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the7thson 01-08-2010 10:31 PM

Proper Speech to Text in ALL text fields
 
I just got a Nexus One and played with it for a couple days. I ultimately ended up returning it because I still prefer to get the HD2 which should be out soon with T-Mobile USA, but that's another story.

My favorite feature of the new 2.1 Android OS by far is the voice input that's available everywhere you can use the keyboard to enter text here. This means you can use voice dictation for sending text messages, email, type notes, type up a Word doc or anything else for that matter. This is something I've always wanted in WinMo but never seen so far. I've used VoiceCommand and TellMe etc but they're all pretty limited and most importantly - cannot be used while you're in a text field in whatever app you're currently in.

While I'm on the subject, wouldn't it also be nice if the voice input had direct hooks in to the OS so you could use your voice to add calendar appointments etc by saying something like "Appointment: Meeting with Rob, january 10th, 4pm" or something like that?

I'd just like to see if there is any interest in such functionality from other users and maybe with enough interest, someone at MS will notice and make it happen. The N1 is obviously getting a lot of attention and I'd say this voice input feature is a pretty solid one. Please post here expressing your support if you are interested in this functionality natively in WinMo.

Here's a video of it in action on the N1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN0C-...eature=channel

riot1031 01-08-2010 11:00 PM

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I want this too! My buddy just got a Droid and this is probably the most impressive feature of the phone.

BenC 01-09-2010 12:08 PM

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This may be a neat feature; however, using in public or around others? A bit intrusive.

the7thson 01-10-2010 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BenC (Post 1473678)
This may be a neat feature; however, using in public or around others? A bit intrusive.

Don't really recommend for use in public, but there are enough times when I'm typing something by myself to justify wanting something like this. I already really miss it after having it for 1 day on the Nexus One..

muyoso 01-10-2010 12:12 PM

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That is absolutely sick. I want it.

maiki 01-11-2010 01:07 PM

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Is it really that accurate, that it can transcribe what you say, with few mistakes? Even in a noisy environment?

Nosey 01-11-2010 01:21 PM

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this would be nice, especially with a lot of the states coming up with hands free while driving, I get a lot of txt's while I'm driving and it would be nice to be able to safely respond back, or even if it would work while on the phone, like calling your voicemail, etc where you could say the menu options

the7thson 01-11-2010 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by maiki (Post 1478653)
Is it really that accurate, that it can transcribe what you say, with few mistakes? Even in a noisy environment?

I would put it's accuracy at well above 90% in my experience, I was completely blown away at how well it worked. That said, I'm sure everyone's experience will be slightly different based on accent, speed, enunciation etc.

I didn't get a chance to try it in a noisy environment, but the N1 has a 2nd microphone for noise cancellation - not sure if that only works when the phone is being used for voice calls.

Keep the votes coming guys.

the7thson 01-11-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by muyoso (Post 1476157)
That is absolutely sick. I want it.

Yes you do :)
I'm THIS close to going to back the N1 again, but I just can't give up everything I want from WinMo in exchange for this feature..

nomad_delta 01-12-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by the7thson (Post 1479471)
Yes you do :)
I'm THIS close to going to back the N1 again, but I just can't give up everything I want from WinMo in exchange for this feature..

Just out of curiosity, what specifically does WinMo do for your that the N1/Android does not?

--nomad_delta

the7thson 01-12-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nomad_delta (Post 1482579)
Just out of curiosity, what specifically does WinMo do for your that the N1/Android does not?

--nomad_delta

Seamless Exchange and sync capabilities, all the fit and finish of HTC TouchFLO/Sense, tethering, all the constant tinkering options available, custom ROMs, stable OS (with a properly tweaked custom ROM of course), some specific programs like G-Profile, PowerSMS etc, ability to do real multitasking with full control using task managers and app switching etc, the list goes on.

Android is still a fledgling OS and there is no doubt about it. Someone described the overall user experience on Android as "fragmented" and I couldn't agree more. It's coming along extremely fast though and I'm sure that soon enough I'll be switching over, it's just a matter of time. I doubt WinMo 7 is going to do anything to shake this up unfortunately. In the meantime though, WinMo is doing it for me more than the vanilla 2.1 Android. I predict that my if in a few months there comes along a Snapdragon Android handset with similar form factor like the N1 with Sense built in to it and a few versions further of Android, my upcoming HD2 will probably get traded in. This should be no later than the end of 2010.

The voice input on Android 2.1 is bar none though.. Now I know why they started testing voice transcriptions on GVoice so long ago and asking our input on when it was useful and when it wasn't. Good game Google!

InvincibleLiving 01-13-2010 05:26 AM

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I desperately need for a solid dictation app to be pushed out for winmo and preferably free... it really is a no brainer that this is missing from winmo's feature set

the7thson 01-13-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by InvincibleLiving (Post 1484249)
I desperately need for a solid dictation app to be pushed out for winmo and preferably free... it really is a no brainer that this is missing from winmo's feature set

MS has voice recognition in it's Bing Mobile app that works just fine, I'm sure they can bring it to WinMo 7. I just hope that they actually do.

InvincibleLiving 01-13-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by the7thson (Post 1485624)
MS has voice recognition in it's Bing Mobile app that works just fine, I'm sure they can bring it to WinMo 7. I just hope that they actually do.

I'm looking for something beyond voice recognition that actually transcribes dictated speech into text. I'm an author and blogger and it would speed up my creative process infinitely if I could just speak my thoughts instead of typing them all the time... it works well in the bing app I just need a winmo app that does it across the board.

