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divedr 07-25-2008 12:58 AM

Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Well maybe I'm a PITA but I hate the bloat of the stock Sprint ROM. I don't like the stuff Sprint sticks us with in the stock ROM update. If you want a fairly clean install you can do this:

1.) Update your ROM using the Sprint install.
2.) Wait..... as it updates you might see a stall at 11% with a re-boot on your device but just wait, it took 15 minutes on my laptop (XP SP3) before it re-started and re-started again 3x during the update, then it finished (@20 minutes total.)
3.) After the initial re-boot let everything run (customizations too!.)
4.) Hard re-boot and let the customizations run again. Connect to the internet to let IOTA re-provision your device.
5.) Hard re-boot and when the PPC comes back up soft reset before the Sprint Customizations run.
6.) After the PPC is up you will have a fairly clean PPC install of WM6.1 without the Sprint bloat!!!!!
7.) Run the CABs I wrote here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=32938 to add the Voice Mail Today Plugin and enable the Roaming Only Option for the phone.
8.) Install Total Commander to access the Extended_ROM and access Sprint TV and Navigaton if you like.

As far as I can see there is no functionality crippled by the above steps and all will work as expected with no lockups or problems. Have been runn ing this way for the past few days and all is well. Hope this works for you too! If it does then please give a thanks!

schettj 07-25-2008 01:55 AM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
why hard reset step 4? Seems redundant - all you should need is the IOTA run.

Otherwise this is the standard way of doing things - let the cust run once to re-provision (if any are on extended rom) and then hard reset again to clear bloatware.

puff 07-25-2008 02:08 AM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 360073)
why hard reset step 4? Seems redundant - all you should need is the IOTA run.

Otherwise this is the standard way of doing things - let the cust run once to re-provision (if any are on extended rom) and then hard reset again to clear bloatware.

i concur... that is if your flashing a stock rom (and not flashing a no2chem ROM after that) :D

How about....
Quote:


1.) Update your ROM using the Sprint install.
2.) Wait..... as it updates you might see a stall at 11% with a re-boot on your device but just wait, it took 15 minutes on my laptop (XP SP3) before it re-started and re-started again 3x during the update, then it finished (@20 minutes total.)
3.) After the initial re-boot let everything run (customizations too!.)
4.) Connect to the internet to let IOTA re-provision your device.
5.) Hard re-boot and when the PPC comes back up soft reset before the Sprint Customizations run.
6.) After the PPC is up you will have a fairly clean PPC install of WM6.1 without the Sprint bloat!!!!!
7.) Run the CABs I wrote here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=32938 to add the Voice Mail Today Plugin and enable the Roaming Only Option for the phone.
8.) Install Total Commander to access the Extended_ROM and access Sprint TV and Navigaton if you like.

divedr 07-25-2008 08:56 AM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Schettj and Puff, yes it would seem that would be correct but for some reason without the second hard reset some third party applications had trouble loading (SBP Pocket Plus was one that gave me problems.) The first time this happened I thought it was just an isolated glitch but it happened three times the same way. The second hard reset seems to clear up these problems, why? I have no idea! The Extended_ROM is different in this version, it seems that there is more to the Sprint Customizations than the CAB files in the Extended_ROM, if you run them individually they don't have the same effect as letting them run automatically. I just thought by posting this it might save some people a few wasted hours. Hope it helps.

stemo76 07-25-2008 04:37 PM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
I have verizon and the OTA programming won't work, am I screwed or do I have to have Verzion do another network reset like when I went to a GPS ROM?

divedr 07-25-2008 06:38 PM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
stemo76, are we to assume you flashed the Sprint 3.56 to your Verizon PPC6800? If so did you use Total Commander (or a similar program) to go into the Extended_ROM prior to the flash, save the Verizon IOTA.cab and run it after the upgrade?

puff 07-25-2008 06:41 PM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by divedr (Post 360205)
Schettj and Puff, yes it would seem that would be correct but for some reason without the second hard reset some third party applications had trouble loading (SBP Pocket Plus was one that gave me problems.) The first time this happened I thought it was just an isolated glitch but it happened three times the same way. The second hard reset seems to clear up these problems, why? I have no idea! The Extended_ROM is different in this version, it seems that there is more to the Sprint Customizations than the CAB files in the Extended_ROM, if you run them individually they don't have the same effect as letting them run automatically. I just thought by posting this it might save some people a few wasted hours. Hope it helps.

