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Coming from someone in the same industry (although I'm primarily video, still some audio experience) I can tell you there is some sense to Joshszman09's claim. I'm sure he explained a bit more than most newcomers will understand, but the point is, our phone is unique specifically BECAUSE of that noise cancellation system in it (as I understand it, 2 microphones and 2 speakers in addition to the headset piece). Now that being said, I can't pretend to speculate that I know exactly what kind of processing/filters they have implemented, but it would make perfect sense that it would at least need to be setup in its "basic" setup (that is, without noise canceling to provide simple sound output) or be provided different parameters to activate the noise canceling processing.

Unfortunately, I can't pretend to know the programming aspects of activating any of that. I'm pretty good with computers, and Linux, but unfortunately my programming skills are lacking :\ I'll continue being people's guinea pig though for any new tests that need to be done, and provide the best feedback I know how. If I can be of any other kind of assistance developers, please let me know!

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It is true that there is a bunch of hardware involved in the noise canceling system. Its probably not setup correctly ye. The thing is that we know there is no sound getting that far.

[ACL]. Check the logs and debug my program! I think something could happen :-)

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Where is the program ?

ill be on the channel ..

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I don't think this is a avenue worth pursuing (noise cancellation). typically this will be a hardware or otherwise very low-level function.

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+1 Anybody took the time to tear apart of Bose QC3 headphones would know the nightmare.

I'm also wondering if there is a way to direct sound past the noise-canceling, being that it is an integrated part of the system and not something that you physically plug in.

Either way, I wish you guys the best of luck on this one. And everything you guys have done and are still doing thus far is very much appreciated.

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I'm not sure if anyone has looked into this but it seems that if I boot up Mr. X's Titanium Lite rom with anything plugged into the headphone jack then I will not get any sound until the phone is soft reset. If you have already known about or tried that route sorry for wasting your time. I just didn't feel like rereading all the posts to see if the android sound problem might be related to whatever is causing the custom rom problem. I haven't tried it with any other roms but would just like to know if it is just the one rom or possibly something more common. Thanks for everyone's hard work and dedication to this android sound issue.

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Really come on bro read help us help you.....this isnt the place to ask for rom support.

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Actually, the first time I read that it sounded as if he was trying to call attention to that issue thinking the 2 might be related, and the solution to the rom issue may be somewhat similar to the issue we face with android (or at least, both issues resulting in the same symptoms, assuming our device is thinking something is plugged into the headphone/set jack). If that is the case, the solution for one may shed light onto our issue as well. Again, I'm no rom or linux dev, just good with computers and linux. Trying to offer any help/ideas at this point...

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Ummm, he didn't ask for any ROM support, just offered an option to try

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Lets talk about the 3.5 mm headphone jack for a minute. I personally have a Tilt 2, which does not have the 3.5 mm headphone jack, compared to the the Verizon and Sprint TP2. I remember reading somewhere either on the thread or xda, that xdandroid seems to be pushing audio to the 3.5 jacks, but there is no output from any appliance plugged into it. Question, Has anyone tired to use the Tilt 2's usb to headphone adapter to see if audio is present? I can't seem to find mine atm. Just a thought....

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First off I would like to thank everyone who is working to give us sound on the Rhodium. I have a vzw Rhod500 and I also have the same audio problem with the stock vzw rom that was released in June. Here is what happened to me. oh btw I'm using BLAZIN froyo released 8/18/2010 not sure which kernal image he's using on that. maybe the August 2nd release. Anyway
I booted android and plugged in my 3.5mm headphones no auido. Then I shut down android and returned to wm and tried to play some music and guess what? no audio. I had to unplug headset and reset the device. Then I had audio again. Went into my media player to play some music and I had sound plugged in headset and still had sound. While the music was playing I started android the music stopped as soon as it launched and then while the os was loading I heard a little pop in my headset. Started android again and tried to play music nothing. Unplugged headset and shutdown android. WM loaded and sound works. I don't know if that will help anyone but there you have it. If I have headset plugged in while wm boots then there is no audio. I bet this affects all the ROMs. Maybe someone with more knowledge should give HTC support a call and see if they can get any info from them which might help figure things out. I for one can't wait for sound on android I hope one of you guys cracks it soon. Keep up the good work.

