What's most important, out of what's missing?
 

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I would think sound and speakerphone fall into the same category. The reason we don't have speakerphone, is because the rear speaker isn't working. Ear piece sound works fine

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access to the best apps such as google earth, goggles, navigation. i understand these come in time.



battery management, media features.



just my wishlist off the top of my head. im happy with whatever we got now.

edit: i will vote when i get home.

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I Vote For Sound And For The Camera :protest: Those R A Must For Me N Then Maybe Speaker Phone But Man I Wish The Dev Process Would Speed Up Just A Lil Bit:angry7: I Can't Wait Till Its Finally Done :headbang:

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its actually gained more speed since Saturday than ever before.

I watched several threads being created and saw nothing updated for months it felt like.

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Well you would think they do, but they're actually 2 different files that control them from what I understand... Also, if you've listened to your ear piece closely you'll see it's not 100% clear and has a bit of a background noise to it, that's also part of the development, so I listed them differently.. Thanks for voting =D>

Yeah once we get availability to the higher end APP's I can see a lot more people using this a lot more instead of here and there.. And with improved Battery usage we'd get a lot more out of the APP's we download as well so I feel you on this one =) thanks for voting...

Sound & Camera were my #1 and #2 as well... The development process however in these past 2 days alone has moved fast enough to put a smile on my face... With the speed it's picking up at I don't see it long before we start getting a more realistic feel of Android... Thanks for Voting =)

x2 brotha, this development is starting to pick up nice..!! Like I was sayin up top there, I almost gave up hope on this and than it seemed like a new light was shined on it and it's steadily becoming more an more appealing to me every day..!! Not knockin on 95-civic at all I give him mad props but he even stated before that he was working on it by himself and only when he had time, now that it has more hands on it an more frequently at that, we'll be there soon, oh yes, we will be there soon lol...

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For me, sound/speakerphone, power management, and making the touchscreen work better are the most important. Camera, GPA, and 3d acceleration are what I would want after those things, but they're not really essential.

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Definitely power management, followed closely by sound. Phone is no good if I can't charge it or even know exactly how much battery I have left - or if it doesn't ring/vibrate on incoming calls, notifications, etc.

Otherwise, it's super fun to play around with. Screen is way to sensitive though!

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Yeah those are some good choices.. The only reason I suggested the Camera at this stage is mainly for the APP's... Certain programs require the Camera function to be available "Google Goggles, Barcode Reader, etc"..

Point very well taken, hopefully it boils down to being able to tweak our own power settings like we can on our TP2's already, now that'd be some good shit..!! And I agree on the Screen issue, which is another fix I'm sure we have coming up not to far away... I don't know how many times I clicked on the main wallpaper and ending up clicking Widgets once the window opens up lol...

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I know the GPS is not working, however I am able to access Google Navigation and it works great. It is obvious not going to give you audible notifications or have exact location GPS, but it does work and its pretty nice. I am looking forward to the day I can use it instead of Amaze GPS in Windows. I was unable to get Google Earth to work myself either and I think Google Goggles doesn't work only because the Camera is not installed or working.

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touchscreen, thing is driving me crazy! other then that i would say sound, then power management. the joys of development software lol

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I see everyone wants sound, as do I, but the phone is literally useless if it only lasts a few hours at best and I can't charge it in Android.
Mine was dead by 4pm yesterday, whereas WinMo would go just about 2 days on a single charge

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I as well would like to have to power management working 1st. I don't notice the difference as much because I have the Verizon Extended battery, and I am still so rough on my battery that I still charge it once occasionally twice to get me through the day with Windows. I was able to get several hours use yesterday with my standard battery so I might have to try and get a time out of it this afternoon once my Extended battery is fully charged. I will post my findings on the forum here somewhere when my battery finally dies out.

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if you turn off the auto light adjustment in WinMo you will see it last a little long not saying that power management is not a issue...

id say sound is my number one since i have to hear my phone never feel it vibrate and power management would come close second so i know my phone is dying

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I'd also love to have the 3.5mm jack working. It's probably my favorite feature of the TP2, since I listen to music walking to/from class every day.

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I would say power management it's to much of a tease just to be ablew to play with the phone for a few hours only. Imagine how fast the phone would die if we had sound working. Listening to music in the car, using last.fm slacker radio, pandora, and etc. or watching videos.

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Yeah the more it comes about, power management does make ton's of sense... But without sound, you won't hear your phone play its faint little trickle ".wav" letting you know its dying =)

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+1
:headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang:

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I have to say power management is most important. I can get by without sound since vibration works for ringer and alerts, but not having any clue how much battery is left until it dies is killing me.