Well as the old saying goes... YMMV - a second hard reset certainly wont hurt ;-)

divedr 07-25-2008 06:58 PM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Another thing that pisses me off about this release is that there is some Sprint specific functionality that is not found in any of the cabs in the extended ROM. Sprint Voicemail today plugin aint in there! I had to load stock with all customizations then manually dissect it out of the registry and the windows directory. Without it you don't get the Voicemails Alerts on the today screen, what a PITA!

stemo76 07-25-2008 07:13 PM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by divedr (Post 360813)
stemo76, are we to assume you flashed the Sprint 3.56 to your Verizon PPC6800? If so did you use Total Commander (or a similar program) to go into the Extended_ROM prior to the flash, save the Verizon IOTA.cab and run it after the upgrade?

#1 yes, upgraded to 3.56 on verzion XV6800.
#2 No, sounds like I am to late for this now. I am going to get this tool so that I can have that file for later upgrades.

What are my options now. Phone can call out and in but no data unless I am using wifi.

On a side not I couldn't use my data connection since last Sunday for some reason.

divedr 07-25-2008 07:38 PM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stemo76 (Post 360851)
#1 yes, upgraded to 3.56 on verzion XV6800.
#2 No, sounds like I am to late for this now. I am going to get this tool so that I can have that file for later upgrades.

What are my options now. Phone can call out and in but no data unless I am using wifi.

On a side not I couldn't use my data connection since last Sunday for some reason.

OK, the first thing is to try to get Verizon to do a remote IOTA provisioning for you. If that fails then I would recommend:

1.) Backup all your stuff!
2.) Flash back to your old rom (a verizon one with the verizon IOTA that includes GPS Service.)
3.) Install Total Commander and copy the contents of the entire Extended_ROM directory to your storage card.
4.) Follow my instructions in the first post in this thread.
5.) When you're up and running the clean install run the Verizon IOTA.cab from your storage card and install it to the device. DO NOT RUN THE SPRINT VOICEMAIL OR ROAMING CABS, they are carrier specific to Sprint.

If this works, great, if not please don't blame me for the borked phone, crossflashing is USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! If it does work please give some thanks! GOOD Luck!

stemo76 07-25-2008 10:05 PM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
thanks, I will keep my fingers crossed. No worries, I know its my own doing and all this rom business is experimental.

I assume I can use the buildOS tool and create a custom rom for that is verizon based to gat this iota.cab file back.

puff 07-26-2008 12:22 AM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stemo76 (Post 360851)
#1 yes, upgraded to 3.56 on verzion XV6800.
#2 No, sounds like I am to late for this now. I am going to get this tool so that I can have that file for later upgrades.

What are my options now. Phone can call out and in but no data unless I am using wifi.

On a side not I couldn't use my data connection since last Sunday for some reason.

well here is DCDs Verizon Carrier Customizations Cab...
might give that a try, if it doesn't work... then divedr gave some good advise ;-)

divedr 07-26-2008 12:28 AM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by puff (Post 361095)
well here is DCDs Verizon Carrier Customizations Cab...
might give that a try, if it doesn't work... then divedr gave some good advise ;-)

That's a great idea, didn't think of that, do you think it would work with a remote provisioning from Verizon or am I totally off on that please let me know and thanks?

hoch2104 07-26-2008 12:31 AM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by divedr (Post 360026)
Well maybe I'm a PITA but I hate the bloat of the stock Sprint ROM. I don't like the stuff Sprint sticks us with in the stock ROM update. If you want a fairly clean install you can do this:

1.) Update your ROM using the Sprint install.
2.) Wait..... as it updates you might see a stall at 11% with a re-boot on your device but just wait, it took 15 minutes on my laptop (XP SP3) before it re-started and re-started again 3x during the update, then it finished (@20 minutes total.)
3.) After the initial re-boot let everything run (customizations too!.)
4.) Hard re-boot and let the customizations run again. Connect to the internet to let IOTA re-provision your device.
5.) Hard re-boot and when the PPC comes back up soft reset before the Sprint Customizations run.
6.) After the PPC is up you will have a fairly clean PPC install of WM6.1 without the Sprint bloat!!!!!
7.) Run the CABs I wrote here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=32938 to add the Voice Mail Today Plugin and enable the Roaming Only Option for the phone.
8.) Install Total Commander to access the Extended_ROM and access Sprint TV and Navigaton if you like.

As far as I can see there is no functionality crippled by the above steps and all will work as expected with no lockups or problems. Have been runn ing this way for the past few days and all is well. Hope this works for you too! If it does then please give a thanks!

