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bast525 03-01-2009 11:49 PM

Comparing Opera Mobile 9.5 builds, only one I know with full Java support!
 
I keep seeing people posting new Opera Mobile 9.5 builds, and everyone wants to always know oh does Flash work can I watch videos blah blah... waste of time.

Yeah the Flash Lite plug in works on some of the Opera builds but it's rediculously slow, any time you load a page with flash it usually chugs like crazy.

But one thing no one ever seems to mention or care about is the JAVA support, like support for Java applets. I have tried a LOT of Opera builds and so far only one that I've tried has really good Java applet support, as well as being the only one I've seen with the option in the settings menu to force Desktop mode, which causes most sites to load their full versions instead of loading the mobile version.

For anyone that has a Hotmail account you can test this out... try to load hotmail in most Opera builds and you can see your inbox but can't click on any mail. Or load a site like CNET and on the main page the animating applet with the top stories doesn't animate and the text is jumped.

If you want the best browsing experience on your PPC, I strongly suggest you hunt down Conflipper's Opera 9.5 build 15529!!! This build has VERY GOOD Java Applet support. Hotmail works great, CNET works great, embedded chat applets in sites that have them work great. Of course, flash still doesn't work fully, but still you get a LOT more of the 'real web' with the much better Java support!

Sorry if this came off as a bit of a rant... I just didn't get why no one seemed to care and everyone settles for these inferior builds of Opera.

Wizzard 03-02-2009 02:20 AM

Re: Comparing Opera Mobile 9.5 builds, only one I know with full Java support!
 
And you would find this where, please.

Thank you

and yes, I did search!

lawmangrant 03-02-2009 02:25 AM

Re: Comparing Opera Mobile 9.5 builds, only one I know with full Java support!
 
bast, is this the leaked opera from TP2? Or an Omina build? Where did you get it?

pdx77 03-02-2009 02:46 AM

Re: Comparing Opera Mobile 9.5 builds, only one I know with full Java support!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzard (Post 747759)
And you would find this where, please.

Thank you

and yes, I did search!

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...519#post670519

just for an FYI, orb3000 over @ XDA has a list of all known Opera Mobile 9.5 builds:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502

The leaked version from the TP2 is 15613

bast525 03-02-2009 01:02 PM

Re: Comparing Opera Mobile 9.5 builds, only one I know with full Java support!
 
Thanks for posting that link. Sorry I didnt post it but I couldnt remember if I got it from XDA or here. But yeah that is the build you want, make sure and get the one posted by Conflipper. That is by far the best Opera build out of over a dozen that I have tried.

Wizzard 03-02-2009 07:15 PM

Re: Comparing Opera Mobile 9.5 builds, only one I know with full Java support!
 
Thanks all but, I need a QVGA version.

pdx77 03-02-2009 07:32 PM

Re: Comparing Opera Mobile 9.5 builds, only one I know with full Java support!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzard (Post 749222)
Thanks all but, I need a QVGA version.

All you really need to do to make it work for QVGA Devices is take a qvga standard_skin.zip and put it in Windows\Opera9\skin. also opera.ini needs to be edited for the qvga zoom levels.

freeza 03-02-2009 08:03 PM

Re: Comparing Opera Mobile 9.5 builds, only one I know with full Java support!
 
The build you're recommending seems cool but

Cons

Blank-home page
No Auto Rotate
No Touch Wheel

The first two cons I don't care about, but does no touch wheel mean you can't zoom into pages by circling the wheel? If so no thanks...

bast525 03-02-2009 09:54 PM

Re: Comparing Opera Mobile 9.5 builds, only one I know with full Java support!
 
does zooming with the circle mean that much to you vs zooming by slidling up or down on the right edge of the screen? The zoom feature in this build works great and is very easy, yet totally transparent... it is only visible when you use it then fades off the screen.

If I have to trade zooming with the circle pad for fully functioning Java applets and far better compatibility with more pages without sacrificing the ability to smoothly zoom in and out (to almost any amount, with auto word wrap!). that seems like a no brainer to me.

freeza 03-02-2009 09:57 PM

Re: Comparing Opera Mobile 9.5 builds, only one I know with full Java support!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bast525 (Post 749535)
does zooming with the circle mean that much to you vs zooming by slidling up or down on the right edge of the screen? The zoom feature in this build works great and is very easy, yet totally transparent... it is only visible when you use it then fades off the screen.

If I have to trade zooming with the circle pad for fully functioning Java applets and far better compatibility with more pages without sacrificing the ability to smoothly zoom in and out (to almost any amount, with auto word wrap!). that seems like a no brainer to me.

Well, I have the following browsers:
PIE
Opera Mobile
Opera Mini
Skyfire
Iris

One out of those will work if the other one won't on a specific webpage, so yeah i'd prefer to have zoom via wheel capabilities.


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