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I'm using Karvin's Clean and Simple for any Apache as well and am very happy with it but he removed MSN iirc and you stated you needed that.
I don't install any VZW stuff at all. I set up my account to use the internet and then did the updates via the #'s and *'s and was gtg. I don't do ANY texting or MMS though as those are not robust enough for my needs. Everyone I communicate with uses email and it's very simple to do that with this phone.
Can always make your own ROM too!
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