My Mogul is working pretty good using the 6.0 updat, I'd like the Sprint TV option without upgrading to 6.1..any chance of doing this?

cryllic 07-26-2008 12:35 AM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hoch2104 (Post 361104)
My Mogul is working pretty good using the 6.0 updat, I'd like the Sprint TV option without upgrading to 6.1..any chance of doing this?

You just need to find a sprint tv cab i think.

divedr 07-26-2008 12:46 AM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Well the 6.1 update gives lots of benefits; better memory management, threaded text, I could go on and on but it's well worth the update. If you want the Sprint TV cab I'll post it but I think you need WM6.1 for it to work on your device (it comes from the 3.56 ROM and is burried in the windows folder, not in the Extended_ROM as a CAB, part of the cryptic Sprint Customizations in this ROM that I have yet to figure out!)

cryllic 07-26-2008 12:56 AM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by divedr (Post 361115)
Well the 6.1 update gives lots of benefits; better memory management, threaded text, I could go on and on but it's well worth the update. If you want the Sprint TV cab I'll post it but I think you need WM6.1 for it to work on your device (it comes from the 3.56 ROM and is burried in the windows folder, not in the Extended_ROM as a CAB, part of the cryptic Sprint Customizations in this ROM that I have yet to figure out!)

Yeah, it is in the Extended ROM as a CAB... SprintTV_noremovable_signed.CAB

puff 07-26-2008 01:06 AM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by divedr (Post 361103)
That's a great idea, didn't think of that, do you think it would work with a remote provisioning from Verizon or am I totally off on that please let me know and thanks?

Best i can tell you is just give it a whirl, i dont have Verizon (just thought i'd throw it out there though)

stemo76 07-26-2008 01:39 AM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
I tried the dcd verizon cab and it didn't seem to do anything. I run it and it resets the phone but still can't run *228. it calls out but then the lady says unable to program your phone.

Also the ##778# command does not work either. It just tries to dial out.

I used the BuildOS and built a ROM for verizon 6.1 with GPS and it installs but still can't program my phone. I am getting the roaming icon on the screen and noficiations on incoming calls that I am roaming.

Since my phone still works it seems like this should be fixable. any other suggestions?

divedr 07-26-2008 02:07 AM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stemo76 (Post 361153)
I tried the dcd verizon cab and it didn't seem to do anything. I run it and it resets the phone but still can't run *228. it calls out but then the lady says unable to program your phone.

Also the ##778# command does not work either. It just tries to dial out.

I used the BuildOS and built a ROM for verizon 6.1 with GPS and it installs but still can't program my phone. I am getting the roaming icon on the screen and noficiations on incoming calls that I am roaming.

Since my phone still works it seems like this should be fixable. any other suggestions?

You might want to try to get Verizon to provision your device remotely, if it works then you saved hours of work, no?

puff 07-26-2008 02:22 AM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stemo76 (Post 361153)
I tried the dcd verizon cab and it didn't seem to do anything. I run it and it resets the phone but still can't run *228. it calls out but then the lady says unable to program your phone.

Also the ##778# command does not work either. It just tries to dial out.

I used the BuildOS and built a ROM for verizon 6.1 with GPS and it installs but still can't program my phone. I am getting the roaming icon on the screen and noficiations on incoming calls that I am roaming.

Since my phone still works it seems like this should be fixable. any other suggestions?

Not an expert on Verizon, but i think you might need a new Akey, just call tech support and tell 'em you hard reset and it stopped working
*edit* read more about Verizon/Akey in this thread here

here's just a few select quotes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickles (Post 320641)
my experience has been only when flashing a new RADIO, do i need to call for the new aKey... ROM flashes (like DCD, No2, etc.. ) you don't need to worry about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickles (Post 320678)
well..... somtimes the newer custom roms actually require the 3.35+ radio..
you should really up the radio.. the 3.27 was the 'leaked' radio, and by the time it because 'official', it was revved to 3.35.. (thank you to PPC_N00B for that nugget of info :) )
i seem to recall you had some difficulty with your last upgrade, maybe even had to swap out phones and whatnot.... if you are starting with a fresh device, i'd REALLY recommend you step it right up to the 3.35+ radio... then try a No2Chem rom.. GREAT combo !

OH ! and don't forget -- don't let the customizations run !!! :)

+ added since any radio above 3.35 will also work now

stemo76 07-28-2008 12:25 AM

Re: Sprint 3.56 Clean Upgrade!
 
Talked with Verizon for about 30 minutes and they are sending me a new phone. luckly it was under it warrentee period. Guess I need to research how I can put it back to stock programming.


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