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jmorton10 02-05-2009 02:19 PM

Backup software testing
 
I have been tryout out all the different BU softwares lately (Resco, SPB, Sprite & SK Tools) & my latest test was doing a restore with Resco BU.

I have a spare TouchPro flashed with Scott Scrosler's standard ROM. I made a current BU of it with Resco & then hard reset it & told Resco to restore it.

What happened next was kinda weird. Resco gives you a screen saying you should hard reset before a restore. I had just done that so it should have been good to go.

One thing I noticed immediately was that even though I had backed up the system with Resco three times, there was only one BU file listed. Apparently, it overwrote the old file each time without asking me if that's what I wanted. That kinda scares me because if that particular file had been corrupted I might have been out of luck.

I told it to go ahead & restore which didn't go real well. It took FOREVER to restore & seemed to freeze up a couple times during the restore. When it was done & restarted, I had to click off probably six errors in a row & then TF3D refused to load.

At that point, just out of curiosity I opened Resco from the start menu & ran another restore without hard resetting first so all it did was overwrite what it had just restored. Much to my surprise, when it restarted this time there where no errors & everything including TF3D worked just fine.........

~John

jmorton10 02-05-2009 02:21 PM

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I'll be doing exactly the same test tonight with SPB & Sprite if I get the time.

~John

shaun0207 02-05-2009 02:23 PM

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Wow. Sounds pretty screwed up. I use SPB Backup and haven't been disappointed yet.

freeza 02-05-2009 02:28 PM

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+1 for SPB Backup. Been using it for years.

Definitely recommend it, even over Sprite.

jmorton10 02-05-2009 02:33 PM

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I did have a problem with SPB last week while I was doing some early testing. For some reason SPB always seems to hang up forever on the restore.vol (or something like that) file near the end of any restore (it did the same thing in my old Titan). It then asks you if you still want to continue the restore or abort (I can't imagine why you would want to abort a restore). After saying OK, it then continues on & everything is fine.

Last week however, I got another error screen shortly after the first one saying the restore had "timed out". There was no option other than to say OK (& the progress bar was NOT all the way to the end). I had never seen this happen before, but I said OK & the system restarted & the funny thing is everything seemed to work fine at that point.......

~John

freeza 02-05-2009 02:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jmorton10 (Post 692032)
I did have a problem with SPB last week while I was doing some early testing. For some reason SPB always seems to hang up forever on the restore.vol (or something like that) file near the end of any restore (it did the same thing in my old Titan). It then asks you if you still want to continue the restore or abort (I can't imagine why you would want to abort a restore). After saying OK, it then continues on & everything is fine.

Last week however, I got another error screen shortly after the first one saying the restore had "timed out". There was no option other than to say OK (& the progress bar was NOT all the way to the end). I had never seen this happen before, but I said OK & the system restarted & the funny thing is everything seemed to work fine at that point.......

~John

How weird.....i've never had any of those issues.

Maybe you've got a program running in the background that locks access to particular files that SPB is trying to backup/restore?

I usually do my backups/restores with as little running (If any at all) as possible.

shaun0207 02-05-2009 02:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by freeza (Post 692016)
+1 for SPB Backup. Been using it for years.

Definitely recommend it, even over Sprite.

Yeah, i use to use Sprite and it wasnt very good with restoring all apps.

shaun0207 02-05-2009 02:39 PM

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When yu restoruing, uncheck the box to "Stop Process in the Background" and that will stop happening. It will also help it restore quicker

jmorton10 02-05-2009 03:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shaun0207 (Post 692040)
Yeah, i use to use Sprite and it wasn't very good with restoring all apps.

I think one thing I have proved (to myself anyway) is that different systems will react differently to what BU program is used & anyone buying one should try the free trial first.

I had three Titans (VZ xv6800's) previous to my 2 TouchPro's that I was constantly flashing & restoring etc etc. They where FULLY loaded with apps/programs etc. At that time I tried out both SPB & Sprite.

The first restore I did with Sprite was a complete disaster. The system ran, but it was full off errors, the home screen came up as a putrid shade of yellow etc etc etc. At that point, I restored it with SPB & it ran perfectly so from that point on SPB was all I ever used.

Now, testing in my TouchPro's I am getting quite a bit different results. Both SPB & Sprite have been updated since my 6800 days & I am using the latest versions of both. I recently backed up one TP & then restored that BU to the other TP. I had flashed that TP with a different ROM making the restore about as challenging as possible.

In that case, Sprite was the clear cut winner. The Sprite restored system ran perfectly in every detail (I didn't even have to redo my five email accounts). The SPB restored system went into an endless loop refusing to load TF3D & the email accounts did not work at all.

I really load up my systems with apps/tweaks/programs etc & a BU system that works perfectly is REALLY REALLY important to me. I have like 3 months of tweaking etc done to my current setup & there is NO WAY I'm doing it all over again so the ability to restore it is vital to me.

