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arrrghhh 09-06-2011 08:02 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpaxadpom (Post 2143237)
arrrghhh, thanks. Tried setting proxy as outlined here http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-vogue/...s-android.html , but no luck.

Dunno. Sprint "just works", but Cricket needs a proxy server to get out to the internet. Price you pay for a lower-tier cell provider. Good luck.

Dinomon1 09-07-2011 10:03 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
I DL it, but it stays on "tiny white text on black background" for at-least 30 mins.. Is that normal?

arrrghhh 09-07-2011 10:15 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinomon1 (Post 2143359)
I DL it, but it stays on "tiny white text on black background" for at-least 30 mins.. Is that normal?

From the first post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by teradog
WHAT TO EXPECT - Normal Working:

1st min. or 2: You should see tiny white text on black background scroll by fast, stop & then continue, many times
Minutes 2-5: You should see little green droid bots fly by writing the name XDANDROID in green. (sometimes pausing for a few seconds)
THEN: You should get a blueish water background pic lockscreen. CONGRATS! It worked & successfully built a data.img file.
A minute later: You should hear a tone or several & XDANDROID should be at the top of your screen & 3G & the service level bar at the top should show.
WAIT another minute for it to finish the build. Have fun!

So no, that's not normal. Either you skipped the ts-calibration step or you didn't specify rel_path= in your startup.txt (unnecessary if you have everything at the ROOT of your SD card - no folders)

Dinomon1 09-07-2011 10:18 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
I have stuff on the SD, but I created a new folder just for XDAndroid.

arrrghhh 09-07-2011 10:22 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinomon1 (Post 2143362)
I have stuff on the SD, but I created a new folder just for XDAndroid.

Then you must specify a rel_path= in your startup.txt. Please re-read the first post, or the first post of my thread for more on that topic.

Sc/ant864 09-07-2011 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinomon1 (Post 2143370)
^ Thank you. It booted to Android, but when I rebooted, it went back to WinMob. How do I get back to Android, do I have rebuild it again?

Also, I think my calibration is messed up on Android, how to fix it? Thanks in advance.

You can boot HaRET from the file on your SD or use MJG utility like me that adds a nice icon to your WM start menu, and read the first post of this thread again.

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Dinomon1 09-07-2011 11:18 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
When I boot HaRET from SD folder, it goes back into the "tiny white text on black background" again. Is that normal?

Also, i think the calibration is still messed up, because when I touch (i.e. 2, it displays 5, etc, etc). Please help.

arrrghhh 09-07-2011 11:33 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinomon1 (Post 2143380)
When I boot HaRET from SD folder, it goes back into the "tiny white text on black background" again. Is that normal?

Also, i think the calibration is still messed up, because when I touch (i.e. 2, it displays 5, etc, etc). Please help.

Calibrate manually then. See my thread I linked earlier, there's steps on how to manually calibrate (yes, it's a manual process - but you only have to do it once. Get a good ts-calibration file and SAVE IT!!)

Every time you boot HaRET it should go back to the "tiny white text on black background". Then it should go to the boot animation, and eventually Android... this is the Android boot process, yes, it's normal.

Dinomon1 09-07-2011 11:49 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
I DL you calibration file, but it still asked me manually calibrate it. Where do I DL MJG utility to dual boot option?

arrrghhh 09-07-2011 11:55 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinomon1 (Post 2143389)
I DL you calibration file, but it still asked me manually calibrate it.

If you feel the calibration is off, you must calibrate manually. No other option.

Dinomon1 09-07-2011 03:07 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Thanks to you guys, I am able to get DualBoot working. I am liking Android, how do i get the clocks?

Where do I get a Windows Exploder apps?

arrrghhh 09-07-2011 03:26 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinomon1 (Post 2143429)
Thanks to you guys, I am able to get DualBoot working. I am liking Android, how do i get the clocks?

Where do I get a Windows Exploder apps?

Get the clocks...? Add a widget on the home screen perhaps?

Windows Exploder apps lol... the Market perhaps? I like Astro for a file manager if that's what you're asking...

