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gera229 02-01-2011 02:44 AM

Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
What I am asking is if there is any way to connect to the computer using the phones network?
Some times I may be located somewhere out of town and may need to upload some files on my pc, but there is no way I can do that.
The only way would be to set up a connection on your computer for it to be ready to accept your phones signal and so on. So that you can use your phones internet to connect to your computer while out of town and control it.

Anyone find this possible? It would be great to do this.

If there is no software for it, but it is possible and if it is my idea, I wish I knew programming to create it lol.

gTen 02-02-2011 01:38 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2048887)
What I am asking is if there is any way to connect to the computer using the phones network?
Some times I may be located somewhere out of town and may need to upload some files on my pc, but there is no way I can do that.
The only way would be to set up a connection on your computer for it to be ready to accept your phones signal and so on. So that you can use your phones internet to connect to your computer while out of town and control it.

Anyone find this possible? It would be great to do this.

If there is no software for it, but it is possible and if it is my idea, I wish I knew programming to create it lol.

Hmm..your confusing me :/ lol..but If I understood you right...have you tried Remote Desktop(should be preinstalled on your phone and depending on your windows version your pc as well) ?

There is also things like LogMeIn and etc..

gera229 02-02-2011 02:08 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
I thought remote desktop only works if you connect to USB? Also can you control the pc through it?

Another thing is that if I use it the computer will need to accept it won't it?
On PC to PC it just works, no need to accept haha.

gTen 02-03-2011 01:03 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
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Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2049505)
I thought remote desktop only works if you connect to USB? Also can you control the pc through it?

Another thing is that if I use it the computer will need to accept it won't it?
On PC to PC it just works, no need to accept haha.

Remote Desktop works over the internet..how else do you think businesses manage their windows servers?

And yes you can enable option so that you don't need to accept connections..

I mean I own servers in Texas, Michigan and other countries that I Remote Desktop to all the time..would suck if I had to walk across 10 states and cross country borders just to hit accept ;)

and you can even add SSL encryption too...

If you use a router with a firewall you will have to open up the Remote Desktop ports..same for software firewalls if you use them..

gera229 02-03-2011 01:26 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
I guess I learned something new and would like to try it. Can you guide me on this, and yeah I just thought it would be cool and somewhat useful for me, but don't know much about connections nor do I know what ssl encryption is lol.

I would like to know if this stores any memory on your phone or anything? Like the computer images it needs to load or something may take up some memory (Yeah ram but I'm talking about physical memory). If it does store memory is there any way to put it to store on storage card? Because I don't want my phones physical memory to get all bulky. Or does it remove all this stored data after you exit it and clear/ clean i completely and you regain back your physical memory completely?

gTen 02-03-2011 02:30 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
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Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2050092)
I guess I learned something new and would like to try it. Can you guide me on this, and yeah I just thought it would be cool and somewhat useful for me, but don't know much about connections nor do I know what ssl encryption is lol.

I would like to know if this stores any memory on your phone or anything? Like the computer images it needs to load or something may take up some memory (Yeah ram but I'm talking about physical memory). If it does store memory is there any way to put it to store on storage card? Because I don't want my phones physical memory to get all bulky. Or does it remove all this stored data after you exit it and clear/ clean i completely and you regain back your physical memory completely?

Lets start with what version of windows you have?...and if its 32bit or 64bit?...

Remote Desktop is usually pre-installed on your phone...but you might need a newer version or to reinstall it if your using a custom rom that took it out...

As for RAM usage, don't worry..all the processing is done by your pc at home...all the phone does is display it..similar to how your monitor doesn't need ram as it just displays whats sent to it..

gera229 02-03-2011 02:43 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
I have winmo 6.5 stock rom Sprint TP2. How do I check the version?

My PC is 64 bit windows 7 ultimate.

gTen 02-03-2011 03:01 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
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Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2050120)
I have winmo 6.5 stock rom Sprint TP2. How do I check the version?

My PC is 64 bit windows 7 ultimate.