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Point very well taken =)

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I am going to go with these as my top four:

battery management
sound
gps
3D Acceleration

I have absolutely no idea how you guys to Android Development but what you have so far is fantastic! I don't know if it helps any but I know the Hero and TP2 have the same battery, maybe some data mining from a Hero build is in order?

Thanks for all the development!

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It's interesting that sound is by far the most important issue for most people.

Don't get me wrong, sound is definitely important but I guess I'm in the minority camp that thinks, "what good is sound if your battery has run down..."

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I total agree with you on this one. If we have sound working everyone will be running Pandora and other music/ video programs. I also this that after this people will then really start to complain about how they one get 30-45 minutes of battery in android. I know that pippy and civic are doing a great job and will get everything accomplished sooner or later. One thing that I am kinda lierious 0
about is I hoe they continue development when they possibly get new devices. I know there are some new devices coming out (HD2, Supersonic, Desire etc.), so hopefully they stay with the Touch pro2 or continue dev, because without them, we would be no where near where we are now.

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My thoughts exactly. I can always reboot to WM for some things, but I can't reboot everytime I want to see where my batt is at.

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Sound is the only thing that is preventing it from being totally usable as a phone. I'd like my battery to last longer, sure, but first I'd like my phone to ring

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Sound/Battery <~~ it's a love hate relationship =)

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It's not so much about the battery lasting longer as it is the ability to see how much is left and being able to charge it. Vibrate works so we can still be notified of new text/email as well as incoming calls.

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I too would like battery status and the ability to charge. I have built several linux instakllations and compiled my own kernels several times. It is a pain (to get various functionality working), but I can only imagine what its like when there are no drivers for the hardware! then also you could always just build a huge kernel with support for every thing there ever was or ever would be, not an option on the phone lol

I notice also that lspci is not included, I was very curious to see what we had..

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It's like having a great car but running out of gas. What good is it?
I think in the current state, you can't even charge the battery while in Android. You can get sound but you still only have a usable phone for like 5 hours. Then it's back to Winmo to charge the battery again...

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Exactly. And btw - I was in Android earlier today when it actually vibrated for an incoming call. When I tested that yesterday (same build) it didn't do that. I was busy and let the call get ignored. Called the person back a few min later, and after the call ended I had nothing but a dead screen (screen was off). Couldn't get it back so I had to hit the reset button. Weird.

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im going for

sound
bluetooth
and power managment and also speakerphone

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That's the stupidest analogy ever. The phone works just fine, it just doesn't last as long as you'd like it. To continue with your awesome analogy: Plenty of people love sports cars (In this case, Android), even though they get less gas mileage than some small generic coupe (WinMo), and I'm sure the sports car owners (Everyone who voted for anything other than power) think they are plenty good. If they run out of gas, they put more in. If you run out of battery, charge it

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There is one problem... Currently you Can't charge the battery in Android.. The point I was simply making is what good is a great device with sound if you can't run it?

But anyways, the poll is really a moot point since I'm sure the developers are working on many different issues. Alot of different factors go into what gets fixed first so in the end it doesn't really matter. If sound gets fixed first... that's totally fine.. or vice versa. I'm sure we'll all be happy.

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I can see where you are coming from. A better analogy would be a small gas tank, no gauge to see how much gas you have left and no way to refuel. If that was your car, would the radio not working really be the first thing you complain about? :evil4:

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ha ha... it's all good.

The poll is sort of silly because it's not like you have to pick one or the other... I think there are 3 or 4 on that list that we can ALL agree that are important.

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I actually picked sound over power management. Technically it should not be used as your main os but just something to play with and see how far along that the devs have gotten. Mainly right now its just people that want to play with it for a bit and go back to winmo. I like being able to see what apps they have out there and hear what the makers of the apps want me to hear as i am playing with it. The power is not a huge concern (yet) for me since i am generally only in Android for about an hour at a time. They are both very high up on the to do list i bet but we are still in the playing stages and not a live os stage.

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You know what the crazy part is? Even at the just playing stage Android is more stable on the TP2 than winmo. Faster in some respects too.

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This exactly.

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Again just my opinion, but once the power/sound issues are worked out that will probably get most of us on Android long term.

Right now it's usually just a few hour experimentation here and there.

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Yeah I think once sound is integrated into our new lil project the fun will just continue.. but power management does hold a high rank though..