Dinomon1 09-07-2011 03:40 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Yes, I mean widget on the home screen, is that DL from market place?

arrrghhh 09-07-2011 03:46 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinomon1 (Post 2143439)
Yes, I mean widget on the home screen, is that DL from market place?

Anything that isn't provided in the build either has to be installed from the Market, or manually installed via an APK.

There are several widgets that come with the build. Long press on the home screen to see the options available.

lovingHDTV 09-08-2011 08:25 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
I've noticed that when I talk on the phone for a while 15 to 20 minutes. That when I'm done the screen is off, but I can't turn the phone back on. I have to do a hard reset. Has anyone else seen this? It doesn't do it for short phone calls, just long ones.

dave

arrrghhh 09-08-2011 09:51 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lovingHDTV (Post 2143569)
I've noticed that when I talk on the phone for a while 15 to 20 minutes. That when I'm done the screen is off, but I can't turn the phone back on. I have to do a hard reset. Has anyone else seen this? It doesn't do it for short phone calls, just long ones.

dave

It'll turn back on eventually, I'm betting the phone is just choking. Next time it happens, try to wait... If the phone was functional up to the end of the call, I'm betting the phone will still be functional after the call.

I'm not sure how native devices deal with this, but it seems that if the processor is pegged the phone does not like to wake up.

Sc/ant864 09-08-2011 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovingHDTV (Post 2143569)
I've noticed that when I talk on the phone for a while 15 to 20 minutes. That when I'm done the screen is off, but I can't turn the phone back on. I have to do a hard reset. Has anyone else seen this? It doesn't do it for short phone calls, just long ones.

dave

I have had the same thing happen only mine crashes and reboots after a long call, once I cleared app cache, closed all open apps and deleted any I don't use daily, it hasn't happened again. Like arrghhh said when the processor is close to 100% it tends to bring out bugs. Also once in a while delete all browser cookies, temps, etc.

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Dinomon1 09-08-2011 06:03 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
How do I get WiFi to get connected to my HP TouchPad tablet with FRX07.1??
Do i have to DL any apps?

arrrghhh 09-08-2011 06:09 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinomon1 (Post 2143679)
How do I get WiFi to get connected to my HP TouchPad tablet with FRX07.1??
Do i have to DL any apps?

No. Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Portable Hotspot. It's far from perfect tho, be warned.

Dinomon1 09-08-2011 06:26 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Would Sprint charge it for hotspot..? With my WinMob, WiFi was connected on my Dell laptop, but not on the HP Touchpad.. hope this will work with the tablet.

Sc/ant864 09-08-2011 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrrghhh (Post 2143680)
No. Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Portable Hotspot. It's far from perfect tho, be warned.

Have you tried barnacle wifi tether? I used it alot with FRX06 and it worked great, although when I tried it with FRX07 it seemed like it kept running even after disconnect, did you point out in one of your posts that it tends to do that with FRX07?

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arrrghhh 09-08-2011 08:08 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinomon1 (Post 2143684)
Would Sprint charge it for hotspot..? With my WinMob, WiFi was connected on my Dell laptop, but not on the HP Touchpad.. hope this will work with the tablet.

Most hotspots don't throw up a 'true' AP. They use what's called an adhoc network, which your fantastic paperweight can't handle. It needs a true AP, which the native Android tethering app does.

Sprint has never said anything about my tethering. YMMV.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sc/ant864 (Post 2143692)
Have you tried barnacle wifi tether? I used it alot with FRX06 and it worked great, although when I tried it with FRX07 it seemed like it kept running even after disconnect, did you point out in one of your posts that it tends to do that with FRX07?

Sent from my ppcT7380 Ti/FRX06-07 via PPCG app

Sorry, missed this post at first.

Barnacle is similar to all the others - it uses adhoc networks instead of using a true AP. The built-in tether feature is the only one (that I know of) that throws up an actual AP.

