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ZaijiaN 09-18-2006 08:41 PM

PicDialer 1.0 now in beta (01/01/07)
 
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Updated 01/17/07

Thanks beta testers! I haven't gotten many problem reports so i'm going to assume everything is running fine.

I'll try and get a 1.0 final release by this weekend.

Updated 9/29/06

I got my 700wx on Friday, and by Saturday, I had created my first .NET compact application!

I'd been wanting a way to see a list of all my contact pictures, and then dial them. This functionality didn't come with the phone, and I didn't bother searching the web, so I created my own:

http://philchuang.com/cs/photos/scre.../original.aspx

Quote:

ChangeLog
-----------------------
-0.96b (09/27/06)
-bugfix bugfix bugfix (that's what I get for rushing)

-0.95b (09/27/06)
-optimized loading
-created application icon
-added registration system code
-optimized display code
-improved memory usage
-bugfixes

-0.85b
-standardized softkeys
-added context menu to pictures

-0.8b
-removed "Load All Contacts" option, always on
-optimized GUI drawing
-using WM5 SDK instead of unsafe native calls for phone dialing

-0.7b
-initial release
Feedback/questions welcome!

ajk511 09-18-2006 08:49 PM

looks nice. im gonna try it when i get home and ill compare it with photocontacs pro.

Wideawake 09-18-2006 08:57 PM

sweet I will give this a try later. I'm trying to learn here and there about programming with vs05 pro. Its an amazing program and well I'm in over my head :D

Wideawake 09-18-2006 09:33 PM

Ok checked it out...its nice to be ur first and I do have a few suggestions. First as per microsoft, they say make ur expanding menu on the right soft key and one action on the other. Then if possible maybe making it where u can also scroll the contacts on one page with the joystick/d-pad. Then make the right soft key scroll through pages maybe. I dunno but I think this would help with using one handed. if I think of more I will let u know.
~mike

ps nice app to be ur first.

jeffdiogenes 09-19-2006 12:17 AM

This rules for the mere fact i only have pictures of the people i would ever call :P

Works great on my 6700 i dont mind the interface...likely going to use this as a Today Screen "Contacts Button" replacement

If you are looking for feature ideas to add: SMS, MMS, Email options maybe just to interface with VJPhonetools via commandline...mmm
me like

ZaijiaN 09-21-2006 12:16 AM

Thanks for the feedback guys, i'll release a new version soon.

I started my 2nd app yesterday, and that's when I figured out the softkey standards.

There's not many Actions I can put on the left softkey, other than Refresh/Settings. I'll probably just put Settings there, and move Refresh over to Menu.

As far as usability goes, I initially tried to design it so that individual pictures could be selected with the d-pad, but that proved to be pretty difficult due to the default d-pad behavior. So instead I have the dpad switch screens, then to dial, you have to click the picture. I figure that's the best compromise I can do for now.

For SMS/Email/other ways of contact, I can add in a context menu on each picture, so that it'll bring up a list of ways to contact that you can select.

Wideawake 09-21-2006 12:24 AM

good ideas ;) this will be a useful app when mapped to a hard key. :D

ZaijiaN 09-21-2006 12:27 AM

Speaking of which, does anybody know how to put my app in as a menu option on the today screen? Or know who does? It'd be sweet if I could insert it in there under the contacts item.

Wideawake 09-21-2006 12:34 AM

no clue :? sorry.

ZaijiaN 09-21-2006 01:50 AM

I'd add the latest directory to the board, but I guess atttachments are turned off for this board or my account.

I'll post it tomorrow via megaupload sometime.

Wideawake 09-21-2006 02:11 AM

nall attachments arent turned off, did u try in advanced mode? did it give u an error?
~mike

ZaijiaN 09-21-2006 10:07 AM

Well, technically attachments are enabled, however, when I tried to add one, it said the max length was one byte. :) Might take me a couple hundred thousand posts at that rate.

jeffdiogenes 09-21-2006 10:55 AM

From: http://www.cmz727.com/alan/6700/6700.htm

Here is the registry hack for the softkeys on the today screen:



ALWAYS BACKUP YOUR REGISTRY FIRST



To change the softkeys on the Today screen

The left-hand softkey settings are at 'HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Today\Keys\1 12', the right-hand softkey


settings are at 'HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Today\Keys\1 13'

The 'Default' string value can be changed to whatever text you wish to have displayed

The 'Open' string value can be changed to the program you wish to run when the softkey is pressed

For example, to change the left-hand softkey to start the Messaging program (text messages and emails) you would set:



HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Today\Keys\11 2\(Default) = Messaging

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Today\Keys\11 2\Open = \windows\tmail.exe

ZaijiaN 09-21-2006 11:31 AM

That'd work for completely replacing the softkeys, I but I want to insert my program into the menu (right softkey), not completely replace them.

Hmmm...

