[flipper2008]

Thanks for that info. Noticable in pockets.. Let me ask a different way. I'm muscular and if I have jeans or dockers, would it fit in the front pockets and be able to sit down without it breaking (havent had one in my hand yet). I'm just afraid if i get this, then tmobile will get a better android phone.

This is the problem, my company has Tmobile, i need to get a phone that is available for corporate accounts, nexus 1 is not since i need to get it with a contract and can't transfer contract to our corp account (or so they say). My company will pay for the phone so i must stick with Tmobile. I have a TON of apps for WM and good software makes a 'good' phone even better. I almost got the cliq but i didnt want such a small screen resolution 320x480 i think.

You also said battery life wasnt great... With my touch pro WITHOUT ANY phone calls and just minimized use, i would get barely 7-8 hours of use (push email though all the time) which killed the battery..