Why didn't you use XDAndroid's wifi tethering app? :p It worked great, but again... it used an adhoc network, which most laptops can handle - but Android devices cannot connect to adhoc networks, and the TouchPad is in the same boat AFAIK.

spinn 09-09-2011 11:59 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Has the battery life problems been addressed in the latest build? I have FRX06 and was planning to upgrade to FRX07. I've only been able to get 3-5 hrs use.

arrrghhh 09-09-2011 12:18 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spinn (Post 2143806)
Has the battery life problems been addressed in the latest build? I have FRX06 and was planning to upgrade to FRX07. I've only been able to get 3-5 hrs use.

Android will inherently use more battery than WinMo, all else equal.

3-5hrs is not unheard of if you're a 'heavy' user. These types of users can't make it thru a full day on a native Android device, so you'll have no hope on a ported one. As for "light" usage, which is what I would classify my usage as - I can easily go 12+ hours. It all depends on your usage...

Also, widgets & apps that autoupdate are going to kill your battery. The more frequently they update, the quicker it will kill your batt. Keep these to a minimum. My Speed Improvements thread has some tips that will help save battery life too - focus on the DroidWall and memory management sections.

Sc/ant864 09-09-2011 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrrghhh (Post 2143703)

Sorry, missed this post at first.

Barnacle is similar to all the others - it uses adhoc networks instead of using a true AP. The built-in tether feature is the only one (that I know of) that throws up an actual AP.

Why didn't you use XDAndroid's wifi tethering app? :p It worked great, but again... it used an adhoc network, which most laptops can handle - but Android devices cannot connect to adhoc networks, and the TouchPad is in the same boat AFAIK.

I don't know really why I didn't try the XDA wifi app other than at the time so much stuff was still broken in the build(frx06) that I felt barnacle would automatically set up my configuration. I know my Archos 10.1 did connect but I cannot remember weither it would fail after awhile or not. Keep in mind up until a year ago I knew nothing about android so I was a little gun shy.

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tubeboggan 09-10-2011 12:19 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Upgraded from 7 to 7.1 and can't receive incoming calls. Went back to 7 and it works again.
Any ideas? Same settings and startup file.

ferny4 09-10-2011 02:21 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tubeboggan (Post 2144010)
Upgraded from 7 to 7.1 and can't receive incoming calls. Went back to 7 and it works again.
Any ideas? Same settings and startup file.

im not sure if your problem is the same as mine.. when i receive a call i can hear it ring , but cant see who is calling. i just have to wait till i get the notification "missed call" and then just call back..any help would be gladly appreciated..

tubeboggan 09-10-2011 02:31 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferny4 (Post 2144021)
im not sure if your problem is the same as mine.. when i receive a call i can hear it ring , but cant see who is calling. i just have to wait till i get the notification "missed call" and then just call back..any help would be gladly appreciated..

Nope, I don't even get a "missed call" :???:

spinn 09-11-2011 03:24 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arrrghhh (Post 2143809)
Android will inherently use more battery than WinMo, all else equal.

3-5hrs is not unheard of if you're a 'heavy' user. These types of users can't make it thru a full day on a native Android device, so you'll have no hope on a ported one. As for "light" usage, which is what I would classify my usage as - I can easily go 12+ hours. It all depends on your usage...

Also, widgets & apps that autoupdate are going to kill your battery. The more frequently they update, the quicker it will kill your batt. Keep these to a minimum. My Speed Improvements thread has some tips that will help save battery life too - focus on the DroidWall and memory management sections.

Thanks arrghhh. I just realized, I had FRX07 and not 06. I'm by no means a heavy user. I imagine there are apps that continue to run even though I've closed the window; not to used to how the apps works or close yet. I did have the setting to not update automatically, but still saw a drain. I'll take a look at your speed improvements. I can only hope to get at least 8-10hrs.

Sc/ant864 09-11-2011 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spinn (Post 2144173)
Thanks arrghhh. I just realized, I had FRX07 and not 06. I'm by no means a heavy user. I imagine there are apps that continue to run even though I've closed the window; not to used to how the apps works or close yet. I did have the setting to not update automatically, but still saw a drain. I'll take a look at your speed improvements. I can only hope to get at least 8-10hrs.

The best solution I've found is buy a charger off eBay that has a USB port and has a built-in dock for a battery then swap batteries while plugged into the USB. Android will stay on for a few seconds with the battery out (doesn't work in winmo which I find interesting...arrghhh, teradog, ACL any thoughts?), this seems to me to be the only option for heavy users.

