Your Bill Whiz v1.2
 

Hi all, I am working on a Bill APP (Your Bill Whiz) for windows mobile 6.0+ and I thought I would post it here to get feedback for future versions and answer any questions.

Features:
Simple calculator
Simple tax/tips calculator
Split Bill evenly
Split Bill Individually
Add people names
Add items per person
Split Bill per Person

Features Coming:
Database to save bills


This app has been tested with windows mobile pro 6.0 -6.5.3 should work on any touch WinMo device
Tested devices: Sprint HTC Touch, Mogul, Pro, and Diamond by me

Thanks to RFlores for testing it on a TMobile Pro 2
Thanks to syrguy1969 for testing it on an Omnia i910

Your Bill v1.1 has been posted, you can download it from attachments or from WinMo Marketplace. If you like the app and want to support future versions, donate by buying Your Bill Whiz for 99c.

Please feel free to provide any feedback, I will continue to update and support this app.

Here are two youtube video on how to navigate the app.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abSrQguYdw4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjReIb7bx1o

Thanks to bugsy90 who wrote this review http://www.fuzemobility.com/your-bil...ng-done-right/

If you would like to make a standard donation of any size click here.

Please note that it is best to buy Your Bill Whiz from the mobile marketplace because you get a few perks. Note that I am not trying to make a profit from this, I will use money obtain to improve this and future WinMo apps.

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz
 

Release Notes:

Your Bill Whiz v1.2 is Here
-Ability to quickly delete party member
-Added a total to individual split
-Fixed bug that would not allow you to enter 0 for item price
-Changed icons for main menu, now current selection is gray
-Added support to add 20 Party members for individual split
-Trimed down code for faster and smaller app

Your Bill v1.1
-Updated Screen shots for this site
-Added support english non US devices
-Fixed minor bug on individual split
-Fixed bug reported on touch pro2 when using keyboard to type names
-Your Bill Whiz: Changed splash screen, it goes away quicker
-Your Bill (added splash screen asking for purchase)
-Your Bill (Settings are now visible but not editable)
-Now Avalible for download at Windows Marketplace
http://marketplace.windowsphone.com/search.aspx?keywords=bill

Requirements:

2 Mb free space
Windows Mobile Pro (touch) 6.0-6.5.3
Standard or Square screen
Portrait mode (landscape not supported)
.Net V3.5

Bugs/Issues:
-Windows Mobile Professional (touch) only
-Not ready for landscape

What am I looking for from you in this relase:
Please let me know what you think, suggestions are welcome and appriciated. Also if you find a bug let me know and I will do my best so that it's fix in next realease.


Hints
You can use the basic calculator to add up your items if you don't have a subtotal (with out taxes or tip). Then click on tax tip in the bottom right. Your total from the calculator will transfer to the Tips & Tax screen.

In tips and tax you can change Bill total, Tax total, Tips (Gratuities) total, Tax %, and Tips (Gratuities) % by clicking on them.

From the Tips & Tax screen you can click on Split to split the bill.

Your Bill v1.0 is here
-Fix many bugs
-Added Features:
-Split Bill Individually
-Add people names
-Add items per person
-Split Bill per Person
-Now Avalible for download at Windows Marketplace
http://marketplace.windowsphone.com/search.aspx?keywords=bill

Beta v0.50 Coming Soon
I am doing my best to get this release this weekend 12/6/09 current version pulled.

Beta v0.27 is here 11/5/09
-Fixed bugs reported by RFlores and levp, thanks guys
-Added support for windows mobile pro (touch) square screen devices
-Well I will improve the way it looks in future but I need testers as I don't own a device
-Change a few minor things in the interface

Beta v0.25 is here
Change data base type - I was trying to use sql, it would have made some nice reports but to slow
Revised code

Bugs/Issues:
-Bug reported by RFlores - app won't open after you make changes to tax percentage from the Bill Tax Tips screen. (I'm Looking into it for now a reinstall will fix it and change percentage using options)
-Bug reported by levp - percent in calculator does not work 100+10%= 100.1 instead of 110

Beta 0.20 Is Here(updated to 0.21)
Changes
Added Database
Your settings are now stored in database
Removed Menu from home screen change it to just exit (you must confirm exit: first rigth soft button then left)
Moved Options to bottom navigation menus
Unlock Auto Party Tips (Gratuities) - this will change your tips% when your party is > or = selected # people
Calculator and num keypad have been merged (cut code down and mem usage)
You can now make num keypad default (Only Bill, Taxes, Gratuities... for now)
I have now added new temp icons for Cal, Bill, and Options. (sorry I will make this app look better in future)
App takes longer to load (because of database) but It is more responsive and lighter then previous version.
Prepare items so that in a future release this app can work on windows mobile pro square screens
Reduced files and cab size to < .5mb, previous version was about 1mb.

