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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

I agree that no companies should be out there making a profit off of someone else's code. Now, can someone please explain to me how these guys are any different? They are making a profit off of HTC's hard work, and HTC's code. I understand they put in a lot of work to tweak HTC's code. But at the end of the day, it is still HTC's code, and HTC put a lot more work into it than they did. It is extremely hypocritical to say that it's okay for them to sell HTC's code as their own, simply because they tweaked it, and turn around and call it warez if anyone else tweaks it. They did not make this hard SPL "unlocker" or whatever you want to call it from scratch. They simply took HTC's code, tweaked it, and then put protections on it so nobody could use it without their permission. So I am not diswcounting what they did. I'm appreciative of what they did. I am just not understanding why it's okay for them to do it but it's considered warez if anyone else does. And I'm also not understanding where they have a right to charge for it.

Call HTC or your carrier and see if they will unlock your phone so you can flash whatever rom you would like too put on your TP2.....

HTC and your carrier put work in to make it so you couldn't have that ability, so I'm sure what their response will be.....

Briefly reading you sig link, you should know this!

HTC didn't put any work into giving you the ability to flash custom roms and Cmonex/Oil did....
The unlocker is their creation made from scratch....

If someone adjust the software that Cmonex/Oil made, the unlocker, then it would and should be considered warez...
Now if someone starts from scratch and makes their own software to unlock the phone, so be it, but I havn't seen anybody accomplish this yet....

Cmonex isn't selling HTC's code...
Cmonex made something to break the Carrier's/HTC's lock on your ability to do things that HTC?carriers's didn't want you to have the ability to do ......
Cmonex/Oil are offering two unlocks for free per person(upgraded last night I believe), and if there is a legit reason they will allow the unlocker to unlock it additional times....

If they don't have it setup the way they do now then others will take the Cmonex/Oil work and profit from commercially unlocking TP2's....
It has been done on prior devices with Cmonex/Oil unlocker's before....

It has already been stated that here or in the official unlock thread that a 3rd party phone dealer is already doing this....
Except the 3rd party dealer wasn't giving away anything free but was charging per unlock....

YOU ARE DISCOUNTING WHAT THEY DID and at the same time being pretty disrespectful IMO

If what they did was a simple tweak why haven't you produced one yet?
Why hasn't anyone else created one?

As far as profit I guess it depends on how you value your time and hard work....
If after spending 3 weeks creating something and you receive $1 and you consider that profit, I need to hire you to help with the kids around my house.....

I don't think we see Cmonex/Oil on any magazine's top 1000 richest ppl list anytime soon because they created a TP2 unlocker

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

Where do you draw the line though? If you have 5 lines on a family plan, that is not commercial but will they see it that way? And what makes it okay for them to use HTC's code commercially anyway, especially if they have a problem with anyone else doing the exact same thing.

5 lines with all TP2's? Sounds commercial to me unless your buying 14yr old Susie and 10 yr old Timmy a TP2 and somehow he's wants to flash it....

Seems like your just trying to push the envelope but in that case maybe you should donate since their unlocker is gonna be a huge favor to your family.....

Even in the case that your family plan is shared by friends rather than actual family the bill for the phones would come to $1000 in phones with Verizon being the cheapest, all the other US carriers the total would be $1750....
Donating $25 to unlock the all of your 5 lines and your complaining after purchasing $1000 worth of phones that came locked, hmmmmmmmmmm......
Those five people bought $1000 in phones but are complaining that donating .025% of the purchase price is too much to ask....ROFL

With that being said I guess that all of the cooks here don't deserve any donations at all for their creations either RIGHT?

Since all the cooks are doing is taking HTC's and Microsoft work and tweaking it right?

That you should just get what you want for free without any consideration that people actually did more than clink on a link and download the file to make roms/unlocking/themes possible.....

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

The problem is, someone else already posted an unlocked version and it was removed. And cmonex just told me it would be considered warez and removed if anyone else did it again. So I am left to assume that these guys have the mods in check. For some reason the mods agree that it would be warez.

If someone took anybodies work here and changed it without the softwares authors' permission then yes it would be a big NONO.....
I wouldn't use the term warez but rather it would be stealing....

I know your gonna restate that they tweaked HTC's source code but I didn't get an unlocker preinstalled on my TP2, DID YOU????

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

Let me ask you this- why would anyone else take the time to work on a hspl when the mods have already permanently removed the unlocked one that was posted here? And now we have cmonex coming into this thread announcing that it would be considered warez and removed again- why would anyone even bother?

Nobody has stepped up to make an unlocker because it isn't as easy you think it is....
If someone made an unlocker without using/stealing cmonex's/oil's program I would think it would be fine....
If PPCGEEK's didn't like that there was a free unlocker available, the free unlocker author is more than welcome to take it to another site or create their own site......

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

Having said all of that- I did pay for mine. Even though I am a residential customer, I still paid- twice.

Cmonex/Oil I'm sure appreciated your donation.....
If you would have had patience to wait you wouldn't of had to donate.....

Not to be a grammar nazi but you wouldn't be a residential customer you would of used the unlocker for your own private use....

I make spelling/grammar mistakes here all the time so not trying to be mean but I wanted to clarify .....


Last but not least why isn't this topic closed?????
I thought for sure you were gonna shut this puppy down Coz!!!