tethering with non-connected phone??

lakai180 · #1 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 06:28 PM

I checked the forums everywhere and didnt find anything on this topic...

So i flashed Nex Visions Hybrid on an htc mogul that i had lost, had it replaced with insurance, then recentely found it and have been using it to test roms... after flashing this rom on the bad esn mogul i was surprised to find the internet working and I'm even able to use this phone to tether... haha im on it right now... so i got curious and called up my buddy who already had a mogul but canceled his service... so he had a clean esn mogul... flashed the same rom and i kept getting an error code when it tried to connect to sprint... so i added the phone to my sprint account then immediately put my own mogul back on the account... i now have 3 moguls in front of me that have working internet on the phones, gps, and full tethering capabilities... anyone else find this useful????

**TweetyBear** · #2 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 06:32 PM

so you're saying you have 3 moguls on your account? or did you esn switch them around? if so, sometimes the provisioning stays on the phone for a while then data won't work anymore

lakai180 · #3 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 06:39 PM

i have 3 moguls in front of me... 1 on my account, 1 with a bad esn not on my account, and 1 with a clean esn also not on any account... and the provisioning has been working with full internet for over 2 weeks now and counting... haha i got curious and thought it was tied to my account so i changed the mdn and msid on each device and its all still working??? did i create a frankenstein or is this repeatable???

**TweetyBear** · #4 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 06:40 PM

maybe you just got lucky. enjoy it while you can

lakai180 · #5 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 07:11 PM

I thought it was just a fluke too, thats why i flashed my buddies phone... and his is still working also... can sprint tell that i have 3 phones kind of tied to my account with a lot of bandwidth being used on each of these devices??

Is it the rom thats allowing this or is it really just a fluke...

Hypothetically if I were to suspend, cancel, or changed phones (to a diamond) do you guys think i can still tether and use the internet off of my frankenstein??

**TweetyBear** · #6 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 07:23 PM

how is it tied to your account? i don't get it

lakai180 · #7 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 07:41 PM

I'm not sure how they can tell, but regardless I think I can duplicate this on any mogul... so we could have a mogul for strictly free tethering... and a mogul for normal everyday use and calling... that way theres no confusion or worries about sprint charging us for tethering... =D>

If I'm using this frankenstein on the internet and its not tied to my account in any way... is it traceable to an IP address or to sprint?

Spencer_Moore · #8 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 09:47 PM

I'm having this to I just traded my touch for a BB pearl soon curve and my touch can still access the web...so then I changed the msid and everything and data still works just no phone or txt very strange indeed and idt it has to do with rom or anything

**hibby50** · #9 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 09:51 PM

we miss you spence and yes keep one in you laptop bag and send one to me

Krayziepop · #10 (**permalink**) 09-16-2008, 11:06 AM

Okay, I feel the need to step in and play devils advocate here... What you have in your possession is a blacklisted phone that was reported lost to Asurion/Sprint. You are the customer whom has filed said claim and received a replacement phone to replace this missing property. While even I could advocate keeping the device around for testing purposes, its clear that the services are still being routed to the device. So lets play out a scenario...

Sprint deactivates the voice services from the line, leaving only a Mobile IP attached to the device therefore allowing internet to remain on. IP addresses are traceable to a great extent by the ISP in charge of the address. Your device also happens to be equipped with a GPS chip tied into the aGPS functionalities of the device. Put two and two together. While it may not seem plausible that they would do such a thing, they will eventually notice that there is bandwidth going where its not supposed to be going - even in minor amounts. Would you want to be the one streaming porn to your notebook when an investigator walks up asking you for the device in question?

It may seem like chicken feed to you in that situation - but Sprint will see two separate (maybe more?) lawsuits right away - 1) Insurance Fraud: you agree to return lost/stolen devices if you recover them after the insurance claim - its in the TOS, and 2) Theft of services: you using internet on a device that is supposed to be deactivated is really no different than running your own cable TV line from an unlocked tap - which especially lately has been getting easier for the providers to discover.

All I am saying is that you are carrying an easily locatable device and using services you arent paying for. Its really up to you whether its worth the risks associated or not. I just figured I would give it to you from the other side of the coin my friend. Good luck with it either way!