Beta 0.05
-First public beta
-Basic Cal
-Basic Tip/Tax
-Basic Even Split
-Tested with Mogul, Touch, Pro, and Diamond
-Tested with 6.1, 6.5, and 6.5.1

Requirements:
3 Mb free space
Windows Mobile Pro (touch) 6.0-6.5.1 (you can try others but I have not tested)
Standard screen (not square)
Portrait mode (landscape not supported)
Latest .Net

Bugs/Issues:
-Icons not ready (windows logo) only use first two from left. First one is basic cal second tip/tax.
-Options under the menu in main screen work but do not save after app has been exited.
-After making a change in tip/tax screen and clicking home, home screen does not update. (Instead use split)
-Not ready for square screen devices
-Windows Mobile Professional (touch) only
-Not ready for landscape

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz
 

looks cool. just an fyi though, gratuity is 20% (dinning). also, how fast/easy will it be to input all the info? because if it takes too long some people can just figure it out in their head... but still, good idea.

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz
 

Don't worry I am making it so that you can quickly change tax and tips % and make them Default. I am still debating what input method to use... you will see once I post. I am hoping to have it up by Sunday night.
Thanks
JCerna

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz
 

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz
 

Thanks for the the feedback, yes you can do it the way you did it but I want to make it easier. Yes I am sorry about the menu icons at the bottom, I wil try to have something better next round.

Wirelessly posted (HTC Diamond: Opera/9.7 (WindowsMobile; PPC; Opera Mobi/35267; U; en; Presto/2.1.1))

looks pretty sweet

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz
 

Your app works better in 6.5, I just installed for a friend and the scroll bars are not so great. I guess is that in 6.5 you can scroll from the center and he has to use the side bar to scroll. The weird think is that he did not mind, I guess becuase he does not use a 6.5 phone. Anyways thanks

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz
 

Yeah it was hard for me to decide if I should keep the number scroll lists or just go with a key numpad. So rigth now I am working so you can set your preference in options. Also I don't know if I should have the numpad avalible everywhere. For example I only have it avalible in the Tax Tips windows but in the home screen to change number of people it's only a scroll list. Also in options I made a list and no number pad. I love the scroll list in 6.5 but not so much in 6.1...:-({|=

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz
 

I installed this program in a T-Mobile Pro2 and it look good. When I open the keyboard it does not but you said that. Also using arrow keys to move between links (im not sure what to call them) they are not in order it jumps all around.

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz
 

Thanks for the confirmation on the Pro2 I will wait to see if any others try it before confirming. Do you know if the phone was stock or did it have a custom ROM?

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers
 

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers
 

Thanks for the suggestion I will work on that in feature release.

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers
 

for most people gratuity is a standard percentage, i dont think it is necessary to have it at .01% unless your using the same coding for all the numbers, and you cant directly click on decimals when you want to change a number you have to click the number first then the decimal.
also maybe if you wanna add a currency converter too... in the future

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers
 

Thank you for your opinion on this and I think that you migth be right. I was trying to use one code set for all number inputs but I can see me changing this. On a similar note I have the app present both tax and gratuity as ##.###% becuase I want this app to also tell you what percentage your paying if you enter a $ amount in taxes or gratuity. I have been considering the currency converter and will most likely add one in the future.

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers
 

On the Omnia i910 this app seems to work well. Taking into account the beta status and your list of already knows issues + goals, what you have so far seems to work as advertized, doesn't have resolution issues, and seems moderately stable (I have crashed a couple times, but I can't pin it to the app alone (can't reproduce exactly)).

It may just be me, or maybe when the menu screen is tweaked it will be clearer, but for an app that is primarily based on figuring tips + bill splits, I would think it would be easier to open on the 'bill screen' first, and allow you to navigate to the calculator from there. (I can't remember what screen it started with because in looking again I may have uncovered a bug, I am stuck on the 'even/split' screen whenever I open the app.)