Here is a guide to enable Remote Desktop (saves me time and effort lol):

How to setup remote desktop in windows 7 « Windows 7 Home

If you want to create a different user which you will use for Remote Desktop you can...or otherwise you can use any user you wish..

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You will also have to add port 3389 to allow on your windows firewall or any other firewall you may have including router firewall..

gera229 02-03-2011 03:09 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Thanks for the link, also is remote desktop better than using Logmein.com? By how much? How much better is the performance and what's better?
Any page refresh lag?


Hmm how do you check phone user name? The link you gave me doesn't show how to connect mobile phones but rather how to connect pc to pc?

gTen 02-03-2011 03:26 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2050126)
Thanks for the link, also is remote desktop better than using Logmein.com? By how much? How much better is the performance and what's better?
Any page refresh lag?


Hmm how do you check phone user name? The link you gave me doesn't show how to connect mobile phones but rather how to connect pc to pc?

its practically exactly the same on the phone as over there..you just enter the hostname/ip, the username and the password..(you use the username of your PC, not the phone)

There really isnt much refresh lag but it depends on your connection..

As for difference between logmein..hard to say..as I said Remote Desktop is just already installed on your phone and on your PC..so its kinda the "Default" option..the advantages of Log Me In your going to have to get from their website or etc...

gera229 02-03-2011 03:41 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
I see. I can't get it to work. I have a network setup with 4 PCs and 1 external IP address and 4 internal. The one I want to connect to has the remote desktop option enabled. I put internal IP in computer address, user name (I have 2 user name on the computer I want to connect to so I use one of them). Password is no password and in the domain I put in my external IP address and it doesn't seem to work. Do I need to set anything else up?

gTen 02-03-2011 10:39 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
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Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2050139)
I see. I can't get it to work. I have a network setup with 4 PCs and 1 external IP address and 4 internal. The one I want to connect to has the remote desktop option enabled. I put internal IP in computer address, user name (I have 2 user name on the computer I want to connect to so I use one of them). Password is no password and in the domain I put in my external IP address and it doesn't seem to work. Do I need to set anything else up?

Right now you are connecting internal IP-> Internal IP?

if so 2 things..

1) is port open on windows firewall?

2) I suggest using an account with a password..

gera229 02-03-2011 12:08 PM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
I have windows firewall turned off on my PC.
Because I enabled 3389 both UDP/TCP int/ext to 3389 in the router.

What do you mean internal IP to Internal IP? I am connecting my phone and not another PC lol.

gTen 02-03-2011 02:42 PM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
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Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2050227)
I have windows firewall turned off on my PC.
Because I enabled 3389 both UDP/TCP int/ext to 3389 in the router.

What do you mean internal IP to Internal IP? I am connecting my phone and not another PC lol.

I thought you were testing it from another pc that was on the local network..

You are using your public IP to connect right?

Also..you might have to setup port forwarding for port 3389 on the router to your local IP (starts with 192.168.x.x)

gera229 02-03-2011 03:22 PM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Port forwarding is set up specifically on the IP that I want to connect to. My connect is probably dynamic, does it have to be static to be able to connect?

gTen 02-03-2011 03:42 PM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2050337)
Port forwarding is set up specifically on the IP that I want to connect to. My connect is probably dynamic, does it have to be static to be able to connect?

Well for initial connection it doesn't matter..just make sure you got the current IP..beyond that there are services like:

DynDNS.com Dynamic DNS: Free DDNS Service


IF you have another computer at home, I would first attempt to Remote Desktop using it to make sure its working..you "might" need to update your Remote Desktop on your phone for example..so if you got another PC, test using it...

gera229 02-03-2011 09:01 PM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
So I got it to work while connected to wifi. My phone viewed my desktop and I was happy. The problem is I want to do it while it is not in wifi but when I am out of town and need to use the phone network to connect. Is that possible?

gTen 02-03-2011 11:32 PM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2050538)
So I got it to work while connected to wifi. My phone viewed my desktop and I was happy. The problem is I want to do it while it is not in wifi but when I am out of town and need to use the phone network to connect. Is that possible?

ok, if that works then thats good..if you can't connect outside make sure your firewall is configured properly and you have a proper public IP..

gera229 02-04-2011 12:06 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
I have a proper public IP address and firewall is off. I tried putting internal IP in the "computer" field and then input the correct user name and password for that internal IP of course and then in domain I put my public IP.