Since I have a spare phone, I am going to keep hard resetting it & restoring with different programs until I figure out which setup I think is the most dependable & I will post all the results here. I have no allegiance whatever to any particular program so I am really unbiased, what people do with the info I post is totally up to them. I don't care what system somebody else uses & I don't want to waste time arguing with anybody about it. I hate it when I see people make statements like "SPB is the best" with no details whatever to back up the statement.

~John

HBOOT 02-05-2009 05:58 PM

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:laughing3:Ah this is still going on, gr8 testing Mr.Morton. Best statement is to use free trial and make a pick. I have ben using all three for a while and none have failed me yet

jmorton10 02-05-2009 06:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hbenz2008 (Post 692586)
:laughing3:Ah this is still going on, gr8 testing Mr.Morton. Best statement is to use free trial and make a pick.

LOL, I figured you would get a kick out of it.......

~John

shaggylive 02-05-2009 06:25 PM

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interested to see what u find. i gave up on them all togeather, just put my tweaks into shashimi, but thats a little clumsy.

jmorton10 02-05-2009 06:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggylive (Post 692662)
interested to see what u find. i gave up on them all togeather, just put my tweaks into shashimi, but thats a little clumsy.

Yea, that's certainly the best way to do it but I never figured out how to use sashimi & there is no way I was going to rebuild this system from scratch.......

~John

steelersmb 02-05-2009 08:57 PM

Re: Backup software testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freeza (Post 692016)
+1 for SPB Backup. Been using it for years.

Definitely recommend it, even over Sprite.

Same here. Been using it for a long time and have done a lot of restores with it and never had a problem.

jmorton10 02-06-2009 11:11 AM

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I am still testing different scenarios. My BU phone is a two week old TP flashed to scrosler's standard ROM & absolutely LOADED with apps/programs etc.

This morning, I did a new BU with SPB & then hard reset it. I then did a "full restore" with SPB BU. The restore claimed it was successful, but it is now stuck at this screen (& I soft reset it about 6 times):

http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/o...creen01-10.png

This has happened to me more than once now with SPB. I NEVER had any problems like this when I used SPB on my older Titan's. I just hard reset it again & it is in the process of restoring again to see if it makes any difference (it shouldn't, but in the past I have found that it sometimes produces a different result the second time)

~John

HBOOT 02-06-2009 12:41 PM

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could the prob be tf3d, I dont use it so never have that prob...lol:laughing3:

jmorton10 02-06-2009 01:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hbenz2008 (Post 694449)
could the prob be tf3d, I dont use it so never have that prob...lol:laughing3:

Yea, everything else seemed to work OK but TF3D can be awfully touchy about any kind of changes I have found. I just tried a restore with Resco & TF loaded fine from that restore however, so my opinion of Resco is going up the more I use it.........

~John

jmorton10 02-06-2009 03:18 PM

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Well, now I have done two more hard reset & restore operations while I was killing time at work......

Here is the result of a Sprite restore I just did (the 2nd SPB restore produced the same result as the first, TF3D refused to load) That is TF3D HD running in this shot:


http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/o...creen01-11.png


The Resco restore looked exactly the same & both seemed to work just fine.

More testing to come, but at least in this case Sprite & Resco where basically identical & SPB loses out.

~John

BlackDynamite 02-06-2009 05:53 PM

Re: Backup software testing
 
So all of your WiFi setting and various other settings were all restored?

jmorton10 02-06-2009 06:58 PM

Re: Backup software testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg (Post 695341)
So all of your WiFi setting and various other settings were all restored?

Yea, the Sprite & Resco restores are perfect.

All five email accounts work, my work account that I sign into, WiFi etc...

~John

HBOOT 02-06-2009 07:57 PM

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Mr. Morton:
When I was tweaking the hell out of spb mobile shell, I just grabbed the whole spb mobile shell folder and do copy/paste to SD, anytime things got messy I was able to just bring it back easily. You may wanna consider the same procedure with TF3D ....just a thought.....thanks for the testings:laughing3:

jmorton10 02-06-2009 08:03 PM

Re: Backup software testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hbenz2008 (Post 695574)
Mr. Morton:
When I was tweaking the hell out of spb mobile shell, I just grabbed the whole spb mobile shell folder and do copy/paste to SD, anytime things got messy I was able to just bring it back easily. You may wanna consider the same procedure with TF3D ....just a thought.....thanks for the testings:laughing3:

I used to do the same thing with Mobile Shell (I used MS with the greatbal Diamond theme in my old Titan). TF3D files are all in Windows & I copy that folder on my everyday & business phone & save it.

I don't care if it works or not in the restored system (that phone is a test bed), I did a hard restore on it ten minutes later anyway......

Do you have any more restore setups or programs you want me to try while I am doing this stuff??

~John

HBOOT 02-06-2009 08:10 PM

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I wish there ar some new cool apps out there, I am reaching a period of stagnation while my TP is running well and does what I ask from it. I fyou think of any apps that is productive and cool please let me know, I will go and grab it....check your pm


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