Something else I noticed there is a delay between the time you plug in the head set and music changes from external speaker to headset.

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The Touch Pro 1 from Sprint also came with this. Mine is @ home. I am @ work for another 7 hours or I would jump on it.

SIDE NOTE: MUCH PROPS to those of you who are working endlessly to resolve this issue. Don't give up. The answer has got to come soon. I will likely have my Evo 4g by the time it does but I will still be keeping up with the progress & rooting for a fully functional Android on my long time friend, the Rhodium ; -)

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I found mine last night, it doesn't make a difference in sound. I started thinking, since the usb is only being used for debugging we wouldn't get any audio.

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even tho no sounds comes thru is it possible that android "thinks" something is plugged in already? If that is the case, plugging in the headset is not going to do anything because the port is already allocated to something else... Right?

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Not that i dont appreciate the support.. but a lot of these posts dont make any sense.

I'd like to keep this thread going for Dev as much as possible. Once we begin drifting away its just going to balloon up into a mess that no one will want to read.

I think that headphone theory has been beaten to death already ..

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hey [ACL]

i was helping a friend install android on his HTC HD2 and i saw that they require to run an exe file prior to booting haret in order to get sound working, not sure if you have come across it or seen it before, here's the file if you wana look at it. i ran it on my tp2 before haret but sadly no sound :(

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yup.. we know all about it. Nope its no help..lol.. sorry we are actually in good communications with the hd2 guys swapping ideas on the irc channel.

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Jonpry: fixed rpc on the nand version.. i looked into snd.c for the calls you mentioned to enable incall sound Looks like we already make the calls for the device and volume.

1. [ 110.704772] SMD: ch 0 OPENING -> OPENED
2. [ 126.494842] Creating a master local ept d4c3ed20
3. [ 126.515441] snd_ioctl set_device: device 1
4. [ 126.536682] Turnin mic bias on 1
5. [ 126.556945] snd_set_device 1 1 0
6. [ 126.577056] [RPC] CALL on ept d4c3ed20 to 30000002:aa2b1a44 @ 0:00000001 (60 bytes) (xid 2 proc 2)
7. [ 126.613983] [RPC] READ on ept d4c3ed20
8. [ 126.634185] [RR] - ver=1 type=1 src=0:00000001 crx=0 siz=28 dst=1:d4c3ed20
9. [ 126.673919] [RPC] READ on ept d4c3ed20 (24 bytes)
10. [ 126.697967] buggy program ApmCommandThrea is calling snd_set_volume with dev=256 != 0x11
11. [ 126.735961] snd_set_volume 17 0 5
12. [ 126.757080] [RPC] CALL on ept d4c3ed20 to 30000002:aa2b1a44 @ 0:00000001 (60 bytes) (xid 3 proc 3)
13. [ 126.795349] [RPC] READ on ept d4c3ed20
14. [ 126.801757] [RR] - ver=1 type=1 src=0:00000001 crx=0 siz=28 dst=1:d4c3ed20
15. [ 126.817260] [RPC] READ on ept d4c3ed20 (24 bytes)

They show no errors. Any other ideas? we are tracing the dlls down but anything that comes to mind might help..

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Just to clear up any confusion from [ACL]'s statement here- THERE IS NO SOUND EVEN FROM THE HEADPHONE JACK ON CDMA MODELS. When they list headset sound working, they are referring to phone calls, not sound from the OS, if I am not mistaken. It seems that quite a few people are making that mistake now.

If audio worked through the headphone jack, there would be a LOT more discussion on that topic, not to mention we'd very likely be much closer to making this work. But alas, if you read the first post on this thread you will see that the problem is clearly explained as getting the sound processor to respond to any commands at all.