Also tried public IP in computer and still did not work.

Are you getting it over 3g? Or only through wifi and/or active sync?

By the way I have a dynamic and not a static address based on what the administrator has told me.

gTen 02-04-2011 12:23 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2050660)
I have a proper public IP address and firewall is off. I tried putting internal IP in the "computer" field and then input the correct user name and password for that internal IP of course and then in domain I put my public IP.

Also tried public IP in computer and still did not work.

Are you getting it over 3g? Or only through wifi and/or active sync?

By the way I have a dynamic and not a static address based on what the administrator has told me.

Leave Domain blank..the public IP you put in the Computer..

And yes I am getting it over 3g..I've been using it for years..

gera229 02-04-2011 12:47 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Ok tried public IP in computer. Connected but I had a pop up saying:
"Cannot connect with current connection settings. To chagne your connection settings, tap Settings.".

gTen 02-04-2011 01:04 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2050683)
Ok tried public IP in computer. Connected but I had a pop up saying:
"Cannot connect with current connection settings. To chagne your connection settings, tap Settings.".

When you connect do you have data enabled? are you sure its using the Sprint connection and not the work connection?

Also I am going to move this to Software forum so that others can help you if I am not on at the time..

gera229 02-04-2011 01:17 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Wow I enabled data and it seems to work. Thanks gTen you were helpful. I am just not used to having data enabled manually lol. When I open opera mobile or opera mini data enables by itself and when I close it, it disables on its own.

Thank you! I am happy now.

Also just curious about what domain is?

Also will it matter if your connection is dynamic or static?

gTen 02-04-2011 01:40 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2050697)
Wow I enabled data and it seems to work. Thanks gTen you were helpful. I am just not used to having data enabled manually lol. When I open opera mobile or opera mini data enables by itself and when I close it, it disables on its own.

Thank you! I am happy now.

Also just curious about what domain is?

Also will it matter if your connection is dynamic or static?

Yes..if its dynamic you won't know what IP to use..so use that URL or another similar service I gave you to create a hostname..so instead of using the public IP you will use the hostname instead in the computer field..this hostname will be static..

And yes some apps are not able to get data on their own..happens all the time and its annoying >.>

As for Domain..usually when you have a network you specify a domain...with this domain you can set group polices and etc...nothing to worry about..

but if you really want to know here is the wiki:

Windows domain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

gera229 02-04-2011 01:57 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
So I guess that my IP is static since I know it? I think I only have 1 public IP, does that mean it's static?

gTen 02-04-2011 02:12 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2050715)
So I guess that my IP is static since I know it? I think I only have 1 public IP, does that mean it's static?

Dynamic IP means it changes..usually when you log off or after X amount of time..

Static means it never changes..

My home connection for example is generally a static IP..BUT it does sometimes change once a year or 2..

My cellphone connection, my IP changes every time I connect for the most part..thats dynamic..

So you can see in general if your public IP changes or not..some hosts also allow you to request static IPs too...

As a mod I can see IPs and from the looks of it your IP hasn't changed since the beginning of this thread except one post where you seemed to have accessed from elsewhere..so from the looks of it your IP is static enough for a week..but on 01-02-2011 you had a different IP so doesn't look like its static enough for a month..

I would suggest to just in case setup a hostname for your IP so that its static..

gera229 02-04-2011 02:15 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Yeah I did use a different PC to reply to some messages.
I think my IP is permanently static unless the modem is restarted.

Also do you have a hostname setup since your IP is Static? I mean I do not see I really need one that much. Does it improve performance?

I am also curious why some hosts allow to request static IPs and what it does (Yeah they change dynamic to static.); does it change static to dynamic?

