Not so hard resets

d5grvty · #1 (**permalink**) 03-09-2009, 02:51 PM

Why do some problems go away after a second or third hard reset? Shouldn't a hard reset be a restore to the original (or installed) Rom.

I guess what I'm asking is what does a second or third hard reset fix? And why is there a difference?

**Riley** · #2 (**permalink**) 03-09-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by d5grvty

Why do some problems go away after a second or third hard reset? Shouldn't a hard reset be a restore to the original (or installed) Rom.

I guess what I'm asking is what does a second or third hard reset fix? And why is there a difference?

Not sure this is really needed. some have followed the theory of flashing oem shipped rom first, then flash custom rom of your choice, then hard reset one more time. Rstoyguy enlightened us that multiple hard resets are completely unnecessary. I value his judgement so going forward I am going to take his advice and just flash away unless I run into minor quirks post flash. then i will revert back to flashing oem, flashing custom, just wont do the last hard reset.

**mwalt2** · #3 (**permalink**) 03-10-2009, 12:31 AM

Yeah, it kind of seems like formatting your hard drive twice to re-install windows on a PC or flashing a bios twice for good luck. It's hard for me to imagine how erasing something, writing something, erasing something, and writing the same thing to the memory again does anything magical (not to say it's shouldn't be done, I just do not know how it could help...so I'm skeptical

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**watzone69** · #4 (**permalink**) 03-10-2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rileyd5

Not sure this is really needed. some have followed the theory of flashing oem shipped rom first, then flash custom rom of your choice, then hard reset one more time. Rstoyguy enlightened us that multiple hard resets are completely unnecessary. I value his judgement so going forward I am going to take his advice and just flash away unless I run into minor quirks post flash. then i will revert back to flashing oem, flashing custom, just wont do the last hard reset.

I've stopped doing the final hard reset as well since reading Rstoyguy's comment. So far so good.

I can't remember why I started doing that in the first place.

**rstoyguy** · #5 (**permalink**) 03-10-2009, 12:51 AM

It's basically the younger generation paying omage, respecting the knowledge and wisdom of their fore-fathers. (previous advice in archived posts) Those that originally paved the way for ppc-modifications and originally created the kitchen tools. 80-90% of them are still in most kitchens.

Unfortunately diamonds don't have an extended rom. I haven't hard reset after a flash since my mogul days. I've flashed hundreds of times with no issues.

So if you still hard-reset after you flash.... Think of those old-timers that paved the way. Might as well do something usefull with that 15 minutes your wasting...

This is a theory of a guy that kinda knows what he's doing and is IMHO, an educated O though...

**rstoyguy** · #6 (**permalink**) 03-10-2009, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by watzone69

I've stopped doing the final hard reset as well since reading Rstoyguy's comment. So far so good.

I can't remember why I started doing that in the first place.

I've had no issues. Just to clarify, the reason the hard reset was suggested back in the day...

WHen you flash a rom on a device with an extended rom (part that holds the rom image), a hard reset was recommended to ENSURE that the whole image got copied from the extended rom to phone memory in it's wholesome goodness.

Memory has since evolved to where we no longer have these issues and can flash right to phone memory. And the same RUU utility (upgraded) that checked the extended rom flash image, checks your diamonds flash image for goodness. If the image isn't copied to your device right, you'll get an error. I don't know where the flashing back to stock bit came from though....

jsvt3 · #7 (**permalink**) 03-10-2009, 01:50 AM

I have never done the hard reset after flashing, and I have done the OEM flash, then custom flash, but I have gotten lazy and don't do that either. So far no problems (crosses fingers). So I want to see what everyone says, but so far RStoyGuy seems to know his s**t pretty well.