TouchPal 4.0 Officially Released 5/20/08

[robotphood]

Originally Posted by guitardoc64

That's not the patch layout. It won't install till you soft reset. Once it's there you should have the familiar layout of symbols. The patch BTW came from the TouchPal forum. I have the SDK tools and am working on tweaking it a bit. I am open for suggestions, so post them!!

Oh I know. That's the default layout. I was just pointing out how odd it was to assign to symbols twice basically.

[guitardoc64]

Originally Posted by robotphood

Oh I know. That's the default layout. I was just pointing out how odd it was to assign to symbols twice basically.

Yeah, I had pointed that out to them too. I still think we'll see them revert to a more classic layout when it's all said and done. I sure haven't let up in my emails to Michael that V4 was released too early with the crap layout. The patch is a bandage to try and "save face" but it's not a total fix. I bet I'm back to 3.5 within a couple of days (Glad I saved the files).

Edit: Nah, I'm gonna revert now....Sent them an email to that effect too.

[robotphood]

I'm going to stick with it a little longer. Not sure if the responsiveness is placebo or actually there but I do like it. I miss a few things from the layout but overall your patch extended my "trial" period a bit longer.

[jmorton10]

Originally Posted by guitardoc64

Edit: Nah, I'm gonna revert now....Sent them an email to that effect too.

I reverted last night, I decided I don't like anything they changed in the new version. The thing is, all the "patches" listed just do things to revert it back to version 3.5

As far as speed, to me they are identical (both are fast as hell)

~John

[guitardoc64]

I agree John. 3.5 is just as fast, has user configuration that works better for me and others like yourself. The only thing about V4 that I saw as an improvement was the prediction, and that wasn't by much. I think the focus of V4 was the full qwerty and if I used that I might as well use FingerKeyboard.

[Devileyezz]

Originally Posted by guitardoc64

Yeah, I have suggested that to them to just bite the bullet and redo V4 from the ground up. Even with the patches, I'm starting to agree with jmorton10. It's not that the program's much better, in many ways it isn't. There were too many things to like about 3.5 that just worked. I had told them way back when it was released that the program was getting to be too large a footprint with all the help files etc, and this one's even bigger. Hell I think the only reason they even released the patch is because I threatened to blast them in this foum and at xda and pull my support. V4 isn't the expansion/upgrade that we all hoped it would be, and I feel they're trying to cover theit a$$.

I agree. I think they had a long vacation for a long time till people started going nuts for an update. To pacify the rowdy crowd, they whipped up some cosmetic changes and mild under-the-hood changes and released it in form of a new version.

I'm certain not a lot of plannin/execution went into v4.

[guitardoc64]

Originally Posted by Devileyezz

I agree. I think they had a long vacation for a long time till people started going nuts for an update. To pacify the rowdy crowd, they whipped up some cosmetic changes and mild under-the-hood changes and released it in form of a new version.

I'm certain not a lot of plannin/execution went into v4.

Actually I think it was the fact that they spent all their time developing the Android version. It appears to me that some of the changes are copied over from that. The basic layout of the android version is the qwerty keyboard. It appears the V4 T-9 keyboars is the qwerty with a skin that makes it "look" like the T9 but doesn't have the 4+ way slide that the V3 keyboard does. In V2, V3, and V3.5 it allows an up/down slide for numbers. The 3.5 touch system is VERY efficient because it allows access to a lot more than just letters. I found my breaking point with V4 was due mainly to having to change to this screen and swipe till I got the symbol I wanted and it just took longer. Things that I did like was the disable keyboard switch by swipe, the slightly better word prediction/correction and the dictionary toggle. Even then, those additions were at the cost of useability. I also hated the fact that I had to patch it to make it work for me. Don't get me wrong, I like skinning apps and tweaking PPCs but I never had to patch TouchPal till now, and I just can't get over how complaints like mine, jmorton10 and many others only got addressed with a cheesy patch, instead of going back to what has worked for them and made their SIP useable and unique.

[aikidoka]

I like v4 for the most part but they removed yahoo.com and a few others which is a bit irritating.

[mikeinstlouis]

I installed the 4.0 version and am thinking about switching back. For instance I was typing the word "bud". The only option that they give me is "Bud" With the Captial B. I went to the user dictionary and added "bud" but that does not show up as an option. In fact, NONE of the words added to the dictionary show up as options. Am I doing something wrong?

Also, taking away the yahoo.com etc sucks. Those were great.

[mikeinstlouis]

Quick question...does anyone know how to edit the english.img file? There are some mistakes in the dictionary and I wanted to correct them. I think the dictionary is there.