Malatesta 09-21-2006 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZaijiaN
Well, technically attachments are enabled, however, when I tried to add one, it said the max length was one byte. :) Might take me a couple hundred thousand posts at that rate.

same here--I tried like 2 days ago to add a tiny file (kb in siize) and got the same error.

thoght I hit my limit again! Guess not.

jeffdiogenes 09-21-2006 03:28 PM

This guy might know how since he replaced my entire Right softkey with a "New" menu that is customizeable.

http://www.saman-cz.com/ppc/index.html


Maybe it's a lead maybe it's not, but hope it gives you an idea one way or another...

Personally very happy with my PicDial right softkey :) If I need one of those "Other" contacts I look them up on PocketBreeze's ContactBreeze, or fetch it from the built-in contacts.

Btw your idea of a context menu when holding down on a pic makes me a happy muppet. Thanks for what you have done sofar.

ZaijiaN 09-21-2006 03:30 PM

I updated it some more:

Quote:

ChangeLog
-----------------------
-0.85b
-standardized softkeys
-added context menu to pictures

-0.8b
-removed "Load All Contacts" option, always on
-optimized GUI drawing
-using WM5 SDK instead of unsafe native calls for phone dialing

-0.7b
-initial release

Wideawake 09-21-2006 04:08 PM

I adjusted the board upload limit the other day and may have entered the wrong value so I will check that. sorry and mala u know I raised ur board limit soooo u should know its not that. :D

Malatesta 09-21-2006 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZaijiaN
That'd work for completely replacing the softkeys, I but I want to insert my program into the menu (right softkey), not completely replace them.

Hmmm...

That's going to be kinda hard. that right soft key on the 700wx is tied into the Phone app overlay.

Watch when the system boots and you'll see the real softkeys (phone and calendar) are "covered up" by Palm's app.

Palm's apps (there are 2) are a mishmash of .dll files and are actually registered as hidden TodayPlugins.

Not even WM5NewMenu (saman's app) will overwrite Palm's (I use his app but via a hardkey). He won't be able to help either...in fact no one at XDA will until the 750v comes out on Vodaphone in October. :cry: sorry!

Wideawake
: good to hear! I'll upload later. lol

ZaijiaN 09-21-2006 05:41 PM

Here it is.

(Thanks to Wideawake for fixing the attachments issue)

Edit by Wideawake
Edited first post to reflect change log and attached newest version.

Wideawake 09-21-2006 05:49 PM

Thanks...as u can see I edited ur last and first post to attach to main post to clean up and make sure they get the newest build. no probelm about the attachments.....sorry for that inconvience anywayz. I changed somethings and set it to bytes instead of megabytes :oops:
~mike

jeffdiogenes 09-22-2006 10:58 AM

Dude.

no, i mean DUUUUUUUDE

Yourprog > everything

Context menu now....Although I'm male, I wanna have your babies.

Let me know.


Lol. :) Thanks again.
------
Edit: Hrmm when I try the text or email stuff it says "This functionality is not yet implemented."

YOU TEASE ME!!!! ; ; Thanks for the work sofar, is that functionality message yours or something else?

Wideawake 09-22-2006 11:10 AM

yea its still in the beta stages...zaijian correct if I'm wrong and according to the readme he's working on it. ;) hey zaijian away u can build in the .net framework 1.0...I hate having to install 2.0 even though I can install to the card. if its not possible, its cool.
~mike

ZaijiaN 09-22-2006 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffdiogenes
Context menu now....Although I'm male, I wanna have your babies.

Should be in the latest version (0.85b)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wideawake
hey zaijian away u can build in the .net framework 1.0...I hate having to install 2.0 even though I can install to the card. if its not possible, its cool.

I'll see what I can do!

ZaijiaN 09-23-2006 04:00 AM

I'll have a new version out by monday that'll do sms/email!

Wideawake, is it a big deal to install .net cf 2.0? How much space does it take up?

Wideawake 09-23-2006 04:13 PM

.net 2.0 takes up 5436kb but if u don't wanna do that don't worry about it.....just was throwing it out there to see.
~mike

ZaijiaN 09-28-2006 08:43 PM

Updated to 0.95b! Check first post.

matemk717 09-29-2006 01:34 AM

awesome, thanks for the update

ZaijiaN 09-29-2006 01:36 AM

It's buggy, i'll have a new version out soon.

jeffdiogenes 09-29-2006 11:11 AM

I love you.

Again.

I can text message from it.

You > All

ericizzy1 10-20-2006 08:24 PM

wm 5.0
 
is this program ment for wm 5.0? thnx.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ZaijiaN
It's buggy, i'll have a new version out soon.


ZaijiaN 10-20-2006 08:36 PM

Re: wm 5.0
 
it works on WM 5 for sure. I developed it for my treo 700wx. it may be able to work on other ppc phones but I have yet to do any testing on them.

i'll have a 1.0 release very soon!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericizzy1
is this program ment for wm 5.0? thnx.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ZaijiaN
It's buggy, i'll have a new version out soon.



ZaijiaN 01-01-2007 04:29 PM

I've got the 1.0 version ready to roll out, I just need some people to test it!