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arrrghhh 09-11-2011 07:34 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tubeboggan (Post 2144010)
Upgraded from 7 to 7.1 and can't receive incoming calls. Went back to 7 and it works again.
Any ideas? Same settings and startup file.

Well the RIL was slightly upgraded in 7.1 and it supposedly fixed a bug where the RIL would spam the system with incoming call alerts, sometimes so frequently it would cause issues. Perhaps there's a side effect of the "fix". I'll have to try to get in contact with the dev of the RIL...

You can grab the RIL from 7.0 and put it in 7.1... I hate regressions!

tubeboggan 09-12-2011 02:06 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Hi, sorry I'm not that technical. What's a RIL and where can I find it?
Thanks.

arrrghhh 09-12-2011 09:49 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tubeboggan (Post 2144250)
Hi, sorry I'm not that technical. What's a RIL and where can I find it?
Thanks.

/system/lib. I guess I can release another 7.1 version, it's just so odd that some people are having such severe issues with calls, while others have no problems whatsoever. I hate pulling something on a hunch. I'd like something more definitive.

briggs 09-12-2011 03:59 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Thanks for the guide here, very straight forward and fast.

If it wasn't for the battery life issues I would run this all the time.

teradog 09-12-2011 05:27 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Battery save:

Much of the same as performance increase:
  • DL Advanced Task Killer Froyo from market & kill all running apps. (If you have 20 lights on in the house & TV & radion, etc., you'll use more juice!)
  • Delete any active widgets from your 3 home screens (weather, news, etc..)
  • Set your apps not to auto update in settings, so a bunch of other tasks & network access isn't going on at the same time your trying to play... settings, Accounts & sync, background data (UNCHECK IT).
  • Uncheck roaming in settings:
  • Also, the constant adds & data connection can eat battery life: Just use Droidwall from market to not let apps go on the internet all the time, (or turn off data) #282
  • Stop all the background apps & stuff from starting up in the first place... Explained in arrrghhh's post below & either Droidwall or advanced taskkiller will let you do that also.
  • arrrghhhh later started this great thread with some additional tips: [[Speed Improvements]] Brainstorming & Testing Thread!!

tubeboggan 09-16-2011 12:01 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
hmm can't seem to find system folder. is it hidden?

arrrghhh 09-16-2011 12:51 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by tubeboggan (Post 2145271)
hmm can't seem to find system folder. is it hidden?

If you're looking in WinMo you won't find it :p.

That reference is to a location in Android... system.ext2 gets mounted as /system in Android.

So pull an old RIL, and bind mount it in /system/lib. Some have reported success, maybe it'll help you?

Grab this attached file. Unzip it. Put it at the root of your SD card - if you want it in a folder, modify the command below:
Code:

mount --bind /sdcard/libhtcgeneric-ril.so /system/lib/libhtcgeneric-ril.so
Put that in the CustomCommands section near the bottom of the froyo.user.conf file (which is in the conf folder). Make sure it's on its own line, between the { }.

briggs 09-16-2011 05:36 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
this build is hardly stable.

It royally screwed both my battery charging (wouldn't recharge the phone until like 4 or 5 soft resets and a day) and my radio in windows mobile.

Don't try to boot into this in gsm mode or you'll experience the same. I would recommend removing the options for WCDMA in the build in order to make the gsm radio function properly.

arrrghhh 09-16-2011 06:08 PM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by briggs (Post 2145439)
this build is hardly stable.

It royally screwed both my battery charging (wouldn't recharge the phone until like 4 or 5 soft resets and a day) and my radio in windows mobile.

Don't try to boot into this in gsm mode or you'll experience the same. I would recommend removing the options for WCDMA in the build in order to make the gsm radio function properly.

Uh... what?

I've never had these issues...

briggs 09-17-2011 09:24 AM

Re: Simple Guide, Android on SD card! 4 Easy Steps (15 min): TP2 DL links (FRX07.1)
 
what winmo rom do you use? Do you ever use the gsm sim card instead of the cdma radio?


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