I also noticed you can'r enter more than $100 and change on the bill screen, and I know it may look cooler to have a scrolling choice area like it has, but maybe each digit could be altered allowing you to chose the hundreds place, the tens and the ones individually...either by scrolling menu like you have, a rolling one like another 'fruity' phone ;-) or have a numeric keypad pop-up. I know you can enter it into the calculator, but it just seems to me that by the time you get to the splitting stage you usually have the bill already and don't need to add it together to figute the tip or split.

Just my opinion, I may be in the minority, but overall....so far it is looking pretty good JCerna!!

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers
 

Thanks for the feedback; I'm glad that the app looks like it should in the Omnia. It's really hard to write an app that will work with all screen resolutions/sizes. Anyways... That is weird that the screen opens up to the split/even screen. The app should open to a blank screen and from there you should be able to either go to the calculator or the bill, I will check into that.
Also there is numeric keypad but it only shows in the Bill tip/tax screen. When you click on a number to change and the scrolling numbers bars come up you can press in the soft keyboard icon to make it show. The number pad does need a makeover but that’s later.

Re: JCerna Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers
 

OK....I see what you mean about hitting the keypad image and having the numeric pad pop-up....very nice, just what I was thinking shoulf be there!

I have noticed this time that the app opened on the bill tally screen, so It seems to get stuck on a certain screen for a while.....could be more my device than the app I guess.

It also gets more goofy the more I use it, the bill screen tends to get 'blocks' missing from it, showing the Today screen through at some points, or the numeric menu getting stuck in the 'on' position. I will look at the memory usage and see if it is doing something there. I will try to post a screenshot or two later after I get home to show you what I am trying to get at with the screen getting flukey on me!

Re: 11/2/2009 Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers Update
 

I just updated to v0.21 and I got to say much better, but I don't like that the new number lists. I set mine up to the number key pad. Over all this app is great can wait for more.

Re: 11/2/2009 Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers Update
 

Thanks for the update I have just posted the newer version, unless anyone reports a major bug I think I will move on to the other features.

Re: 11/2/2009 Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers Update
 

OK I have been I been playin with the app and I think I found a bug. When you change the percentage (not the default). And you quit the app you get an error and the app will not start. Reinstalling the app works, just thougth I would let you know. PM me when you got a new one up. (I think this migth be a "major bug"):)

Re: 11/2/2009 Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers Update
 

Thanks I will look into it... yes I will put up a version once I find the problem](*,)

Re: 11/3/2009 Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers Update
 

Maybe this was intended, but I'd like to report this anyway:

In calculator mode, percent function does not work the same way as in Windows or HTC calculators: try 100+10%=.
You should get 110, instead you will get 100.1

Re: 11/3/2009 Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers Update
 

I see what you mean that is a bug, thanks I will post a fix in next version.:)

Re: 11/5/2009 Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers Update
 

v.27 feels like your best version so far. I wil be using it this weekend on a two dinners. Now if only I could split individually... just joking I know your working on that. Just a small suggestion can you make it so I can swipe back and fort from the summary page and Bill page? I do like the pop-up menu but It will be fater to swipe your finger.

Re: 11/5/2009 Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers Update
 

This version does seem a lot smoother. The menu choices are better, more choices for the input (I really like being able to chose number scrolling or keypad in the settings) and I haven't noticed any obvious bugs or graphic glitches like from the earlier versions. The only suggestion I would make is a different openning screen...I'll mock something up later to show you what I mean (when I am home and have a graphics program to use).

Good work!

Re: 11/5/2009 Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers Update
 

OK...I had a spare moment at work, so here goes:

This would be really cool for an opening screen, but I don't know if it would be all that easy to make it look good on all resolutions:http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...69/jcerna2.png

This is pretty basic, but I think a screen like this (maybe some tweaking to it) would really add some gloss and add to the 'finger-friendly' effect as well:http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...69/JCerna1.png

Re: 11/5/2009 Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers Update
 

Thanks for the mock up I like the first screen, the only problem is making this screen look consistent in all devices. Also I need to create logos and icons to go with this app so that I won’t have copyright problems in the future. I do want to make this app available in the Microsoft app store when I’m done. As soon as I finish writing the individual split part of this app I will start touching up it’s looks. I hope to have something by the end of this week.

Re: 11/5/2009 Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers Update
 

don t work today on french rom orange,i try to flash with another ron an d i give you the result of test

Re: 11/5/2009 Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers Update
 

Thanks for trying it out I am currently working on a big update to this. I had not had a chance to test other non US roms so thanks for doing that.