If you want to help me test it, then PM me, and i'll send you the cab. After the final version is released, you'll get the registration code for free.

orangesuburban 01-03-2007 11:15 AM

sent this to you in an email, but im gona post it here also just so other people can comment on it...

Quote:

Hey, i have found a few things that arent quit right and some things i want to throw at you to consider, or see if it can be done...

when i open pic dialer, go to settings default is

pics per row - 3
rows per page - 3
show name [no]
sort by [unsorted]

i change it to
pics per row - 2
rows per page - 2
show name [yes]
sort by [first name]

that happens....
i use magic button, so when im done, i fully close the program... when i reopen (which takes quite a bit of time...) the settings are back to default.... there has to be a way to make it stick....


no dpad controls - once i open up pic dialer i would like to be able run through my contacts by using the up/down left/right controls and select a contact with the center button

when selecting a contact - it places a call, i would really like it if it were set up like the WM5 contacts, when you select a contact take me to a new screen where i can select which method i would like to contact this person.

opening pic dialer - as already mentioned, it takes a LONG time for the program to open (for the first time, if you dont fully close then it isnt bad) when i say long i mean close to 30 seconds, and yes, i do have it installed in main memory, on the phone... that is really just too long for me to wait every time i want to make a call...

using pic dialer - this was kinda touched on in the thread on ppcgeeks, about integrating the app in the soft keys... on the Today Screen the right key is "menu" is there any way to get Pic Dailer added in there? i would love it if it replaced "Contacts" in that menu but i would be fine if it just added another option in there for this contact list


i think thats enough for now... let me know if you need me to check something else, or change some settings on my phone to see if it makes a difference..

ZaijiaN 01-03-2007 11:29 AM

Quote:

Hey, i have found a few things that arent quit right and some things i want to throw at you to consider, or see if it can be done...

when i open pic dialer, go to settings default is

pics per row - 3
rows per page - 3
show name [no]
sort by [unsorted]

i change it to
pics per row - 2
rows per page - 2
show name [yes]
sort by [first name]

that happens....
i use magic button, so when im done, i fully close the program... when i reopen (which takes quite a bit of time...) the settings are back to default.... there has to be a way to make it stick....
The settings default is that way on purpose, as is the non-persistence of settings - it's to encourage the user to register the program! :) If you keep the program running in the background instead of fully closing it (which is the recommended way of using the program, since it has a startup time), then the settings will remain in memory as you set them.
Quote:

no dpad controls - once i open up pic dialer i would like to be able run through my contacts by using the up/down left/right controls and select a contact with the center button
I may make that an alternate way of controlling it in the future. For the time being, I just tried to make it simple and require the touchscreen to dial. Of course, this screws smartphone users, so I'll be forced to do something about that eventually.
Quote:

when selecting a contact - it places a call, i would really like it if it were set up like the WM5 contacts, when you select a contact take me to a new screen where i can select which method i would like to contact this person.
If you HOLD on the contact picture, it'll pop up with a context menu with all their contact options (tel, text, email, etc)
Quote:

opening pic dialer - as already mentioned, it takes a LONG time for the program to open (for the first time, if you dont fully close then it isnt bad) when i say long i mean close to 30 seconds, and yes, i do have it installed in main memory, on the phone... that is really just too long for me to wait every time i want to make a call...
Which is why I recommend keeping it open. I'm not sure how big of an impact it has on memory, because although I keep mine open all the time I don't have that many other programs running in the background.

I have tried to tune the program to be pretty efficient when opening so that it'll be quick to re-activate and page through the contacts. It has a long startup time so that it can have much quicker in-app response time.
Quote:

using pic dialer - this was kinda touched on in the thread on ppcgeeks, about integrating the app in the soft keys... on the Today Screen the right key is "menu" is there any way to get Pic Dailer added in there? i would love it if it replaced "Contacts" in that menu but i would be fine if it just added another option in there for this contact list
I would love to figure out how to do this, but from what I understand, it'll take a lot of effort to figure out and doesn't really have that big of a benefit. It's on the todo list, but I don't know when I'll be able to implement it.
Quote:


i think thats enough for now... let me know if you need me to check something else, or change some settings on my phone to see if it makes a difference..
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it!

arp 01-08-2007 07:37 PM

I can't run at my wizard... have an error!

calomx@gmail.com

ZaijiaN 01-17-2007 10:49 AM

Thanks beta testers! I haven't gotten many problem reports so i'm going to assume everything is running fine.

I'll try and get a 1.0 final release by this weekend.

dannzeman 02-06-2007 12:37 AM

just curious about the status of this. It sounds interesting and I would really like to give it a try. Thanks ZaijiaN for all the work you've put into it so far.

ZaijiaN 02-06-2007 01:01 AM

I've had a couple of busy weeks, haven't had the time to polish it up - but it'll be out soon now!

dannzeman 02-06-2007 02:30 AM

Cool. That was a fast reply. Thanks for the update.


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