InvincibleLiving 01-13-2010 09:06 PM

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OMG.... see what I'm talking about? http://smarterware.org/4690/swipe-to...put-on-android

the7thson 01-14-2010 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by InvincibleLiving (Post 1486245)
I'm looking for something beyond voice recognition that actually transcribes dictated speech into text. I'm an author and blogger and it would speed up my creative process infinitely if I could just speak my thoughts instead of typing them all the time... it works well in the bing app I just need a winmo app that does it across the board.

I hear ya, that's exactly what I'm looking for too. And this is exactly the functionality that exists on the Nexus One with Android 2.1. I just meant that I know MS has the technology available, it just needs to be available system-wide in all text fields instead of just in 1 app like Bing Mobile or TellMe.

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Originally Posted by InvincibleLiving (Post 1486325)
OMG.... see what I'm talking about? http://smarterware.org/4690/swipe-to...put-on-android

Yep, I linked to a similar video in the 1st post of this thread. I've used it myself on the Nexus One and it works really well.

superman.namrepus 01-19-2010 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by the7thson (Post 1482759)
Seamless Exchange and sync capabilities, all the fit and finish of HTC TouchFLO/Sense, tethering, all the constant tinkering options available, custom ROMs, stable OS (with a properly tweaked custom ROM of course), some specific programs like G-Profile, PowerSMS etc, ability to do real multitasking with full control using task managers and app switching etc, the list goes on.

Android is still a fledgling OS and there is no doubt about it. Someone described the overall user experience on Android as "fragmented" and I couldn't agree more. It's coming along extremely fast though and I'm sure that soon enough I'll be switching over, it's just a matter of time. I doubt WinMo 7 is going to do anything to shake this up unfortunately. In the meantime though, WinMo is doing it for me more than the vanilla 2.1 Android. I predict that my if in a few months there comes along a Snapdragon Android handset with similar form factor like the N1 with Sense built in to it and a few versions further of Android, my upcoming HD2 will probably get traded in. This should be no later than the end of 2010.

The voice input on Android 2.1 is bar none though.. Now I know why they started testing voice transcriptions on GVoice so long ago and asking our input on when it was useful and when it wasn't. Good game Google!

I was using the Diamond before I got my Hero and the Hero does almost all of what you are wanting and more. The ROM's that are being built are better than any WinMo ROM I have ever used. With that being said the Hero is going to be getting an update to 2.1 with Sense already on it. This will also give us in theory the voice transcription. Just giving you some info that you may or may not have known about.

the7thson 01-19-2010 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by superman.namrepus (Post 1500541)
I was using the Diamond before I got my Hero and the Hero does almost all of what you are wanting and more. The ROM's that are being built are better than any WinMo ROM I have ever used. With that being said the Hero is going to be getting an update to 2.1 with Sense already on it. This will also give us in theory the voice transcription. Just giving you some info that you may or may not have known about.

Interesting. When you say it does almost all of those things, what would you say it doesn't do? And what's the "more" stuff that it does?

I'm sure with Sense, it has most of the fit and finish of TouchFLO/Manila etc. Here are some questions though:

-Does it sync properly with Exchange (email, calendar, tasks) while still supporting sync with the Google cloud?
-Does it sync directly with Outlook? I think this is a no.
-Does it do WinMo style smart dial from the dialer where you can bring up the dialpad and just use that to start typing the letters of your contact's name and it finds them intelligently?
-Is there support for text message scheduling? Or an app for this?
-Is there support for backing up text messages to PC for plain text reading? Or just plain backup even?

If the answer to most of these is yes, then I just might consider giving skipping over the HD2 I've been waiting for and give Android a longer shot. The only other problem is pretty basic apps without much attention to UI etc, but that should be picking up pretty rapidly with Android hopefully.

orangekid 01-20-2010 04:13 PM

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is it 100% certain that this speech to text feature is in fact native to android 2.1 and not just on the nexus one?

brownhornet 01-20-2010 04:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by the7thson (Post 1500594)
Interesting. When you say it does almost all of those things, what would you say it doesn't do? And what's the "more" stuff that it does?

I'm sure with Sense, it has most of the fit and finish of TouchFLO/Manila etc. Here are some questions though:

-Does it sync properly with Exchange (email, calendar, tasks) while still supporting sync with the Google cloud?
-Does it sync directly with Outlook? I think this is a no.
-Does it do WinMo style smart dial from the dialer where you can bring up the dialpad and just use that to start typing the letters of your contact's name and it finds them intelligently?
-Is there support for text message scheduling? Or an app for this?
-Is there support for backing up text messages to PC for plain text reading? Or just plain backup even?

If the answer to most of these is yes, then I just might consider giving skipping over the HD2 I've been waiting for and give Android a longer shot. The only other problem is pretty basic apps without much attention to UI etc, but that should be picking up pretty rapidly with Android hopefully.

Well I know for a fact it can back up texts, it can sync directly with outlook using companionlink...and active sync also...the 2.1 version does include smart dial as its not a winmo dialpad, its an htc dialpad...only thing im not sure about on that list is text scheduling as I havent fooled with that on my girls phone yet.

the7thson 01-20-2010 09:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 1504340)
is it 100% certain that this speech to text feature is in fact native to android 2.1 and not just on the nexus one?

Not 100% certain, but I think it's part of Android 2.1, not just unique to the N1.

the7thson 01-20-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brownhornet (Post 1504391)
Well I know for a fact it can back up texts, it can sync directly with outlook using companionlink...and active sync also...the 2.1 version does include smart dial as its not a winmo dialpad, its an htc dialpad...only thing im not sure about on that list is text scheduling as I havent fooled with that on my girls phone yet.

Thanks!


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