VZW Text Message Size Limits?

[ksann]

(Ok, I already searched the forum, and didn't see this addressed earlier)

Do any of the ROM's eliminate the 160 character limit on text messages?

According to my call into Verizon, it is not them, but the phone manufacturer. We conferenced in HTC, and they agreed that it was how the phone was programed, but they said there was no way around it.

Surely one of the enterprising people on this site gets as frustrated as I do with this limit.... (my previous Verizon (non-pda) phone had a limit of 1000 characters).


Any help?

Or am I beyond help?


ken

[kyle4269]

There are a few threads floating around here about this...But have a look at this site http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/samsu...haracters.html

[ksann]

Originally Posted by kyle4269

There are a few threads floating around here about this...But have a look at this site http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/samsu...haracters.html

Thanks, funny, I also have a Samsung i760 as my work phone, and hate it. Have never tried to see if there is a limit on SMS (which I now know there is).

The HTC guy said it was thier phone, but reading that other thread makes it seem like it is a WM issue.



Frustrated.



ken

[dimitri]

Actually all phones have 160 character limit. However, my phone will break them into multiple messages if I go over the limit.

[kyle4269]

Ken,

I've talked to a verizon service tech and he stated that its a network issue..I tested this out by having my girlfriend send me a text over 160 characters from her LG env. I got the first 160 characters and a second text saying "preceding msg modified, media objects removed". She got a text back saying "Message Delivered to *phonenumber* as plain text Destination does not support Enhanced Messaging Service" So I had a friend with a Sprint Touch Pro send me a text over 160 characters and I got the first 160 in 1 text and the remaining message is a second one.

[SolShade]

Yah my old WM5 Treo would split incoming messages fine. TP doesn't do that and it drives me crazy. Funny thing is my Treo would stop me from sending messages over 160 but my TP will auto split it into 2 or more messages if needed. Win some lose some i guess

[CozBoogie]

Moved to the general Touch Pro Forum.

late,
Coz

[Ender519]

I had a i760 from Verizon and had the same problem.. so here is the deal. After talking with many techs here is how it works.

As everyone knows, SMS is limited to 160 characters per message. EMS is required to be able to receive messages larger than 160 characters broken up.

Most non-PDA phones support EMS. Some PDA phones (notably Blackberry/Palm) generally support EMS whereas most Windows Mobile based devices do not support EMS. Whether this has to do with Verizon's device profile or with the phone itself I don't know.. but here is what happens in the practical sense in my experience.

Outbound - you CAN send more than 160 characters to any phone EXCEPT windows mobile based phones on VZW

Inbound - you CAN receive more than 160 characters from phones that are not on VZW's network. You CANNOT receive more than 160 characters from any device on VZW's network.

The reason behind this - or so I'm told - is that in general the carrier's will break up messages themselves in the interchange.. but if you're going VZW to VZW you never hit this interchange and are now reliant on your device profile within the system. I have not found a workaround.

[ginkilla]

I'm not sure if there is a registry setting for this on the Pro, but on my wife's Treo 800w I had to do this:

Increase SMS limit from 1 to 10 messages.
HKLM\software\palm\varnish\messaging\sms
MaxPartsPerMsg to 10 (from 1)

This would take the max characters from 160 to 1,600... There may be something similar in there?

[kyle4269]

I'm going to try it right now on my TP. I'll report back in a few.