Re: 11/5/2009 Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers Update
 

I'm a .net developer but I haven't worked on mobile devices. Could you make a couple different start screens that you could display one or another depending on the screen size? That should help your issue with making it look the same across different devices. (I run a Vogue with sprint for your records of what people are using... it looks great on the device btw)

I just downloaded and I look forward to trying it out today. When splitting is selected you could ask for the number of people in party and then after that selection, pop up the calculator where you have the person add in the prices for his/hers items and when you're done you click "go to next person" and add that persons stuff. Make sure to have first/last previous/next buttons on the bottom (you know |< < > >| style) so you can go from one person to the next.

I'm not a huge fan of the current menu system, but if you work in a start screen like what was posted, you could have stuff launched from that page and then have back to menu buttons.

For bugs: I experienced an issue when I set input to numpad when I clicked on the numpad button to make the keyboard go away, it would open my regular keyboard instead. I'm running Vin's rom on my vogue (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=50712) but I'm not on the very latest version of it so it may be a bug of the on screen keyboard. I'll let you know once I update it.

Sorry for being wordy, hope this helps!

Re: 11/5/2009 Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers Update
 

Thanks for your feedback
It does not really work that way with mobile devices, there is just a lot math to do. I have to tell the app to resize and reposition items depending on resolution. This can is easy if you do a .cab file for each but I am trying to make one .cab file that will work with all or as many windows mobile devices as possible and becuase of that I am limited in a few things.

This is what I been working on for that pass weeks, I should have the new version up this weekend I hope. Instead of using a the calculator I made it so you can just add items prices (the calculator is a little faster but I wanted to be able to have a summary of items per person) I am going to add <> arrows later for now (secret) if you have win6.5 you can swipe your finger left or rigth to go back or foward.(do this only just on top of the menu button at the bottom)

I agree and disagree, I am not compleatly happy with the menu system either but I do like that it helps with going back and forth. (This will become more clear as the complete the app.) I do want a better home screen, but I don't think I want to have to go back to it everytime. Once I complete the app and get more feedback I will try to find something that works better.

It's not really a bug, but I did want to make that happen (regular keyboard will be use to enter peoles name etc)... maybe you can help me make this happen. So you press to edit an amount and the Number Key Pad opens. I have it set for you to click Done on the left to submmit and Cancel on the rigth to cancel. If you click on the keyboard icon should it:
Hide the Number Key Pad and Cancel or Hide the Number Key Pad and submmit

No problem it helps I do read the feedback because I'm not allways rigth
Thanks

Re: 11/5/2009 Your Bill Whiz Need Beta Testers Update
 

I sometimes accidentally click on the input menus, and I would assume that by clicking the close keyboard button, it would close the visual keyboard so i can see the screen. Can you just hide the numberpad key without submitting or cancelling? That way it acts like other applications do with keyboards.

With the device I have when the keyboard is up I don't have that much room to see the rest of the app. I find myself closing the keyboard a ton to actually see what's going on the page, and then many times I'll click on it again and finish input. Does that make sense?

Re: 02/03/2010 Your Bill Whiz v1.0
 

Sorry I been out of town but here it is v1.0, let me know how you like it or don't. I will be working on giving it a better look now...

Re: 02/03/2010 Your Bill Whiz v1.0
 

I thought you had died or something, I had not been checking this site for a while either and got an email with your update. I'll try it out.:)

Re: 02/03/2010 Your Bill Whiz v1.0
 

No not dead but really busy, let me know what you think

Your Bill Whiz v1.0 02/04/2010
 

Just as a heads up I have added this app to the Windows Mobile Market Place. So if you don't want to download the cab then transfer to your phone you can get it sent to the Mobile Market Place app here:
http://marketplace.windowsphone.com/...eywords=jcerna

Re: 02/03/2010 Your Bill Whiz v1.0
 

Lol I had not installed it because I was to lazy to go and get a cable now I just got in from the Market Place :headbang:. I see you have a version that you are charging 99c... will think about it:)

Re: 02/03/2010 Your Bill Whiz v1.0
 

No problem to my defense I did not want to charge at all but I also want to make more projects and well they cost money. No im sure at this rate I will get back the money that I spent on this ](*,) :)

Re: Your Bill Whiz v1.0 02/05/2010
 

New version posted v1.1 also youtube video added see first post.