Why sound isn't working on the TP2.

[sovereignty03]

Originally Posted by sovereignty03

Good thought...I have a Tilt 2 (a variant of the Rhodium/TP2 family) from AT&T and is does not have a 3.5mm audio jack. But, with that being said, I don't know if the functionality is actually there and they (HTC/AT&T) just decided not to include a jack, or if the functionality was completely deleted from the PCB/Kernel...

Well...didn't think of this earlier...has anyone actually tried their headphones with the extUSB adapter plugged in to see if there is sound there? I don't have my adapter at the moment so can't try it.

[sovereignty03]

Originally Posted by sovereignty03

Good thought...I have a Tilt 2 (a variant of the Rhodium/TP2 family) from AT&T and is does not have a 3.5mm audio jack. But, with that being said, I don't know if the functionality is actually there and they (HTC/AT&T) just decided not to include a jack, or if the functionality was completely deleted from the PCB/Kernel...

Another thought...Going by my experience with universal PCB/circuit design it would be more logical/cost effective to leave the entire kernel and pcb intact and just remove the 3.5mm jack along with changing the phone enclosure to not include a hole for it. I think I remember reading that the functionality is actually there for the front camera also, but AT&T decided they didn't want it on there phones so the camera and the phone enclosure was changed to not include it. (probably had something to do with AT&T not wanting any more bandwidth taken up by video conferencing)

So...it may be true that something is happening that is causing the audio to output on the headset instead of the handset rear speaker...it's only a thought. I would guess that somebody has already tried plugging in a headset for sound...

[sd73ta]

tried it and still nothing

[uranidiot]

keep trying guys, we know u can do it.

[gface2k]

Since my previous test on removing the wavedev.dll was totally wrong because I didn't put the

Enable External Speaker - external.rhod_speaker=1

switch in my start up txt I re did it again.

What I found was that removing wavedev.dll from winmo results in no sound during calls from the front spkr and hiss from the back spkr all the time. Having wavedev.dll in winmo results in hiss from the back spkr but ass soon as a call is made the phone shuts down the back spkr (no hiss durin this point) and you can hear the call in the front spkr. As soon as the call ends the hiss returns to the back spkr.

[sovereignty03]

Hmm...my rep doesn't go up...someone click that thanks button

[variance]

Originally Posted by sovereignty03

Hmm...my rep doesn't go up...someone click that thanks button

it's kind of old news. it's been done. but i gave you props anyway.

as for the 3.5mm jack havng anything to do with it.
sound comes from both the extusb and the 3.5mm jack

I've come to believe the 3.5mm jack is just hooked into the same sound circuit that's on extusb. ive concluded this by trial and error playing with the ext usb dongle from mogul and touch pro1 trying two earphones at once. pulling one out of the jack and into the dongle and vice versa. etc.

so the detection and functionality should be the same regardless. if that hardware guy can just post a comparison/results on his hardware debugging/tracing of the difference between wm6.5 bootin up and android with the current drivers booting up. see if the way it initializes the sound really is different from all the other htc wm phones using the similar chipset.

only thing about tp2 sound wise diff from the other HTC phones using xda-android may be it's awesome speakerphone functionality? but then again that all ties into how sound is initialized and all that.
one thing the TP2 has down is call quality.

[variance]

Originally Posted by [ACL]

You can also trace calls in haret. I'm doing that now for the 3d. Requires a lot of patience.

For those of you who haven't started playing with haret. What are you waiting for ?

+1 on playing with haret.

and respect for having the patience..
after a few hours of tracing calls, my add kicked in as I started trying to think of a way to write a program to automatically do it for me. then I forgot about that when I saw a post of someone who posted up some builds of Froyo on xda that he was requesting someone test with rhodium.. which i'm trying to do now.


TP2 would have made a much better android device.

[justinxtreme]

.... lol i was totally off..... i didn't know the touch pro 1 had a ext usb sorry

oh and i kno the extusb is usable as a microusb port i'm just saying it's modified and sends requests to the board since it's uses digital output....

Either way the whole debugging thing and how windows works wit the sound is nice

ill try taking a look at the files (i'm looking for it i know how to decompile drivers now (it's kind of complicated )

[[ACL]]

Originally Posted by variance

+1 on playing with haret.

and respect for having the patience..
after a few hours of tracing calls, my add kicked in as I started trying to think of a way to write a program to automatically do it for me. then I forgot about that when I saw a post of someone who posted up some builds of Froyo on xda that he was requesting someone test with rhodium.. which i'm trying to do now.


TP2 would have made a much better android device.

I tried a while back when Klinux gave me his copy he had running on the blackstone. It never ran on my tp2 but it may be because its cdma. I'm not really sure since the logs made no sense at all.

Yes, Haret is retardedly powerful. Dzo a while back released some scripts to help parse the dumps.