That is all.

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First of all, I want to thank all of the people working on this.

I just noticed yesterday that I was listening to music on the WinMo side with my USB headset, and booted into Froyo a couple of things happened.

As Android is coming up I could hear a brief (1 second) clicking on the headset.

I could make a phone call and I would get the audio into the headset, but the person on the other end could not hear me.

If I unplugged my headset while in the call, the handset speaker turned on and I could hear the other party, but the other party still could not hear me (maybe the microphone had been turned off when the USB headset is plugged in?)

When I stopped the call, plugging in and unplugging the USB headset gave me a "click" on the headset.

I don't know if this means anything at all, I'm just reporting an experience that I don't recall seeing in the forum before.

The part that has me baffled is the fact that the microphone was disabled for both the headset and the handset.

Anyway, I'll be happy to do any other testing that anyone needs.

By the way my phone is a Rhod400 on US Cellular.

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Don't kid yourself, once you have an EVO you will never look at your TP2 again!

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wow thx for the informational post in regards to this thread.....:spam2::spam2:

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The truth is, he's probably right though...

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I am not too great when it comes to builds like this, but do you think it would be possible to only boot down most of the WinMo instead of all of it? If you can do that, you can shut down everything but what makes the sound work in Winmo, and carry that over to the android build. Idk, just my 2 sense. Think that may be possible?

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I don't think that's fundamentally even possible, as WinMo and Android use TOTALLY different kernels.

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I think this thread has really taken a turn for the worst. However, a few people have had some good ideas, or offered some good help. Most of all I think this thread has been a beacon for the community. Bringing new people into the community. And as such the need for this thread has finally come to an end. More on that in some soon to be released builds. So the rest of you can finally give it a rest.

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Not being a dev myself I been watching more than posting.

I love my Rhodium. I have a ways to go on this one before I am about to jump to a new device.

Sound is a big thing. But I also feel accurate power management is my biggest concern. With that I'd be happy to make the jump and NAND test boot and anything else that I can say won't brick the device.

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I was afraid of this. Guys, lets let the DEVS have this thread and continue to make progress. We're getting to read some of the deep technical stuff. Good Stuff. Lets not get ourselves on the outside of something we all really want.

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But this is ppcgeeks... where drama happens. Leave the real dev discussions to xda and mu.

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Real devs ? ha..

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XDA is reporting Sound on TP2:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...27997&page=699

^Hope this won't be fake.

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i committed it myself.. its tru.. pop the champagne.. and kiss Jonpry's ass..

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It's incredible!! A big THANK YOU is in place for everyone who made this possible!

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thanks for the link rigth now im using andriod listen pandora yess thanks everyone make this posiblel

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I would like to contribute something to the guys who made this work. jonpry, acl, let me know where i can donate to (and who else might have been involved). I've been following this thread since the beginning, and I thank you for all your hard work.

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ok i guess im gona sell the HD2 and make my friend give me back the TP2 lol
thanks so much guys! this is cause for celebration, too bad i gota go to class but will be all over it this weekend!

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LOL- but remember before you go all crazy... the big news here is that a major hurdle, ENABLING SOUND, was achieved, however don't make the mistake of assuming this is a finished port of the OS!

Yes, enabling sound is a HUGE milestone, and development will likely snowball from this point out, but the HD2 porting is also in full swing, and might already be further along than we are!
Remember, the Rhodium port still lacks support for camera, bt, power management, and while sound is enabled it STILL isn't finished (speaker stays initialized when not in use, volume control doesn't work yet, etc... its enabled, which was the hurdle up until now).

I haven't been following the HD2 porting lately, however last I checked they already had sound and there's a good chance it is more complete than the Rhodium... jsut sayin

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Hey guys. We did it!.

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i know but still i was gona sell the tp2 but i wont anymore

congrats and thank you

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Thank you jonpry I sent you a little token of my appreciation =D>