it translates so much but helps you get over the heebie-jeebies of trying out experimental ish lol.

steveo70

11-22-2010 05:48 AM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

Teradog, ran across this bored and wandering around. You nudged me in to trying out android again. Can not believe how far these great minds have taken this. Dont really feel the need for android but now i can play wordfued against the wife because i can. If we could only swap engines, id run this car forever. lol

steveo70

11-22-2010 05:53 AM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s Oct. 2010

Btw, being my first real android rodeo. Is there an easy way to transfer over contacts . Until then, ill be using the search box. Thanks in advance.

InvincibleLiving

11-22-2010 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveo70 (Post 2000553)

Btw, being my first real android rodeo. Is there an easy way to transfer over contacts . Until then, ill be using the search box. Thanks in advance.

If you have a Gmail account it imports all of your contacts calendars extra in the account sync feature under settings.

Sent from my MSM using Tapatalk

pcmanager

12-30-2010 10:33 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ¡¯s Oct. 2010

HI All, I have the Droid up and running on my TP2 and am getting most of the bugs worked out but wondering if there is a setting to fix the G sensor to operate correctly. It keeps changing the phone from landscape to portrait but in the wrong direction, like if i hold the phone up it goes landscape...... I found the setting to turn off the sensor but would like to have it work right if possible. Is there something i need to put in the startup.txt file to set it? Im this file XDAndroid 2.2 (rel 1.6).cab to install and launch. It lets you pick your phone, asks if you want it OC'd then creates this startup.txt file.

set ramsize 0x10000000
set ramaddr 0x10000000
set mtype 2292
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd initrd.gz
set cmdline "acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=650000 lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x9f.0x39a.0x35c.0x78 clock-7x00.a11=500 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 gsensor_axis=-1,-2,3 force_cdma=1 physkeyboard=rhod210"
boot

Edit; Found solution after comparing some startup.txt files. Changed "gsensor_axis=-1,-2, 3" to "gsensor_axis=2, 1, 3" Now gsensor works as expected on my DroiDed TP2 :)

teradog

01-05-2011 10:53 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ¡¯s Oct. 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveTN (Post 1997836)

Well howdydo teradog. Just thought I'd stop inand let you know that I got bored studying and decided to load android on my TP2.
Thanks for your tutorial which made it a painless and easy process!
David

Hi Dave! Sorry so long to respond. Good to hear you are finally doing it..

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveTN (Post 1997870)

....Took a study break for just 30 mins and have almost everything the way I want it. Was pretty much quicker than flashing a new ROM.
..Thanks for the welcome!
David

Great you got it working so fast... yea, funny "faster than burning a new rom".. ha!

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveo70 (Post 2000553)

Btw, being my first real android rodeo. Is there an easy way to transfer over contacts . Until then, ill be using the search box. Thanks in advance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by InvincibleLiving (Post 2000586)

If you have a Gmail account it imports all of your contacts calendars extra in the account sync feature under settings.

+1 google
2 of the nicest people on the forum, invincible & DaveTN! Unfortunately Invincible is leaving us for the EVO... (think I read that on another thread)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcmanager (Post 2027073)

HI All, I have the Droid up and running on my TP2...
Edit; Found solution after comparing some startup.txt files. Changed "gsensor_axis=-1,-2, 3" to "gsensor_axis=2, 1, 3" Now gsensor works as expected on my DroiDed TP2 :)

Sorry, haven't been around.. I'll add that to the front page, thanks. I thought the startups I linked had that in.. will go see...
*edit*
In step I. #4 I linked to 3 startup.txt files all had the correct axis, also under step VII. I typed out a startup.txt, it too had the correct axis...

BethyM

03-12-2011 06:34 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s March 2011 Updates

Thank you!! Have it up and running on my TP2 from Sprint. Loving my phone all over again. Never had the time to read all the threads to figure it out, so thank you for taking the time to lay it out nice and pretty!! \\:D/

2niceguy

03-12-2011 09:01 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s March 2011 Updates

Hi, i got error said: failed to load file\storagecard\zimage

Please help me out

teradog

03-13-2011 12:18 AM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s March 2011 Updates

It would take much less time to delete it & run steps 1-6 again, follow closely the instructions... Ensure if you run haret to start, you use a startup.txt file for your device. Please try again & see what happens

*edit*
You have to be aware... some of the downloads put everything @ the root of your storage card, some & the ones I prefer put them under a directory called andboot/

Look at the startup.txt files in the first post, make sure you have this line "rel_path=andboot" in your startup.txt..

