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psycho_maniac 07-09-2009 12:17 AM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
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Originally Posted by lgmayka (Post 1022680)
I installed a Gmail account on my Touch Pro, but could not get it to work well. IMAP kept locking up my phone, and POP wanted to download all thousands of messages in my Gmail account.

My conclusion was that Gmail has a bizarre model of email (everything is archived, never deleted) which is incompatible with POP; and Windows Mobile does not support IMAP well.

make sure you have your email setup for IMAP and that IMAP is enabled on your gmail account.

Lancerz 07-09-2009 01:48 AM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
Does anyone not use the free hotmail push email? I just forward my comcast emails to my @live email address and it works perfectly without having to install any other software. You get emails within 2-5 seconds after them being sent.

rtandon87 07-09-2009 03:21 AM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
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Originally Posted by Lancerz (Post 1023930)
Does anyone not use the free hotmail push email? I just forward my comcast emails to my @live email address and it works perfectly without having to install any other software. You get emails within 2-5 seconds after them being sent.

Well, a solution like that would not work for me because of 2 reasons:
1st yahoo mail - free does not support mail forwarding
2nd if I forward mail from both my gmail accounts and my yahoo account (hypothetically) to live and just setup live on my phone, then everytime I'll send an email to someone it will say From: xxxxx@live.com and not the email address that it was sent from.

lgmayka 07-09-2009 10:35 AM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by psycho_maniac (Post 1023768)
make sure you have your email setup for IMAP and that IMAP is enabled on your gmail account.

Yes, I did that, and it kind-of worked, but acted very buggy. The root problem, I think, is that IMAP wants to synchronize the header of every email message in the account; but Gmail keeps all email forever. Gmail's model is really just incompatible with all existing software.

Gmail provides a Java application for cell phones, but it's laughably brain-damaged. (It's meant for dumb phones, not Windows Mobile.)

As you can probably tell from the tone of this post, I have reluctantly decided to go back to my MSN account for email, even though it has its own problems. (MSN recently plunged me into an 18-hour email outage, which was the reason I switched to Gmail temporarily.)

I could live with a stand-alone Gmail application on Windows Mobile, but it would have to be native rather than Java and full-featured rather than brain-damaged.

lgmayka 07-09-2009 10:40 AM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerz (Post 1023930)
Does anyone not use the free hotmail push email? I just forward my comcast emails to my @live email address and it works perfectly without having to install any other software. You get emails within 2-5 seconds after them being sent.

This has a known serious bug with no reasonable workaround:

http://blogs.msdn.com/wlfwm/default.aspx
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If you are signed in to Windows Live Messenger on your PC and your status is “Online” or “In a call” you could see interruption of push mail working on your device.
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If you are signed in to Windows Live Messenger on your Windows Mobile phone you could see interruption of push mail working on your device.
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Devileyezz 07-11-2009 02:23 AM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerz (Post 1023930)
Does anyone not use the free hotmail push email? I just forward my comcast emails to my @live email address and it works perfectly without having to install any other software. You get emails within 2-5 seconds after them being sent.

I use it. It's setup for you when you first run the "Windows Live" app, right? However, I'm afraid that it runs a persistent data connection to the internet causing a battery drain.

Baffles 07-11-2009 11:47 AM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
I use nuevasync. I'm part of their private gmail-push beta. It looks promising, still needs some work though, but for the most part it works.

bit1 07-11-2009 02:44 PM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
For those of you asking about SEVEN Beta Client. The best part about it for me is that I can connect to my work email using Outlook Web Access. My Iphone friends get soo mad that they cannot get their work email in its native format with attachements etc from work as our company will not allow Iphones on the mail serve. :P

Lancerz 07-12-2009 02:41 AM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtandon87 (Post 1024059)
Well, a solution like that would not work for me because of 2 reasons:
1st yahoo mail - free does not support mail forwarding
2nd if I forward mail from both my gmail accounts and my yahoo account (hypothetically) to live and just setup live on my phone, then everytime I'll send an email to someone it will say From: xxxxx@live.com and not the email address that it was sent from.

You can set it up so that when you send emails it uses a different email address, when i send emails with my @live address it shows them as being sent from my @comcast email. Just set whatever email address you want to be the main one as the default email address.

Rusty Duck 07-12-2009 01:38 PM

Re: Why not use push email?
 
Like most have mentioned, push email eats up your battery. I have switched mine to every 20 hours. Now my battery will last over 24 hours; when set to push it wouldn't even last 6 hours.


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