DEBUNKED - Funny way to get CC#'s.

[DarkAngelFR]

Hello,
I'm the creator of this app...You can use anything that has a credit card size. People saying it's sending data over the net are just stupid!! source code is open on codeplex ( http://darkruler.codeplex.com ) and the only internet connection is for auto update : go to the option menu and disable if you don't want it!
funny to see comments from people who don't know what they are talking about!!!! to them : setup on a device emulator, take a picture and monitor network traffic (NetMonitor from microsoft should be a good start) : if you find any "personal" data there tell me!!!!!
See Ya',
DarkAngel

@moderators : could you please edit the post from chronster : this is like an insult to me, I know he is the only responsible for what he is saying but I take it as a personal offense.

[chronster]

Originally Posted by DarkAngelFR

Hello,
I'm the creator of this app...You can use anything that has a credit card size. People saying it's sending data over the net are just stupid!! source code is open on codeplex ( http://darkruler.codeplex.com ) and the only internet connection is for auto update : go to the option menu and disable if you don't want it!
funny to see comments from people who don't know what they are talking about!!!! to them : setup on a device emulator, take a picture and monitor network traffic (NetMonitor from microsoft should be a good start) : if you find any "personal" data there tell me!!!!!
See Ya',
DarkAngel

@moderators : could you please edit the post from chronster : this is like an insult to me, I know he is the only responsible for what he is saying but I take it as a personal offense.

A personal offense? I don't even know you why would you take it personally.

You cleared it up, I edited the first post, it was all just a funny observation at how you were specific to say credit card. People said it makes an internet connection after the photo and suddenly I realized this was could be a hilarious way to get CC#'s.

Don't take offense.

[DarkAngelFR]

Originally Posted by lawmangrant

oh wow....
Good scheme. Different than the usual phishing page. But I hope someone doesnt get caught up in this.

Originally Posted by mwalt2

He probably will not have the CVC number or billing addresses, so hopefully not too many will get burned by it. It is creative though .

Originally Posted by jason25

Why wouldn't you just lay your card face down?! good idea to catch those too trustworthy people out there.

Originally Posted by Priest

To make sure that the picture of your credit card is sized correctly for comparison, it is probably best to take a photo of the front, and then another of the back! LOL

Originally Posted by demonlordoftheround

I didn't the French were so devious.

Originally Posted by nautica2450

thas just crazy!!! lol i actually thought it was pretty clever using the credit card to set the scale... but the rest is just devious!

Originally Posted by saumaun

Holy crapola, that's pretty smart. I'm not gonna lie! But really, there's not much he can do without your CVV2 [unless he has a generator for that]

Originally Posted by chronster

A personal offense? I don't even know you why would you take it personally.

You cleared it up, I edited the first post, it was all just a funny observation at how you were specific to say credit card. People said it makes an internet connection after the photo and suddenly I realized this was could be a hilarious way to get CC#'s.

Don't take offense.

After hours of development, many mail/posts/comments to make this the best for users, please before posting this kind of message be carefull and if you have doubts : contact the author or post a message saying that you feel scarry, don't post directly this kind of "warning" to users!! the day you will really find a bad application nobody will believe you!!!

And sorry but yes I take this PERSONAL : you wrote that I'm trying to steal informations from users without any proof of this, without trying to verify, without contacting the author...how would you react ?

[chronster]

Originally Posted by DarkAngelFR

And sorry but yes I take this PERSONAL : you wrote that I'm trying to steal informations from users without any proof of this, without trying to verify, without contacting the author...how would you react ?

You're just a screenname on the internet to me. You should NOT take this personal. If I knew you and talked with you every step of the way through the development of this app, and came out and blatantly said YES THIS STEALS CC#'s, then you could take it personally. I'm sorry if I offended you, but it wasn't my goal to offend the author, just bring to light the possibility of a scam.

I never said it actually stole credit card numbers, I only showed the comments page for the download link, and how people were reporting that a connection is being made after the picture is taken.

Again, as I've said throughout this entire thread, you should probably choose your words better. I know it seems silly, but to say "USING A CREDIT CARD" instead of something as simple as even "USING SOMETHING THE SIZE OF A CREDIT CARD" can, for some, be the difference between downloading your app, and finding it very suspicious.

Out of curiosity, what language are you using to program this app?

[InvincibleLiving]

Originally Posted by DarkAngelFR

After hours of development, many mail/posts/comments to make this the best for users, please before posting this kind of message be carefull and if you have doubts : contact the author or post a message saying that you feel scarry, don't post directly this kind of "warning" to users!! the day you will really find a bad application nobody will believe you!!!

And sorry but yes I take this PERSONAL : you wrote that I'm trying to steal informations from users without any proof of this, without trying to verify, without contacting the author...how would you react ?

welcome to the site... sorry for the rocky start. i admit i didnt research the claim on my own, but i also trust Chronsters discernment overall, and can say with certainty that his misunderstanding was not an attack on you or your work personally.

So lets move forward and put this behind us... we've all got lessons to learn from this exchange...

[littlerichie29]

should point out this is a program being developed at XDA

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436725

I don't believe it is trying to take your card info, as there have been no reports of it over at XDA

[chronster]

Originally Posted by littlerichie29

should point out this is a program being developed at XDA

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436725

I don't believe it is trying to take your card info, as there have been no reports of it over at XDA

Well here's the thing. First, he says "using a credit card and a camera." With as many untrusting people as there are out there, I woulda said wallet sized card. Then people say it tries to connect to the internet after snapping a photo. These reports could be false of course.

The whole idea of using this app to steal CC#'s just seems so funny to me though which is why I posted. He definitely needs to reword his app description lol.

[InvincibleLiving]

thas just crazy!!! lol i actually thought it was pretty clever using the credit card to set the scale... but the rest is just devious!

[lawmangrant]

well, setting a scale via credit card would be easy to set, they are standard sizes. But it should say flip it over or something.

As for using a business card, they are not set standards, as they might be cut differnt and what not. I can see the reasoning, but I still ain't gonna do it.

[[sammich]]

Holy crapola, that's pretty smart. I'm not gonna lie! But really, there's not much he can do without your CVV2 [unless he has a generator for that]