Android, it's alive!.. (2.0.1) - Updated 12/24

[cd993]

hi, trying to get android working on my tp2 however seem to be struggling....

i have formatted my memory card appropriately, extracted the files of "Android201-122409-Ego.zip" to the root, edited the startup file seperatly with several different versions but it still won't fully boot even after leaving for 45min or more. The error it seems to display in the text is: "INFO: rpcrouter:13 blocked for more than 120 seconds" - it displays that for 120 seconds and repeast itself.

I have a RHOD100, anyone have a startup.txt for me to try?

[cd993]

Originally Posted by cd993

hi, trying to get android working on my tp2 however seem to be struggling....

i have formatted my memory card appropriately, extracted the files of "Android201-122409-Ego.zip" to the root, edited the startup file seperatly with several different versions but it still won't fully boot even after leaving for 45min or more. The error it seems to display in the text is: "INFO: rpcrouter:13 blocked for more than 120 seconds" - it displays that for 120 seconds and repeast itself.

I have a RHOD100, anyone have a startup.txt for me to try?

I give up with this SD card! Been trying far too long on and off to get android to boot on it but only ever get the error "failed to mount sd card". Ive ran Norton Disk Doctor for errors, windows scan disk for bad sectors, ive quick formatted it, fully formatted it to FAT32 with various allocation unit sizes, tried with the android files in the root, tried for the hell of it with those files in a sub folder, nothing works!!

Time to buy a new one me thinks unless anyone can offer a suggestion??

[ajac]

Originally Posted by The Machinist

HaRET is awesome, the ability to have two OS's on the same device is a clever idea. Honestly who doesn't like options? Take your WinMo to the office and boot Android on your way out! A device for all occasions!

just wish I could run another program to bring windows back without having to reboot lol

[citats]

Originally Posted by EGOvoruhk

Wrong. NAND is not all that fast. The Vogue ROMs don't run any faster than the ones via HaRET

I don't need any lessons on Nand vs. flash media, you can make yourself believe anything but the facts are very different! Below a quote from an embeded linux guy.

Originally Posted by http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=102603

Speaking from a system architecture standpoint, Nand flash is directly
mapped into the CPU's memory, so has the advantage of full bus
bandwidth, at whatever the native data rate for the Nand flash is.
The sd card's speed will be a 4 bit wide data bus at best, and that's
only if they have actually implemented the 4 bit wide mode of the sd
card. Otherwise the sd card will run at a much slower rate. As it
is, the SD card will have at best, half the speed of the directly
mapped nand flash and that's only if nand flash is 8 bits wide and the
sd card is four bits wide. The relative rates only get worse from
there.

[EGOvoruhk]

Yet somehow the Android builds running on the Vogue via HaRET look just as fast as the ones running via NAND? I guess mine and everyone else's eyes could be playing tricks on them. Lord knows I've confused 50% speed for 100% speed multiple times. Why just this very morning I thought I was going 65 on the freeway until I got pulled over for only going 30

[citats]

Originally Posted by EGOvoruhk

Yet somehow the Android builds running on the Vogue via HaRET look just as fast as the ones running via NAND? I guess mine and everyone else's eyes could be playing tricks on them. Lord knows I've confused 50% speed for 100% speed multiple times. Why just this very morning I thought I was going 65 on the freeway until I got pulled over for only going 30

LOL

Android caches heavily, if that cache resides in memory it will be fast, however these early builds as promising as they are, yet the cache seems to be going to the sd, causing pauses in executing previous commands.
I said what I did simply because it is fact not because I am against Haret, I am not and will use it when available.

[animez]

I downloaded Spb Benchmark to find out if the NAND memory is faster or not, rather than have everyone continue to lob forum grenades back and forth. I ran the read/write tests on the main memory and my 8GB Sandisk class 4 SDHC (all times are milliseconds, pasted from the xml results file);

fs=fixed storage
sc=storage card
manyfiles=10KB file x 100
largefile=1MB file

<fs-largefilewrite> 440.600000
<sc-largefilewrite> 1518.500000

<fs-largefileread> 37.100000
<sc-largefileread> 264.600000

<fs-largefilecopy> 492.600000
<sc-largefilecopyto> 326.200000
<sc-largefilecopyfrom> 472.900000

<fs-manyfileswrite> 3919.600000
<sc-manyfileswrite> 4971.400000

<fs-manyfilesread> 385.700000
<sc-manyfilesread> 555.900000

<fs-manyfilescopy> 3482.200000
<sc-manyfilescopyto> 2744.400000
<sc-manyfilescopyfrom> 2811.300000

<fs-dirlisting> 2201.400000
<sc-dirlisting> 214.900000

While some results were about what I would expect (large file tests) the SDHC holds it's own. Someone with a class 6 card should run this and post their results as well.

[newone757]

yep..........

[Noir]

but even then its still comparatively slow even on devices where the rom resides in nand memory...it runs just about the same as storage card

[Merdinh]

Originally Posted by Noir

but even then its still comparatively slow even on devices where the rom resides in nand memory...it runs just about the same as storage card

Yes that is true, but not for all microSD cards. The slowest one is Class 2 which majority own because they usually come with phones but since it did not come with the touch pro 2 people have to buy their own, and most do not know the difference. The best type of card to get is a Class 6 card because it processes alot more memory per second then a class 2 card would.