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ericthegreat 04-04-2008 11:41 PM

Re: Linux / Android on Vogue (Titan?)
 
Yeah, I was trying it too. Any way of getting dcd's running 6.1 down to have 25mb free?

warlock 04-05-2008 03:33 AM

Re: Linux / Android on Vogue (Titan?)
 
I did just that(dcd 3.0.1), it actually doesnt need 25 MB, about 23 will suffice.
I closed what i could in the startup folder, turn off the today plugins.
Soft reset, use htc task manager to kill activesync, load up file explorer and click haret.

I get to the GoGoGo stage and the progress bar goes all the way, but then i get freeze (LEDs still work though...weird) I'm working on some other things to try to get it to boot. Then again, maybe if i had that extra 2MB of RAM it would go....bah.

EtherealRemnant 04-05-2008 03:38 AM

Re: Linux / Android on Vogue (Titan?)
 
Yeah I'm thinking it just doesn't have enough RAM.

In order for us to get this to run, we'll probably have to go back to WM5 on our devices... but since there is currently no way to downgrade once you have the GPS ROM without a nasty brick.....

tyante 04-05-2008 07:47 AM

Re: Linux / Android on Vogue (Titan?)
 
You should be able to go back to a pre GPS ROM. You'll need to relock your phone. You may also need an older bootloader. I would think you could get to 25 MB of free RAM with No2Chem's 5060 basekit with the ppckitchen. I just did a soft reset and get 21 MB free with a 4 MB page size, quickmenu, ms voice command, HTC Home plugin, and a Mort Script running.

NexVision 04-05-2008 01:15 PM

Re: Linux / Android on Vogue (Titan?)
 
Could easily get to 25 if thats whats needed.

EtherealRemnant 04-05-2008 01:19 PM

Re: Linux / Android on Vogue (Titan?)
 
There would be a huge performance sacrifice to get to 25 though.

I'll toy with making a "clean" ROM tonight.

And tyante - ImCoKeMaN has said not to try to downgrade from a GPS to pre-GPS ROM or an unrecoverable brick may result.

vetvito 04-05-2008 08:33 PM

Re: Linux / Android on Vogue (Titan?)
 
You can get 26mb free easily with my stock rom. This program however will gradually eat more ram.

jjlwork 04-06-2008 10:28 AM

Re: Linux / Android on Vogue (Titan?)
 
From reading this it looks like we are better off waiting for someone to figure out how to boot linux from directly from the bootloader (meaning without loading WM first) so that all the ram is available....I haven't read enough to even know if that is possible, but seems to me if Android is ever going to be usable on the Titan this would be a prerequisit.

warlock 04-06-2008 04:34 PM

Re: Linux / Android on Vogue (Titan?)
 
yeah. but it's still fun to play with. Like a "look what i got and you dont" to your friends.

puff 04-06-2008 05:10 PM

Re: Linux / Android on Vogue (Titan?)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EtherealRemnant (Post 241485)
ImCoKeMaN has said not to try to downgrade from a GPS to pre-GPS ROM or an unrecoverable brick may result.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImCoKeMaN (Post 239687)
The GPS radio is a new beast, it protects itself from overwriting. Before this rom we were free to go back to WM5 at any point (check my sig). The new GPS radio is highly dependent on the OS and SPL as well and not compatible with previous versions. This puts it in a inconsistent state when you try to revert and the radio protection keeps you from fully going back. Mine are in a black screen called download mode at the moment. If they become fixable there will be a post about it as soon as it's ready.

Then of course his sig says:

Quote:

WARNING: Using anything from Special_4350.nbh file can cause unrecoverable (at least as of now) bricking of devices (I have a dead mogul to prove it!) (Also: titan GPS radio on vogue = bad idea)

from -> http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=239687

Although his post refer'd to wM5 not WM6 non GPS and his sig has nothing to do with the post (as far as i can tell) when i responded that it was possible as per theory, i was met with a quick and harsh reply (also with no explaination)


Quote:

Originally Posted by ImCoKeMaN (Post 240014)
What i'm sayin is it's not possible, don't do it. <- PERIOD



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