Also, try another build, you may have better luck!

ink718

03-27-2011 03:25 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s March 2011 Updates

Sorry, before I start reading all the posts, I just want to know if Android port is working 100% on the TP2?

manekineko

03-27-2011 09:02 PM

Re: Simple Guide: ANDROID TP2 CDMA TIPS/FAQ’s March 2011 Updates

Quote:

Originally Posted by ink718 (Post 2074634)

Sorry, before I start reading all the posts, I just want to know if Android port is working 100% on the TP2?

Nope. If you want to know, basically everything is working except for the issues I listed here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-tp...lds-3-7-a.html

pmcolman

04-05-2011 04:41 PM

Question on Windows vs Android screen calibration coordinates

Quote:

Originally Posted by teradog (Post 1939911)

I. QUICK GUIDE: 6 easy steps below, then have fun!
3. Ensure you have a calibration file copied into the same directory as haret & startup.txt

1. The contents of Windows Mobile 6.5 calibration parameters from my Rhodium 500, according to CERegEditor key

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH\Calibr ationData is:

509,524 808,845 801,201 222,199 213,846

which I am guessing just based on the physical calibration sequence must be:

center top-left bottom-left bottom-right top-right

2. The contents of Rhodium 500 android ts-calibration file is

823,137,169,145,503,506,830,850,172,852

which based on inspecting the number values might be:

bottom-left bottom-right center top-left top-right

3. I am assuming that the number pairs are:

(a) consistently interpreted by the two operating systems with respect to where they are on the screen, and

(b) coordinates which are x,y when the phone is held in portrait orientation

4. It is also interesting to note that the android file has commas between every number, but the Windows Mobile file has a space between each coordinate pair.

Can anyone who has read the code validate these observations?

Do the five points in each list correspond to exactly the same screen locations points based on their values, or are the values juxtaposed between Windows and Android?

Paul

touchpro2_newbie

04-08-2011 07:48 PM

Re: Simple Guide, 6 Easy Steps (15 min): ANDROID TP2 DL links, 3/25 FRX06, GingerBre

can someone help me? i tried loading frx06 on my sprint touch pro 2 but when i tried booting it up, it stopped and said unable to open persistent property directory/data/property errno: 2 and i don't know if this has to do anything with it but on write error it says no space left on device

arrrghhh

04-09-2011 01:15 AM

Re: Simple Guide, 6 Easy Steps (15 min): ANDROID TP2 DL links, 3/25 FRX06, GingerBre

Quote:

Originally Posted by touchpro2_newbie (Post 2082216)

Sounds like you don't have any space left on the device...

There needs to be at least 256mb free on the card - after moving everything from the build over. In the FAQ it mentions to have at least 480mb free, as the default data.img is 256mb.

Sting32

04-12-2011 10:50 AM

Re: Simple Guide, 6 Easy Steps (15 min): ANDROID TP2 DL links, 3/25 FRX06, GingerBre

Arrrrgh?

Can I please ask for a request of what "utils" you use, be posted on the 1st or second post please? I have tried several battery showing apps, and task managers, some seem to be ok, but 2 days ago, I read (somewhere I cannot find the post) that you were using some app for task manaagment? It goes without saying, you have done MARVELOUS work on these droid threads, sure as heck helped me a lot. So since you also seem to find the best apps, can you at least list them, so I know what to hunt for in market (or elsewhere)?

Thanks a huge amount.

I love this android on my TP2, but when I try a new build I have to reload all my apps, :scratch: and without the old one running, I forget what all I need, liked, and what not (I know what I liked isnt your concern)... LOL but a couple 3 or 4 basic needs, like astro, and task manager, etc.

thanks.

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