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Re: ONE CLICK & ODIN .... ANSWERS

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Originally Posted by djgallis View Post
PPC [@darren.wsln1 & @gTen ..

why do certain phones have ONE CLICK ROOT & others dnt ? is it that hard to create for all or is it that certain are built for ONE CLICK .. or am i just missing out completely on the process ... and do all SAMSUNG phones have an easy ability to get ONE CLICK more than others phones like HTC OR MOTOROLA etc etc

what about ODIN do any other phone carry the ability to flash back to stock as easy as ODIN is or what ever other name of software there is ..

if i can get an answer as a NOOB so that i can explain to others y n y not wud be great ...

again appreciate to opportunity being on PPCGEEKS and the help i have gotten from you guys, i was tryn to ROOT shift evo 2.3.3 and i was upset it didnt have a simple ONE CLICK so it brought me to my question as WHY NOT


THANK YOU IF YOU GUYS CAN EXPLAIN OR CAN NOT
When using 1 click root methods, those usually work by exploiting android..most android devices 2.2 and below use the same method to root..ragecage which is effectively the Droid Dream virus...so all android devices root exact same method, the only exception to these simple 1 clicks is HTC and Motorola. Those require their own rooting methods.

Now 2.3 also fixes the droiddream exploit..the problem you have with evo shift is evo shift and other newer HTC phones have a locked and signed bootloader + recovery image..that means every time there is an official update..to make use of it you need to do unsign the bootloader and etc..this is a lot of work..cause if its still signed..the moment you find an exploit and root your phone, then reset your phone your exploit will be erased due to the signed recovery image.

Samsung devices are not locked+signed..hence what we have is the "odin" method..aka we take a modified kernel/recovery and flash it via odin thus achieving easy root..all samsung phones are 100% rootable using this method, you don't even need an exploit.


The principle behind 1 clicks roots requires that there be "minimum" or "no" room for error..all 1 click root is, is a batch job performing multiple tasks..now imagine if in the middle something goes wrong? the 1 click has to be programmed to account for that. Some processes are too complex even for just a "1 click"..

And yes, other brands have similar tools such as nvidia has NVFlash, HTC has their RUU and etc..but from my experience Odin is the easiest one to use as far as having control.
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