By the way my remote desktop connection is setup so that like anyone can access it (the less secure one), is there anyway to limit it to just my phone to be more secure?

gTen 02-04-2011 02:35 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2050721)
Yeah I did use a different PC to reply to some messages.
I think my IP is permanently static unless the modem is restarted.

Also do you have a hostname setup since your IP is Static? I mean I do not see I really need one that much. Does it improve performance?

I am also curious why some hosts allow to request static IPs and what it does (Yeah they change dynamic to static.); does it change static to dynamic?

By the way my remote desktop connection is setup so that like anyone can access it (the less secure one), is there anyway to limit it to just my phone to be more secure?

I generally don't remote desktop to my home pcs..I use it for my servers (which are static ips forever)..

your phone uses a dynamic IP as it changes every time you connect..if you want to limit it I guess you'll have to look up the IP range of Sprint and set on the RDP port to only allow that range and block all others in your firewall/router..

some hosts allow people to have static IPs if they need it..such as in your case..

It offers no performance increase..it just gives you the reliability that if you leave on say a trip..it won't change mid trip...

gera229 02-04-2011 03:11 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Since it is not that urgent to me to actually have the need to access my PC then I don't think I need to worry about hosting.

Well thanks, I will do some of my research on how to keep it private access and allow for only my phone.

As for look up the IP range of Sprint, IDk what you mean?

gTen 02-04-2011 04:34 AM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gera229 (Post 2050732)
Since it is not that urgent to me to actually have the need to access my PC then I don't think I need to worry about hosting.

You misunderstood me..a hostname is not hosting..a hostname is a name that resolves to an IP..you can get one of these hostnames for FREE

Quote:

Well thanks, I will do some of my research on how to keep it private access and allow for only my phone.


As for look up the IP range of Sprint, IDk what you mean?
Here are the IP ranges used by sprint as of 2010: (This list does NOT include roaming IPs)

SPRINT-WIRELESS (NET-174-144-0-0-1) 174.144.0.0 - 174.159.255.255
SPRINTPCS (NET-68-24-0-0-1) 68.24.0.0 - 68.31.255.255
SPRINTBWG-2BL (NET-66-87-0-0-1) 66.87.0.0 - 66.87.255.255
SPRINTBWG-1BL (NET-66-1-0-0-1) 66.1.0.0 - 66.1.255.255
SPRINTBWG-BLK1 (NET-24-221-0-0-1) 24.221.0.0 - 24.221.255.255
SPRINT-WIRELESS (NET-108-96-0-0-1) 108.96.0.0 - 108.127.255.255
SPRINT-WIRELESS (NET-68-240-0-0-1) 68.240.0.0 - 68.247.255.255
SPRINT-WIRELESS (NET-70-0-0-0-1) 70.0.0.0 - 70.14.255.255
SPRINT-WIRELESS (NET-107-24-0-0-1) 107.24.0.0 - 107.63.255.255
SPRINT-WIRELESS (NET-99-200-0-0-1) 99.200.0.0 - 99.207.255.255
SPRINT-WIRELESS (NET-173-4-0-0-1) 173.4.0.0 - 173.7.255.255
SPRINT-WIRELESS (NET-72-56-0-0-1) 72.56.0.0 - 72.63.255.255
SPRINT-WIRELESS (NET-173-96-0-0-1) 173.96.0.0 - 173.127.255.255
SPRINT-WIRELESS (NET-184-192-0-0-1) 184.192.0.0 - 184.255.255.255
SPRINT-WIRELESS (NET-173-128-0-0-1) 173.128.0.0 - 173.159.255.255

gera229 02-04-2011 12:01 PM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
I understood that a host will make a dynamic permanent IP.

It's just that I was saying that I do not need one since I don't have any urgency to access my PC very often.

I know a hostname will be more reliable in that you will be able to connect to your PC through the host incase your IP changes on your home network.

jabu 03-30-2011 04:06 PM

Re: Anyway to connect to your pc with winmo 6.5 wirelessly?
 
Side note, you can do this with an Apache also. I used one to remote admin windows servers. Works good.


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