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Originally Posted by razorloves
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woopsies. my bad.
I personally don't have verizon, so I had no idea it was released!
Thanks for that info though,
good to know!!
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Originally Posted by helix139
I could care less what they do through software as that can be fixed. As long as the hardware specs are identical I will get one. If not, then see ya Verizon.
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yeah, I personally consider hardware stuff gimping, not really software.
so I agree with ya.
but highly doubt verizon won't gimp it.
just sayin, they did it to the diamond, (only good thing was adding sdcard, otherwise they really made it just a hair, and i do mean a hair, bit better than the vogue.), did it to the touch pro, and will continue to keep doing so.
those are the only two I know of off the top of my head,
as those are the most commonly talked about ones, but I'm sure there are others.
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Originally Posted by Noir
for one thing, what the company considers a restriction for offering for a service (ie tethering) I don't really consider that a gimp. Especially when you consider the xv6800. Prior to even the new radio 3.35 and 3.42, both the xv6800 and the xv6900 (on even sprint as well) did not offer gps on the device and prior to last summer/spring while we knew that it was capable it wasn't unlocked. Now this begs to question was this the result of htc and the specific phone vendors? Tough to say...
But the capability in both of your instances wasn't removed. It was locked and that is carrier specific. Not necessarily a gimp considering you arguing that it is a removal of capabilities on either a software/hardware specific. It wasn't removed, it was locked and in my eyes that is a totally different bag of tea.
While verizon chose to lock those capabilities for a fee, it was a business decision to be frank because not all consumers are power users that will hack slash, tweak modify their devices. They want now and so far with the exception of winmo users (as well as mobile-file users) it has benefitted verizon economically. So the strategy in those locks so to speak were financial. But it didn't mean it was removed from the device (gimp) because if that was the case
it wouldn't necessarily be there to begin with (much like ram on the touch pro/diamond) - it wasn't there but the examples you listed the capability was there, it was just locked down by the phone company and that happens all the time. And it exists with every phone company and most phones as well...so by that logic yes practically every company gimps their devices because
I am using an alltel, verizon, and sprint touch pro and I don't see a front face camera on mine do you? That is something specific for the initial device and it was removed (gimp) based on specifications of the phone company (heck we don't have the tech for video calls).
So again...
can we really say vzw will gimp (hardware restrict whatever) when we have no proof of it happening except touch pro/diamond 1?
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Originally Posted by redd214
i have a verizon tp, i cant stand the fact that they "gimped" (whatever your definition is) the touch pro however, first and foremost verizon is a business just as noir stated. i own a business and while i will say that i love the work that we do for people in the community, BUT the main reason i went into business for myself was to make money. as u yourself said thats verizon's main focus as it should be. our community is the minority of phone users, they arent catering to us for the most part.
its obvious that people are paying for these services so coming stricly from a business standpoint why would they stop?? if you ran verizon would u??
like i said coming from a consumer standpoint it sucks, but looking at it thru their perspective it makes perfect sense to me.
just my 2 cents...
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yeah, from a business standpoint its good.
from consumer standpoint, it sucks.
For all the non-tech people, or the non-flashers,
its gotta suck to have verizon. haha.
But that's what you get for getting a smartphone
and not knowing how to mod/tweak it to work better. haha