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frazell 07-12-2009 02:25 PM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
I use push email on my phone via Exchange server 2007 (and soon 2010)...

I'm not sure I understand the point of services like seven. You end up having a useless middleman in the mix. As the seven server will pool your real email server every 5, 10, 20, etc. minutes and then deliver what it finds to your phone instantly. You can setup your phone to do that delayed pull on its own.

Push email is only useful if the server your email is hosted on directly is capable of pushing it. Otherwise you don't have "instant" email and the whole ordeal is worthless.

brownhornet 07-12-2009 11:44 PM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
Yea I setup the sprint push mail with my yahoo account and I really dont see much of a difference from when I had the regular imap set to check every 15 minutes. Definitely isnt immediate though...

Devileyezz 07-13-2009 12:38 AM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tsousan (Post 1031038)
Like most have mentioned, push email eats up your battery. I have switched mine to every 20 hours. Now my battery will last over 24 hours; when set to push it wouldn't even last 6 hours.

That's the thing though, sneaky technologies where server sends your device an encrypted text that basically says "YO, I have an email waiting for you.. run a send/rcv" is ingenius, because data connection is made only when the device gets the green signal. Those are technologies I want to see in the mainstream.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazell (Post 1031154)
I use push email on my phone via Exchange server 2007 (and soon 2010)...

I'm not sure I understand the point of services like seven. You end up having a useless middleman in the mix. As the seven server will pool your real email server every 5, 10, 20, etc. minutes and then deliver what it finds to your phone instantly. You can setup your phone to do that delayed pull on its own.

Push email is only useful if the server your email is hosted on directly is capable of pushing it. Otherwise you don't have "instant" email and the whole ordeal is worthless.

1) Exchange Server 2007 or 2010 doesn't matter because Windows Mobile (6.1, and 6.5) currently supports ONE ActiveSync account. Meaning no push for more than 1 email a/c. So people usually use their work email for this.

2) Seven actually doesn't poll the servers. The servers send out an "event" to any client (some of them even to a browser) saying new mail has been received. Seven intercepts this, and relays it to the client on the device. This event is what makes your MSN Messenger, or Yahoo Messenger chime saying "You just got mail". No, reality is actual push.. not pull.

While I partly agree with your 3rd statement, I don't think it is even easy to find a server that's "capable" of pushing. Exchange is well known for this, and maybe a few other softwares, but that's about it. Push is very useful in fast-paced business environments and are very appreciated. Personal email is almost on par with "fast-paced" requirements (atleast mine is, lol), so push would be an asset!

whoahh 07-13-2009 01:12 PM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
I've been currently using Seven since it became available a few months ago. I must say it's pretty sweet. It takes a less that a few mintues to recieve my mail, and it takes much less battery life. I got 4 email accounts synced up to it currently.

DarkLord 07-13-2009 01:24 PM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
i have to admit, i have NO idea how SEVEN works. what i do know is that i don't have push email at my office so i setup outlook to "pull" every 5 minutes. SEVEN on my phone consistantly tells me i have email before my office computer. The only thing about SEVEN that sucks is that i can't sent with my ATT account because ATT somehow has SEVEN blocks for outgoing and SEVEN doesn't allow a different sending server other than that setup by the main account. So my work around is that i have a totally seperate ATT account setup that never never check for email. Once SEVEN tells me i have email on my ATT account and if it's an email i want to return, i switch to the seperate ATT account, pull the email in and return it from there. It's a little hokey but it works.

cymbaliner 07-17-2009 10:34 AM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baffles (Post 1029196)
I use nuevasync. I'm part of their private gmail-push beta. It looks promising, still needs some work though, but for the most part it works.

How's the nuevasync-via-exchange push solution affecting your battery life, Baffles?


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